Author	Thread: Crucifixion
Tulip89 View Profile History	Crucifixion Posted : 22 Apr, 2011 01:16 AM Is it just me, or does it seem ridiculous to you that after being flogged 39 times and nailed to a cross, a person would die of suffocation? I mean, I can understand it happening to someone who was crucified by being tied to the cross or maybe even just nailed, but someone who had just received 39 lashes too? Blood loss and shock or even a ruptured ventricular aneurysm as a result of the beating seems far more likely to me. After all, supposedly when they finished their 39 lashes, you could see the man's bowels and lungs since most all of their skin and muscle had been torn away... Post Reply
View Profile History	Crucifixion Posted : 22 Apr, 2011 04:22 AM Yes, I agree; the medical cause of Jesus's death was probably His heart bursting. Which seems right in more ways than one. Especially since they would break the legs of those not dead yet so they would suffocate, Jesus had already died. Anyway, very sobering post appropriate for today, thankyou. Post Reply
View Profile History	Crucifixion Posted : 22 Apr, 2011 04:41 AM Jesus said no one takes me life but I give it. When he breathed His last, I have always just thought regardless of the physical damamge, He 'gave up' His Spirit and His Father recieved it. Post Reply
bcpianogal View Profile History	Crucifixion Posted : 22 Apr, 2011 07:44 AM I have often thought the same thing. I did hear someone say (I think it was a preacher, or historian...dunno) that the Romans had crucifixion perfected to the point of causing as much suffering as possible for as long as possible before death. With the lashes, they knew exactly how many times, how hard, and where to hit so that the suffering was as much as a human could withstand without actually dying on the spot. Then, they knew just exactly how to nail a person to a cross so that they wouldn't die from the nails, but rather from suffocation. Anyway, I don't know how much of that is true, or how much was that person's speculation. But it's certainly a sobering thought, and a good one for Good Friday. Post Reply
Tulip89 View Profile History	Crucifixion Posted : 22 Apr, 2011 07:59 AM Well, I've been doing a little research, and it appears that there was a skeleton found with a nail through the side of the ankle and not the foot itself. This would not only put the nail right through a major nerve bundle, but also give the body enough support to put the nails through the hands like traditionally was assumed. Incidentally, there's supposedly a nerve bundle in the palm as well. This would be unimaginably painful, as I'm sure you guessed. Also, this article's pretty interesting: http://legacy.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/070406/jesus.shtml Post Reply
View Profile History	Crucifixion Posted : 22 Apr, 2011 12:10 PM My thoughts mirror babygirls. He bowed his head and 'gave up the ghost'. _______________________ Thanks Tulip. Great topic for today! Post Reply
View Profile History	Crucifixion Posted : 22 Apr, 2011 01:09 PM Reading this almost brought me to tears, thank you, definitely put things into perspective, and I agree with babygirl and chevy. Post Reply
View Profile History	Crucifixion Posted : 23 Apr, 2011 11:33 AM Yes!I had been thinking about this all yesterday evening before I had come across this thread! Thank all for you for your comments! :glow: Post Reply
Princekermit View Profile History	Crucifixion Posted : 25 Apr, 2011 08:20 PM Hey Tullip.. and others... A really eye opening examination/discussion/sermon of Jesus and what the crucifixion on the cross was like. And details that method of execution. The video can be found here: http://www.marshillchurch.org/media/doctrine/cross-god-dies He mentions that a number of men didn't survive the scourging before the cross. This was a very eye opening, and heart breaking subject, not at all for the weak. I learned a lot, including the fact that, (I didn't know) that 6,000 followers of the christian named Spartacus, were crucified in a single day, along a stretch of roughly 120 miles. Post Reply
View Profile History	Crucifixion Posted : 25 Apr, 2011 10:08 PM Well shock is a process, and Jesus showed the symptoms (he was thirsty) But I can see dying of suffocation more likely. You're more likely to still have enough blood to live, but too little to continue lifting and dropping yourself to breath for long. I think the point of the 39 lashes (besides torturing) would be to weaken the person so much that it was everything they could do to breath. Post Reply