The Trinity, A Nice Piece of Fiction and Not Scriptural But Diabolical
Posted : 15 Mar, 2025 08:51 AM
Amen, 99.9% of Christianity believe in the Trinity, and some are die-hards. I am here to tell you the scripture that they based it on does not at all match the bible, as the Trinity is just Hollywood gospel when you do not receive the love of the truth 2nd Thess 2:10-12. Big deal people believe in God, and so does the devil James 2:19 where the Devils tremble at the sight of one God while mankind just perverts and does not tremble. The Trinity is based on vain deceit, lies, out-of-context scriptures, misconceptions and philosophy. The preacher is making believing you are holding onto God's hand when, in reality, you are holding onto the devil's hand. A Hollywood gospel that is diabolical and not scriptural.
The scriptures like John 1:1-2 for example, all past tense ((was)) as ((was)) is not ((is)) as John was not at all talking about God in these scriptures but something else, something different called The Word. God and his words are two separate things; we do not hold God in our hands. We hold his words as God is a spirit, a ghost John 4:23. No man could see God, not even Moses; only his Son Jesus Christ could see God his Father John 1:18. Trinity people are using out-of-context verses to support and believe lie and anybody who loves and makes a lie shall be cast into hell fire and brimstone Rev 22:15.
The Trinity people really need to give their heads a shake as they come up with two fictional people the bible does not talk about called God the Son and God the Holy Ghost. Two fictional characters who never spent a day on the earth and never died for my sin like Jesus Christ the Son of God did. Jesus never introduced us to a fictional character called God the Holy Ghost, as he does not exist. The Holy Ghost exists and not God the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost came down with words and not some funny doctrine that preached the opposite of what Jesus taught. God the Son and God the Holy Ghost are two demons from the pit of hell mankind has resurrected because they never received the love of the truth of Jesus Christ and his words in you Colossians 1:27. Jesus taught they that are in the grave shall hear the voice of the Son of God and they that hear will live John 5:25. If you're waiting to hear from God the Son and God the Holy Ghost, you will have to wait for the second resurrection of hellfire and brimstone the devil knows how to pull a fast one as he has the Christians bewitched and deceived through seduction by coming up with other voices mimicking God and Jesus 2nd Cor 11:11-15. Jesus said his sheep hear his voice, and all that ever come before are thieves and robbers. The Trinity is around to rob you out of your salvation. God only speaks through his Son Jesus, Hebrews 1:2 and the bible is the words of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. The Trinitarian denies Jesus's words, full of rebellion, the sin of witchcraft, 1st Samuel 15:23 and ready to make hell. Ask yourself, are you ready to make hell? Peter said people are ignorant and that by the word of God, 2nd Peter 3:4-5. Ignorant preachers from bible college are ready to preach for your pocketbook and not for the saving of the soul.
Jesus never once said he was God in the whatever. When you read the whole chapter or verse before and after the deceitful Trinitarian gospel is offering, it does not all say Jesus is God. Some scriptures sound like it, however, when you put them in context, it does not at all say Jesus was saying he was God in the whatever. Jesus always, like anybody else, had a God and Father in heaven, John 20:17. Jesus is a Son over his own household and not a Father Hebrews 3:6. God was not Superman to come in the flesh. He sent his Son Jesus Christ John 3:16.
Not one prophet ever said God was coming to mankind in the flesh. Most Christians like to pull out-of-context verses in Isaiah, such as Isaiah 9: 6, when Isaiah is not talking about the Almighty God and Father coming. Isaiah used the words the mighty God and not the Almighty God and Father as he needed no glorifying so there was no point for him to come as nobody would be able to see him and tell about it and live. Jesus said this in John 5:33-47. Paul called God the invisible God Colossians 1:15 as nobody can see him save his Son Jesus, who is on his right-hand side. Acts 7:55-56 Stephen sure did not see a Trinity. He saw a trio, not a Trinity. That is why Christianity is looking for new Bibles because it does not sit well with their perverted doctrines of devils and seducing spirits called the Trinity gospel, to say, the invisible God.
Jesus never said "I AM" in the bible he said "I am" "I AM" is God the Father "I am" is the Son of God Jesus Christ and God the Son and God the Holy Ghost are "I am not" Christians try to their w their garbage at me when they should take an English language course between a Father vs a Son and study past tenses ((was)) sinn((ed)) and singular vs plural ((us)) & ((our)) vs ((me)) & ((I))Genesis 1:26 as God was always talking to somebody and it was not Lucifer but to his Son Jesus.
