Author	Thread: Women struggling with Submission
Admin	Women struggling with Submission Posted : 16 Nov, 2010 06:40 PM I have seen two topic posts in as many days asking women if they would cut or not cut their hair if their husband wanted them to. Oh such array of answers! Are we not to submit to one another? OK men it is your turn : Would you shave or grow a mustache or beard if your wife asked you to? Come on men, we need to lead by example and here is a our chance! Post Reply
View Profile History	Women struggling with Submission Posted : 16 Nov, 2010 07:15 PM no, all that stuff should be worked out before marriage. if person all of sudden changes how they like their spouse to look, then bigger issues at hand. Post Reply
View Profile History	Women struggling with Submission Posted : 16 Nov, 2010 07:53 PM I believe that submission is somewhat misunderstood. I believe that it is all under the understanding that your spouse's body is to be treated as if it were your own. As for changing yourself to please your spouse...that would depend on whether it would make you a better person. Me personally. I would need a lot of convincing that it was not just some vain whim and I would ask why this was not brought up why we were dating? It is as someone has pointed out "a slippery slope" once you start asking or making changes to oneself. Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	Women struggling with Submission Posted : 16 Nov, 2010 09:03 PM If I knew my wife had a preference for something, I wouldn't change it, and if I knew she had a desire for me to change something, I would as long as it doesn't conflict with my conscience. I have a duty to God first, in everything. And besides, in a loving relationship, who doesn't want to please their spouse? Shouldn't it be fun? Seems like the only possible reason it wouldn't be is if you want to please yourself more....or if he/she wants you to do something really ridiculous, lol. But if he/she loves you, hopefully they won't force you. It's a two way selfless street. Don't force anything, let REAL love lead the way. :peace::peace: Post Reply
Tulip89 View Profile History	Women struggling with Submission Posted : 16 Nov, 2010 09:40 PM I would give it a try, but I'm not exactly known for my ability to grow facial hair. Post Reply
View Profile History	Women struggling with Submission Posted : 17 Nov, 2010 06:38 AM Well, so far women seem to love and prefer me to have the mustache and sideburns I've had since my 20-something years in the 1970s, so I have never had this requested of me ... if it was, I would want to know too BEFORE getting married and THEN finding out the gal didn't really like me with a mustache ... THAT would be WEIRD and not from God's presence in her heart, I would think and make me wonder about her love for me. Steve Post Reply
rainbowian View Profile History	Women struggling with Submission Posted : 17 Nov, 2010 10:26 AM Yes I would. Post Reply
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DEEDEE72 View Profile History	Women struggling with Submission Posted : 18 Nov, 2010 04:38 AM I personally do not think asking my husband to grow a beard shows that we have issues in the relationship. If I had never seen him with facial hair and we went camping for a few days and I saw his 5 o'clock shadow and asked him to grow it out to see how it would look and after it had grown out I told him I liked his beard. It is no big deal.. The problem comes in when the person seems to always find fault with you. Not liking an outfit here and there ok. Not liking a particular hair style ok. But if you have ever dated a person who seems to have issues with everything about you that is the problem. They met you wearing make-up and all of a sudden do not want you to. Do not want you to wear anything that is flattering to your body (basically a potato sack). They is an insecure person who knows they are not doing what they are supposed to in the relatioship and instead of spending their energy being a better mate thay have decided to make their spouse look bad so no one else would want them.. Post Reply
marikashome View Profile History	Women struggling with Submission Posted : 18 Nov, 2010 07:23 AM I'm not so sure that "submission" could be defined by wearing your hair or clothes a certain way. Submission is an attitude, preferring the other person above oneself perhaps, but not generally in clothing choices or personal matters. A woman might wear something or do her hair a certain way to please someone, but generally it's because she wants to be attractive to him, not necessarily because she's submitted to him. Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	Women struggling with Submission Posted : 18 Nov, 2010 11:13 AM That's kinda what it means though. You both submit your will to each other. With the stipulation that "God is first", he makes his life about you as much as possible, and you make yours about him as much as possible. If you both really love each other, it makes this beautiful mix of love/submission. You both are doing things just to make the other happy instead of yourself, even though you'll probably be pretty happy making them happy since you love them, and the other person will be doing the things for you that you would have done for yourself anyway. It's basically the "christian" model plus communication/intimacy. "Do unto others, as you would have them do to you". You put yourself last and the other first, and the other will put you first and themselves last. Just make sure you find a good "other":laugh:. Marriage is the one relationship that should progress to the point where the golden rule should work %100 of the time. I think it's supposed to be a witness of it to the world. A "model" relationship that will hopefully spread into how you treat everybody. :peace::peace: Post Reply

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