Author	Thread: Are men really naive when it comes to women??
Christinia2 View Profile History	Are men really naive when it comes to women?? Posted : 16 Sep, 2010 12:48 AM Hey guys, here is a ?? for you.............Are guys really naive when it come to women and love?? I was having a conversation with a good male friend of mine tonight and he said he guess he was just naive about his girlfriend. It throw me, as I always thought it was the other way around........woman being too trusting and naive. Certainly not with a man that is very smart and self-relient with a very good job/income. Anyway, I was just wondering if any men would honestly say they are naive when it comes to a women. ~ Christinia G. :glow: Post Reply
View Profile History	Are men really naive when it comes to women?? Posted : 16 Sep, 2010 02:49 AM Naive is to not be aware of what you aren't aware of. What is it you think we are naive about? Only recently did I learn women actually like talking to us guys. If it looks like they don't want to talk to you it probably means they want to, unless they don't. Or maybe they do but don't want to at the time, but ya know, or about a bazillion other reasons, and that's just one of the many things you do that we're just expected to understand and accept without being told. So in not so many words I would say yeah, we are really naive when it comes to women. Post Reply
View Profile History	Are men really naive when it comes to women?? Posted : 16 Sep, 2010 05:46 AM Ah, but it's nothing to get worked up about. Just focus on ourselves, let the world worry about itself and enjoy the ride. Post Reply
Tulip89 View Profile History	Are men really naive when it comes to women?? Posted : 16 Sep, 2010 06:10 AM I was much more naive a year ago than I am right now. My dad never taught me a thing about women. I can't really blame him though, because his father was barely present in his life. The closest thing we get to any sort of instruction on women is movies. After all, good Christian boys don't date around, so it's not like we learn about women by trial and error. We're supposed to date one woman in college and keep her around long enough to get married. Even worse, the church doesn't usually provide any help either. Everybody would rather joke about how confusing women are, and how nobody will ever understand them. Now, I'm not claiming to be some sort of "girl whisperer" now, but I finally got fed up not being able to figure women out, and started asking my friend Carrie a lot of questions. She was honest about girls, and she was honest about guys. She was also honest about what really worked instead of just telling me what should work in an ideal world. I actually haven't dated anyone since then (other than a few dates here and there), but I've seen a lot more interest from a lot more women she she verbally beat the unconfident, passive guy out of me (in the nicest way possible). Moral of the story? Every guy needs to adopt a "little sister" if he doesn't have one already. Then he can ask her questions, and she can teach him about women. It isn't about manipulating women though. It's about understanding them so you can be a better boyfriend or husband. Post Reply
stormcountry33 View Profile History	Are men really naive when it comes to women?? Posted : 16 Sep, 2010 08:59 AM YES!!! Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	Are men really naive when it comes to women?? Posted : 16 Sep, 2010 11:20 AM Men seem to be more unassuming. I guess that might count as naivety though. I see a lot of woman manipulating the trust of their husbands. I don't know if it's insecurity in the relationship or what, but they seem to like to bribe, or guilt-trip, or mislead, or reward/punish their respective partners into doing things for them. A lot of the time it is probably the only way to get their selfish/lazy husbands to do things, but it seems to be a infectious trait that transfers into other people/relationships. I've overheard this kind of thing a lot. "Oh, he won't do this for you? You don't know how to control your man?! You should use this on him, it works every time for me!" So then I don't understand a lot of women. I feel naive because I would never guess they would do something like that to someone they "love". For me it's all straight and logical. If I love my wife, I will do things for her. If she knows that, all she has to do is ask, and hopefully she shouldn't even need to. She wouldn't have to trick me into it if it was a good thing, and the lack of trust she would be showing to me would be concerning. If I'm not doing things for my wife, EVEN WHEN she asks, then I probably love myself more than her and we'd need some counseling or something. That's a separate topic though...why do women marry "works in progress" and hope they'll change. That's one more thing I don't understand. I really can't blame them too much though....that seems to be all that's left. Boys in men's bodies that want their wife to be their mother and do everything for them. :peace::peace: Post Reply
SilverFire View Profile History	Are men really naive when it comes to women?? Posted : 17 Sep, 2010 03:04 PM OP, a man having a good income, a steady job, being smart, and having confidence in no way means that he understands women. That just does not follow, logically. I wouldn't say that I'm naive about women. I'm jaded. I understand how women work, what is important to them, and generally get why they do things. However, knowing all that doesn't mean that I make the cut. Oh no. It means I understand exactly why I don't make the cut. So it leaves me with a very literate, a very informed, angst. Post Reply