One person on here was using John 8 out of context. He could not read or understand what Jesus was talking about because he was seduced by his church, the synagogue of Satin, to think Jesus was God coming up with a Trinity. He thought he was trying to seduce me when he was only fooling himself. John 8:17 Jesus talked about the testimony of two m((en)) and not one m((an)) is true He has all the scriptures every Trinitarian uses out of context like John 8:58 when Jesus said, "Before Abraham was I am" Jesus never said "Before Abraham was I AM" especially when verse 54 onwards when Jesus said his honour is nothing if he honours himself as it was God the Father who honours me ((his Son)) and not himself. I hate to see that guy read a 10-page letter as he only reads page 7, the second sentence, and thinks it is the say-all and end-all of the letter. The Bible is made up of letters. If Trinitarians only read the whole letter or chapter rather than pick and choose like a Smorgesborg gospel what they believe and don't believe, they would hang up their doctrine for sure and come my way instead of going full speed into hell fire and brimstone.
Unless you come out from among them 2nd Cor 6:13-18 and 2nd Cor 7:1. They will never know who Jesus is but the god of this world who is around to blind their minds. Blind leaders leading the blind from sports, infant baptisms, idols, camps, Sunday school, perverted books, theology, philosophy, Trinity, vain deceit, vain words, etc. all adding to the bible words ave when you add or take away John said it in Revelations 22:18-19 he will add the plages that are written in this book and cut you out of the new Jerusalem which comes from above. Adding plagues COVID, diseases, and all kinds of sickness because mankind wants to continue in their sin as all sin is of the devil period 1st John 3:8. There is No such verse in the bible as you sin because you're of God or Jesus. The wages of sin are death, hell, fire, and brimstone Romans 6:23 and not love. I am an ex-sinner saved by grace an ex-sinner is a righteous person Romans 6:18. Paul preached such were some of you and not such are some of you 1st Cor 6:9-11. I agree the churches cannot leave sin alone because they are of the devil and Jesus preached in John5:14 Go and sin no more. Why burn? Why go to hell on the account of your sin?
The Trinity, A Nice Piece of Fiction and Not Scriptural But Diabolical
Posted : 15 Mar, 2025 09:14 AM
GOC, you continue to overlook the obvious. you’re still trying to convince yourself the Trinity doesn’t exist. That doesn’t seem to be working out too well.
You’re just like these modern day charismaniacs who just can’t accept reality.
You publish a lengthy monologue to repeat back to yourself hoping that this time you will finally believe yourself.
It would seem that you are in conflict with the obvious.
You’re not the only one experiencing turbulence over realities you don’t understand. But simply denying those perplexing realities is not the answer either
The Trinity, A Nice Piece of Fiction and Not Scriptural But Diabolical
Posted : 15 Mar, 2025 10:52 AM
💯💯 bro David
👨⚖️ if I had to go to court to defend the Trinity I would use the economic Trinity as my pro argument for defense
the Economic Trinity deals with how the three persons in the Godhead relate to each other and the world. Each has different roles within the Godhead and each has different roles in relationship to the world (some roles overlap). The Father-and-Son is an inter-trinitarian relationship since it is eternal (more on this below). The Father sent the Son 1 John 4:10 the Son came down from heaven not to do his own will but the will of the Father John 6:38. For a single verse that shows differences in roles, see 1 Pet. 1:2, “According to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, that you may obey Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with His blood,” You can see that the Father foreknows. The Son became man and sacrificed himself. The Holy Spirit sanctifies the church. That is simple enough, but before we discuss this further, let’s look at some of the verses that support the difference of roles among the three persons of the Trinity.
The Father sent the Son. The Son did not send the Father (John 6:44; 8:18; 10:36; 1 John 4:14)
John 5:37, “And the Father who sent Me, He has borne witness of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.”
Jesus came down from heaven, not to do his own will, but the will of the Father.
John 6:38, “For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.”
Jesus performed the redemptive work. The Father did not.
2 Cor. 5:21, “He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.”
1 Pet. 2:24, “and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed.”
Jesus is the only-begotten. The Father is not.
