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Posted : 15 Mar, 2011 08:46 AM

So I'm reading Dave Barry's book Complete Guide To Guys and its cracking me up :ROFL:

I have a question though. People always say that guys really don't know what girls are thinking or trying to express. I've heard this alot from different articles by psychologists, and marriage counselors. Guys and girls are in different universes I'm told.

But I wonder... I've met some guys who seem to know me better than I know myself... I've met some men who said they couldn't read me at all...and some men say I was like a ziplock bag, I keep everything in but you could see right through me!!! Agh!!

Anyway, this really isn't that important, but since I'm reading this book on how guys just don't have a clue... I thought to ask them and find out for myself.

Hope you have a nice day!! :D God bless!

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Posted : 15 Mar, 2011 09:02 AM

Personally, I believe that guys being clueless is just exaggerated for comedic effect. Men and women do have different styles of communication, so if there's a breakdown of communication, the guy may seem clueless. How well a guy is able to understand a woman is going to be different for each guy and each girl.

Then again, some guys know what the girl is getting at, but refuse to play along in order to force her to use her words instead of hints.

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Posted : 15 Mar, 2011 09:11 AM

good point.

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Posted : 15 Mar, 2011 12:14 PM

Probably the best quote I've ever heard about the communication breakdown is from the US version of "The Office" where Kelly says, "Darryl Philbin is the most complicated man that I have ever met. I mean who says exactly what they're thinking?"

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Posted : 17 Mar, 2011 07:21 AM

Ha Tulip, cute quote! Reminds me of a dialog I read about communication breakdowns:



Elaine, without really thinking says: �Do you realize that as of tonight, we�ve been seeing each other for six months?"

Roger says nothing.

Elaine thinks: I wonder if it bothers him that I said that. Maybe he feels confined by our relationship�

Roger is thinking: Gosh, six months. �so that means it was February when we started going out, which was right after I had the car at the dealer�s�which means I am way overdue on an oil change.

Elaine is thinking: He�s upset. I can see it on his face. Maybe he has sensed, even before I sensed, that I was feeling some reservations.

Roger thinks: I�m gonna have them look at the transmission again�its still not shifting right �and they better not blame it on the cold weather this time. It�s eighty-seven degrees out and this thing is shifting like a garbage truck.

Elaine thinks: He�s angry, and I don�t blame him. I feel so guilty, but I�m just not sure.

Roger is thinking: They�ll probably say its only a ninety day warranty�

Elaine is thinking: Maybe I�m just too idealistic, waiting for my knight to come riding up on his white horse.

Elaine says: �Roger�

Roger: �What�

Elaine: �Please don�t torture yourself like this. I know there�s no knight and there�s no horse.�

Roger: �There�s no horse?�

Elaine: �You think I�m a fool don�t you?�

Roger: �No!� (Glad to finally have the right answer)

Elaine: �It�s just that�I need some time.

Roger: �Yes.�



The conversation goes on�and on� I thought it was funny yet true. I�m not exactly sure who the author of that dialog is. All I know is that someone�s committing plagiarism because I found it in a few different articles unreferenced.

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Posted : 17 Mar, 2011 10:11 AM

I don't reallly think there is a big difference. In fact, if there is any noticeable difference at all, it's probably due to society raising boys different than girls, instead of raising them alll simply like humans. I do just fine.

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Posted : 17 Mar, 2011 10:20 AM

One of the hardest things to do is learn to think outside of your own reality so you can figure out what's actually going on with the other person.

I think the biggest one that confuses men is why women so rarely develop feelings for their close friends. From our perspective, we do stuff together, we have common interests, and we enjoy our time together, so how could she NOT develop feelings for us? The idea that women form romantic attachment completely differently is a completely alien concept, and even if we begin to get it, it's so far outside our realm of understanding, we hardly ever know what to do with it.

To top it off, women (well, people in general) aren't usually self aware enough to know what really works on them or effective enough communicators to know how to communicate in a way that a guy would understand. So now we're back to square one, and guys still think women are crazy, and women still think we're dumb.

When you find another woman who understands how to communicate with men, listen to her! Hahaha

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Posted : 17 Mar, 2011 05:28 PM

Tulip, I personally find it hard to be with be romantically involve with my boyfriends who were interested in me since I never felt any chemistry for them. I've had few cases about this one and no matter how hard I tried to work it out, there was no spark at all. All I felt was out with my brothers or friends, nothing more.



And I totally agree with that communication between men and women wow feels like believing men are from Mars and women are from Venus! :ROFL:

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Posted : 17 Mar, 2011 07:57 PM

JesusLoves, I'm actually completely onboard with you. I just think it's tough for a lot of guys to understand.

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Posted : 19 Mar, 2011 10:32 PM

Tulip, I think you're very intuitive :) ...for a guy. :) guys can be intuitive too, and I think what you said about learning to see past your personal frame of reference into another's is real key.

You mentioned that you don't understand why a girl may never fall in love with her best friend. :) I can't speak for all women, but I can speak for myself.

What I share with best friends are often intellectual and social compatibility. We have that, but because there is no emotional compatibility, then all the physical attraction in the world or all the other stuff won't be able to take the place of emotional compatibility or that thing that is or isn't there.

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Posted : 20 Mar, 2011 08:52 AM

Did it really sound like I was talking about me, personally? Hmmm...maybe I need to go back to the drawing board on this communication thing, because I was just trying to talk about guys in general. I completely understand where both of you are coming from. The irony of our conversation material surrounding my miscommunication is not lost on me...

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