I will answer here since im a guy and dont want to respect the idea of ask a womans room buy actually leaving it for women to answer. Do miracles still happen? Yes. My cousin was healed instantly from varicose veins and my aunties sight was healed from having to wear thick glasses to not needing to wear any. Do miracles happen every time someone gets prayed for? no, and im not God to be able to answer why that is though the bible does give some reasons why for some cases. But God does still do miracles and that is just 2 cases in one persons family imagine how many world wide. We serve a great and wonderful God and im greatful for all he has,is and will do both miraculously and not as he is perfect, all knowing, all powerful, never changing and lovingly intervenes according to his perfect will.
I appreciate your response to my challenge in regard to the modern day miracle question.
Admittedly, the problem of defining a biblical miracle arises. For example, ranges of meaning ad to the confusion of nailing down exactly what a miracle is because the range of meaning for the English word “miracle” differs somewhat from the Greek definition for the Greek word miracle. I can post more about this if you wish.
For the time being, I’ll say this. The examples you provided can easily be explained naturally. I need you to provide something consistent with a biblical miracle that can’t be explained in natural terms.
Biblical miracles, however, defy any such natural or normal sort of explanation.
Nonetheless, here’s a challenge for you. If you’re able to provide an example of any verifiable instantaneous BIBLICAL healing of, say, a quadriplegic or the raising of the dead, for example, I’m ready to give you a listen.
So when Jesus retored the sight of people it was not a miracle coz it wasnt a quadruped or dead raised to life? She had very bad eyesight for a long time with very thick glasses and after being prayed for she didnt need them any more. Call it what you want but that cant be explained naturally any more than when Christ retored sight.
MILKYBAR SAYS: So when Jesus retored the sight of people it was not a miracle coz it wasnt a quadruped or dead raised to life?
LD REPLIES: Your response is typical Charismaniac. Sorry you missed the operative word “example”. Let me state the obvious: Jesus MIRACULOUSLY and INSTANTANEOUSLY AND FULLY healed many blind people to nothing less than 20/20 vision‼️‼️
MILKYBAR SAYS: She had very bad eyesight for a long time with very thick glasses and after being prayed for she didnt need them any more. Call it what you want but that cant be explained naturally any more than when Christ retored sight.
LD REPLIES: Nothing you’ve stated points to anything more than a natural healing. Nevertheless, too many people think an unusual healing just HAS to be a biblical miracle‼️
In addition to that, the article you wanted me to check out did not prove, by any stretch of the imagination, a modern day “miraculous” healing. Yes, I checked the website seeking evidence leading to proof of the ever illusive modern day miracle like Jesus performed. But alas, just another dead end. Further study from the same source, merely equates prayer (Christian, Muslim or whatever) to any other placebo including sugar pills. You might want to check out the kinds of illnesses that are “healed” by placebo. You’ll be surprised.
The Bible never promise’s miraculous healings. But prayer can move in the providence of God even today. I advise you to take time to study the Bible more thoroughly. There’s a difference between the providence of God and God’s use of miracles.
Jesus said this in Mark 11:23: "For assuredly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, 'Be removed and be cast into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that those things he says will come to pass, he will have whatever he says."
LD, please define the word "whoever" by looking up the Greek definition and post it here please. And also do the same for the word "whatever" and post it here. Don't just copy and paste it. Write it down in your own words. I want you to type it out.
How can it be explained as natural healing when she had no surgery no medicine, the only thing different from any other day was she got prayed for and her sight was retored. It seem althoigh you say to the contrary that it doesnt matter what evidence is given that you will find a way to try and dismiss it.
There are a number of other cases i can state including one who died and came back to life in a morgue after being dead for 15-20min from multiple box jellyfish stings but i doubt it will make any difference so will leave it at that and will go our different paths regarding miracles.
Is God the same yesterday today and forever? Did he do miracles in both the old and new testaments. Did Jesus say these things and greater will you do in my name. That was not restricted to the 12 disciples as shown in Acts when Stephen , a deacon was performing miracles through the power of God among others.
To say that God cant or perhaps more accurately doesnt do miracles any more is in my view limiting God.
Anyway im not here to argue i just wanted to give some examples of miracles that i personally know of so you can believe God healed them or not, they know the truth and are tha kful to God for his healing power in their lives. This will be my last post on the subject.
You want to believe in your charisma charms so much that no amount of evidence to the contrary is going to convince you.
One of the most all time silly charismaniac sayings is how humans can “limit God”.
Actually the only god that can be limited is the charismatic god who can “heal only if you have enough faith” AND when he’s not limited by humans‼️🤣
And he heals ONLY 👉naturally👈 not SUPERNATURALLY like the real God who created all things in heaven and on earth‼️‼️
The real God healed many people who didn’t have “faith” (whatever faith means to a charismatic?) but also people who were complete unbelievers like those in Corisian and Betsaida‼️
In Matthew 11:21 , Jesus declares, "Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes." heals, he does it👉naturally👈 not SUPERNATURALLY like the real God who created heavens and earth and all things‼️‼️
The real God SUPERNATURALLY healed many people who didn’t have “faith” (whatever faith means to a charismatic) but also people who were complete unbelievers‼️‼️
In Matthew 11:21 , Jesus declares, "Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes."
Why don’t you do a search on natural healings and placebo healings. You’ll find many people today are healed of what amounts to psychosomatically induced illnesses. These can sometimes be reversed through placebo and or natural remedies. But ONLY Jesus can heal REAL organic physical damages such as a person born blind or a quadriplegic
Your example isn’t the first time someone “rose from the dead” after being pronounced👉clinically dead”👈
When those of you so fooled by charismania’s “miracles” can produce someone who was dead for at least 4 days like Lazarus then maybe people will believe you’ve really seen a miracle ‼️‼️
Silver, that’s easy. How came all your challenges are such easy calls. Why not throw me a hard ball for once⁉️😀
First, is there any biblical character who is known to have moved a mountain ⁉️
Second, Jesus garranteed through use of a hyperbolic example that IF it’s God will for someone to move mountains around it will be done ‼️ Sorry you missed the meaning of the example.
Your goalposts keep changing. First if was miracles, then it was quadraped or raised drom the dead, now its someone who has been dead for 4 days. Just confirms what i said about nothing convincing you. I m open to cases being healed naturally but am also open to believing that God has healed supernaturally when the evidence points too that. My goal posts have not changed, there are times when God knows we have medickne for that conditionand and will
allow the medical fraternity to help us heal, there are times when it could be supernatural or natural and there are cases where the evidence points to supernatural miracles. Just let the evidenve threshold be the same for today as it was for Christ. Your threshold for him was not dead for 4 days as you pointed out when you said he healed the blind man. So in the case of my auntie which is very similar to that of the blind man Jesus healed if we use the same criteria we can confidentky say God healed her.
However im not going to try and downplay your position by labels such as Charasmaniac.. You are welcome to differ and it is not a salvation issue so im sure there are far more important things to be concerned about.
For others rrading i appologise for posting again when i said i wouldnt.
May God bless you all and i pray that you never need a physical miracle but if you do i pray God will use whatever means necessary to make you whole again, whether natural or supernatural.
This man died in a car accident and was taken to a Reinhard Bonnke meeting where he came back to life. This man also came and visited many churches in the USA to give his testimony, and I personally saw and heard him talk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZP5Gq7-WYM
If you don't believe in miracles after seeing this, then you wouldn't believe Jesus himself either. And please speak kindly of Charismatic believers, because Jesus himself is a Charismatic Christian. All of the Apostles were Charismatic Christians.