John 3:16, “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life.”
The Father gave the Son. The Son did not give the Father or the Holy Spirit.
John 3:16, “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life.”
The Father and the Son send the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit does not send the Father and the Son.
John 14:26, “But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things…”
John 15:26, “When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father…”
The Father has given the elect to the Son. Scripture does not say that the Father gave the elect to the Holy Spirit.
John 6:39, “And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day.”
The Father chose us before the foundation of the world. No indication that the Son or the Holy Spirit chose us.
Eph. 1:4, “just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before Him…”
The Father predestined us to adoption according to the intention of his will. This is not said of the Son or the Holy Spirit.
Eph. 1:5, “He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will.”
We have redemption through Jesus’ blood, not the blood of the Father or the Holy Spirit.
Eph. 1:7, “In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace.”
💡💡💡💡💡💡💡💡🕊️So Let’s summarize. We can see that the Father sent the Son (John 6:44; 8:18). The Son came down from heaven not to do his own will (John 6:38). The Father gave the Son (John 3:16), who is the only begotten (John 3:16), to perform the redemptive work (2 Cor. 5:21; 1 Pet. 2:24). The Father and Son sent the Holy Spirit. The Father, who chose us before the foundation of the world (Eph. 1:4), predestined us (Eph. 1:5; Rom. 8:29), and gave the elect to the Son (John 6:39).
The Trinity, A Nice Piece of Fiction and Not Scriptural But Diabolical
Posted : 15 Mar, 2025 04:00 PM
I will agree with Little David that the Trinity is found in the Bible in Acts 17:14-18. However, Paul had to cast the Trinity demon out of her as she was preaching about God and not Jesus Christ, the Son of God. When your demon is possessed, you will come up with all kinds of gospels that don't make any sense whatsoever. Look at all the churches. One believes this and, and the other believes that way because they have a strong delusion to believe a lie because they are cursed to hell with false teachings false gospels. I never said they never received the truth; all churches believe they have the truth, and what they never received is the love of the truth. I guess it is better to go to hell in peace than to go to heaven troubled. The only time Christians are troubled is Christmas time, the lineup at customer service, not the right tie, not the right colour, not the right size or style, etc. They are troubled. When it comes to the Gospel, they have no trouble going to church with no bible, a big smile on their face and dressed up like the real thing. They look godly and yet they are as white sepulchres Matthew 23:27-28. They look nice on the outside, but inside they are full of dead man's bones and hypocrisies. Nobody is being persecuted going to church so long as you don't read your bible and know more than the preacher during the other days of the week; just follow their programs telling you what to read or what to do every day of the week. Follow their 90-day bible course or 1-year course, etc. I have been in the bible for 30 years, and I never read it. I am still reading it. Nobody gets persecuted for having an Easter Bunny or eggs or celebrating the resurrection all from Rome and not out of the mouth of God. Nobody is persecuted for having Sunday school church. I am persecuted for preaching and living the life of the Gospel.
Homeless Christian, you're not even close. Genesis 1:1: God created things. How? He is not carnal, he does not have two hands like you, and I do; he just speaks words, and things get done like Psalms 107:20. God just spoke words, and things happened. Mary got pregnant by God speaking works Luke 8:11. God never came into the womb of Mary. That is the teaching of Rome and not the bible. God will never leave his throne for any reason except to sound his trumpet in the last days 1st Thess 4:16. God was not Superman to come in the flesh as he never will take in the form of corruptible man Romans 1:21-23 God never walked on the face of the earth in the New Testament like he did in the old because his Son was. The devil makes no sense to say God came in the flesh when Romans 1 tells me differently. The Son of Jesus Christ came in the likeness of sinful flesh; he ate, drank, felt pain, etc. Jesus came in the likeness of a corruptible man, but he wasn't corrupted. He knew where he was from, Luke 2:49 and he knew he had a God and Father in heaven waiting for him Galatians 4:4-5. Basically your making something from nothing that does not exist the Trinity.
The Trinity, A Nice Piece of Fiction and Not Scriptural But Diabolical
Posted : 15 Mar, 2025 06:50 PM
Ok, how did anything you posted this time move your argument forward⁉️
Once again you said nothing that actually proved you know what you’re talking about or that you know how to properly interpret scripture. All you’ve shared is you own uninformed opinion that you probably don’t believe anyway.
There’s no need for you to start lashing out in anger at those who keep showing how your denials of the obvious is what has led to your false claims.
The Trinity, A Nice Piece of Fiction and Not Scriptural But Diabolical
Posted : 15 Mar, 2025 08:07 PM
Oh, this is an easy one!
Have you ever read Genesis 1.1? "God created the heavens and the earth." The
word for God in Hebrew is elohim, which is plural. And that's not by accident.
It could have been written as "EL" singular without the HIM suffix. But that's
not how it was written! Okay. So, that's one clue.
Later God refers to Himself as "I AM" and Yahweh. It's interesting that we get
a little bit of confusing words in John 1:1 where Jesus is called the Word of
God and He is called God at the same time. In Proverbs 8, wisdom is described
as a person who was present at Creation and was delighted at God's design. Then
chapter 8 closes with saying, "he who sins against me wrongs his own soul; all
those who hate me love death." This is talking about the same person, wisdom
personified. But I would propose that here he is talking about Jesus. But
that's just my opinion. I think, just like Jesus is called the Word of God, we
could also call Jesus the wisdom of God just like Paul did in 1 Cor 1:24. This
distinction further separates Jesus from God:
Proverbs 8:29-31: "When He assigned to the sea its limit, so that the waters
would not transgress His command, when He marked out the foundations of the
earth, then I was BESIDE HIM as a master craftsman; and I was daily His
delight, rejoicing always before Him, rejoicing in His inhabited world, and my
delight was with the sons of men."
Clearly, Proverbs 8 is not talking about God. It's talking about a second
person who was present at Creation and was BESIDE HIM. So, it's not the same
person!
Okay. Let's move on...
Philippians 2:8-10 says, "And being found in appearance as a man, He [Jesus]
humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of
the cross. Therefore God [the Father] also has highly exalted Him [Jesus] and
given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every
knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under
the earth." Isn't it not clear from this text that there are two deities
mentioned here? News flash: God is not alone. He has a Son!
Then in Revelation 3:21 Jesus says, "To him who overcomes I will grant to sit
with Me on My throne as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His
throne." Isn't it clear from this Scripture that it's talking about TWO
thrones? Jesus has a throne and the Father has a throne. The two aren't the
same thrones. But it says that Jesus will sit in the same throne as God with
Him, and we [people] to whom Jesus is talking will sit on Jesus' throne. So,
there will be two thrones. I know, it's hard to picture two people sitting in
the same throne. But it's even harder to picture a multitude of Christians
sitting on Jesus' throne in one seat. This could be symbolic or literal. We
don't know. If it's symbolic, then it may mean that we will have the same
authority as Jesus, and Jesus will take on the authority of God. Btw I don't
think we're ready for this at all, because as long as we're divided over minor
things like the Trinity, we're not ready to rule and reign over the world in
Jesus' throne. But that's just a thought.
Trinity exists, because Jesus Christ came to earth. He prayed to His Father. He said he only says things that He heard from the Father. That proves that He has a father. He also said that there are certain things that only the Father knows and He [Jesus] doesn't...i.e. the time of His return. Only the Father knows when that will be. That means the brain of God the Father and Jesus the Son are separate. Not the same person.
Okay, secondly, the Holy Spirit's deity is mentioned where the Pharisees say
that Jesus is casting out demons by the Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons.
Then Jesus said, Wait a minute. You know what you just did? Anyone who
blasphemes the Son can be forgiven. It doesn't say that it is automatically forgiven or that it is not a sin to blaspheme the name of Jesus. It just says that it is forgivable. But anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit is unforgivable. In other words, that person loses his salvation forever. It doesn't matter what kind of prayers he says after that point. No forgiveness.
That is shocking. Why? Because it underlines the importance of the Holy Spirit. He is not just equal with Jesus. He is higher. Much higher. So, if you believe in Jesus, you should believe in the Holy Spirit a lot more. Denying the Holy Spirit's existence or his deity is almost like claiming that police doesn't exist. A person who denies the Trinity either does not believe that the Holy Spirit exists at all OR believes that the Holy Spirit is the same as Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ is the same person as God. It's like claiming that the police department, the fire department, and the emergency workers who drive the emergency vehicles are all the same. No, they are not the same! Yes, if you see them flashing their lights red lights, blue lights and white lights, you need to yield to them and let them go. They all of them can drive through red lights. The police can direct traffic. The fire dept can block roads, they can break into houses which are burning. When you call 911, often all three departments come to the rescue. But they are separate departments, not the same! And it's wrong to emphatically deny the division these departments. You shouldn't do that. It's okay to be ignorant and not understand how these departments work, but it's not okay to purposely spread false information about them.
"The Trinity is based on vain deceit, lies, out-of-context scriptures,
misconceptions and philosophy. The preacher is making believing you are holding
onto God's hand when, in reality, you are holding onto the devil's hand. A
Hollywood gospel that is diabolical and not scriptural."
See, that's a perfect example of what is not okay. You're in red zone. You are not only believing false information, but you're spreading it and condemning those who believe rightly. You're very wrong. And you're doing it with confidence and pride, which is a sin in itself.
Back to Beelzebub. Here were the Pharisees full of rage, and they just wanted to provoke Jesus. They were trying to say something blasphemous to get a reaction from Jesus, because they were so angry at him. But they went a little bit too far, because they said Jesus is doing these miracles by Beelzebub, the ruler of demons. In other words, they weren't accusing Jesus this time. They were accusing the spirit by which he was doing the miracles. Now, that would not have been a problem if the Holy Spirit didn't exist. But HE does exist, and ignoring this person or speaking blasphemy about someone you think doesn't exist might land you in hell forever.
Jude 1 talks about this... "Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" But these speak evil of whatever they do not know; and whatever they know naturally, like brute beasts, in these things they corrupt themselves. Woe to them..."
Don't let Jude's writing refer to you.
I'll tell you a little story. I was working at a Christian ministry one time, and I had a co-worker who occasionally came in drunk. Every time he was drunk, he got fired. But eventually, they always had mercy on him and hired him back. He was back and forth, back and forth. When he was fired, I was happy. I thought, "Finally! They got rid of this guy!" But then a few days later, he was back! And he always came back. And even when he was sober, he always created a huge mess in the office and was mumbling to himself. He was weird. But one day the president and founder of the ministry came into the room where we were, and he was talking with the managers. This guy was completely oblivious to the fact that we had the president in the room, and he was standing just a few feet behind the president talk bad stuff ABOUT HIM. As soon as the president heard what this guy was saying, he turned around and said, "You are fired! And you may never set foot in this ministry again!" So, he took his stuff and left, and he was never allowed back. Now, this ministry was a soup kitchen for homeless, and this dude was very poor, but he wasn't even allowed to come back to eat anymore. So, he was completely booted out once and for all. And that made me think about the highness of the Holy Spirit. When Jesus said you can say bad stuff about me and it's forgivable, but you can't say bad stuff about the Holy Spirit, I imagine the Holy Spirit as the Founder of Grace and Salvation. God is the God of Justice. If we had no sin, we wouldn't need salvation. But we do have sin, therefore we need salvation. Jesus had to die as a sacrifice to take our punishment. And our salvation works only because of His sacrifice. We have to accept it and come into relationship with Jesus, with God the Father, and with the Holy Spirit. First of all, we have to be humble. We have to acknowledge our sins. We have to repent. We have to be thankful for salvation. The Holy Spirit is the One who came up with the entire salvation idea. If you insult him, he may decide that you can never receive salvation.
It's one thing to be ignorant or think you have it right when you're wrong and say "I don't know if Holy Spirit exists or not. Maybe not. I only believe in God. He is the big guy."
But when someone is strongly confident in his false doctrine that's when things are not looking great. So, if you combine foolishness with humility, it's okay. But when you combine foolishness with pride, you got a problem.
"A proud and haughty man--'Scoffer' is his name; he acts with arrogant pride."
The Trinity, A Nice Piece of Fiction and Not Scriptural But Diabolical
Posted : 15 Mar, 2025 08:28 PM
Sorry for all the blank lines in my text. I edited this text in Notepad and then pasted it in here, not realizing that it's going to add all these empty lines. Sigh. Anyway, I'm just reading all the other responses to this topic, and I see that I'm not alone here trying to defend the Trinity. Again, I would like to reiterate the problem isn's ignorance. It's one thing to run a red light and then apologize when you get caught. It's quite another thing to try to convince the cop that red light actually means GO, and green means stop. Being confident in foolishness is not a working strategy. lol
The Trinity, A Nice Piece of Fiction and Not Scriptural But Diabolical
Posted : 15 Mar, 2025 10:29 PM
There are lots of nice philosophy and out-of-context verses, as the word diety is not in my bible, not in the Gospel of Christ. Diety came from Rome and not out of the mouth of God just like the Trinity. The Holy Ghost existed long before Jesus walked the face of the earth Psalm 51:11 but was limited to certain people like the prophets of old, unlike today, where it is available to everybody who opens up the words of the Gospel of Christ.
Psalm 51:11] Cast me not away from thy presence, and take not thy holy spirit from me.
My Bible is written in English. That is all I know and understand. If I was looking to translate the bible into Hebrew and Greek, then I would need to know what it means. Because the bible has been translated from the Hebrew and Greek I am no longer a Greek and Hebrew under sin looking for signs or wonders 1st Cor 1:22. How much Greek and Hebrew does one need to tell people God is a killer? Not very much!!! As my Bible was translated diligently which means over and over until they got it right. These were no Franklin Graham's bible school philosophers who were translating the bible into English or Elymus the sorcerer's bible school scholars translating the bible. These were Holy men of God who had the Holy Ghost in them 2nd Peter 1:21. The problem is we are too busy retranslating something that has already been translated. God gives people a strong delusion to believe a lie to be condemned to hell with ((can't say the proper word this site blocks it)) because mankind has pleasure in unrighteousness. Proud knowing nothing, preachers who do not consent to the Gospel of Christ's words need lots of Greek and Hebrew to condemn themselves to hell while looking for their pocketbooks.
The Holy Bible, Containing the Old and New Testaments: Translated Out of the Original Tongues; and with the Former Translations Diligently Compared and Revised, by His Majesty's Special Command
You mentioned Proverbs 8, and that is a very bad teaching of it. If I had heard a bad teaching in the past, yours takes the cake all these years, I have been saved. The Bible mentions in Job 1:6 or Job 38:7 and in Genesis about the sons of God and other places in the bible. Who were they? That was us before we came to earth. When you read Proverbs 8:22-31 Solomon uses the words me and I as he is using himself as an example of who we were from day one as we all came from heaven at one time as we all have a soul. The only problem is the corruption and the deceitfulness of sin that we get immersed in from day one turns God into a killing mood unless we turn around as heaven is our home, however, for lots of people the other h will be their home as mankind are not interested in turning away from their sin as they prefer to pervert as opposed to repent. Paul confirmed this in Ephesians 1:4 that we should live Holy since the foundation of the world. I was known in Christ before the world was created.
Proverbs 8:22] The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
[23] I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
[24] When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
[25] Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
[26] While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
[27] When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
[28] When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
[29] When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
[30] Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
[31] Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
Ephesians 1:[4] According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
[5] Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
[6] To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
Another point you mentioned was that I had pride; yes, I do bible pride, the same as Paul as he boasted of his epistles. You think that I am bad waiting until Jesus Christ, the Son of God, comes; he is going to judge the world with the sword of his tongue and not by stories. Jesus is worse than me if he were here right now, he would carry a shotgun into the churches, seeing how filthy and corrupt they are right now. The church bizarre and Sunday school pamphlets and bingo nights, worshipping of Mary, idols, church camps, infant baptisms, perverted books, holidays that are not scriptural but diabolical etc. I would help him. If Paul were alive, he would have had a heart attack for sure, seeing how far off the church has gone since they removed the engrafted word of God, the Gospel of Christ, the King James Bible, and replaced it with a superfluity of naughtiness James 1:21. Paul would want to go back to his grave seeing all the delusions mankind has called denominations and ideas and traditions of men that do not match Paul's writings. Paul would for sure would want to go back to his grave seeing the Trinity and all these funny doctrines which he called doctrines of devils and seducing spirits. The Trinity is a seducing spirit from the pit of hell. I have no word or examples in the bible. Stephen in Acts 7 never seen a Trinity when he looked up into heaven or came up with such philosophy and vain deceit on his last breath before Paul was going to stone him.
The Trinity is just a perverted Superman gospel, like the line in Superman a Hollywood gospel (The Father becomes the Son and the Son becomes the Father) a perverted Superman gospel.
