Author	Thread: A Belated Response to "The End of Fake"
theDave View Profile History	A Belated Response to "The End of Fake" Posted : 22 Apr, 2010 05:45 PM Well this has been interesting to say the least! I'm sorry it's been so long, I got a job that demanded 12 to 16 hour days; but it paid well! :rocknroll: Anyway, let me clear something up: I do not hate myself. What I meant when I said that I did hate myself was that when I fail (in this case fail to reconcile existentialism with Christianity) I get frustrated, as any human should, and hate myself for my failures. I don't hate the core of who I am, not at all. I actually have a very high sense of self worth and I wouldn't trade who I am for anything. After a few weeks away, I re-read my original post and I definitely see my frustration but came to this, "Those who see themselves as wise in their own eyes are foolish and guys desperately trying to find a date on the internet are a blight on the earth. " And I have to apologize for it. That was a hurtful thing to say and I'm sorry. Now Archimedes, I really didn't expect anyone to applaud me. And I certainly didn't say, "You are all..." or denote in any way what I thought about every single person on this site. I also apologized to the one person who came out and hinted that he was hurt by what I said. I also never claimed to be an expert or a know it all, but that I come off as a know it all. And the only reason that I would search for truth, or wisdom, or clarity is that I realize that I don't have them. At least not in their entirety. I will say that a lot of the posts after "The End of Fake" are pretty awesome! I looked two pages before my post and found that there are a couple of good ones but not as many as after. I won't claim full responsibility because that simply wouldn't be true... but I will claim some responsibility as "The End of Fake" is one of the most viewed threads in recent history. I think that "The End of Fake" has some truth to it; but I also think that the afore mentioned quote from it was indeed hurtful. I'm sorry for the undue pain that I may have caused anyone, I hope that you all can forgive me. P.S. I also have had some awesome breakthroughs in my reconciling my existential beliefs to my Christian beliefs. I'm writing, well a story about it and I'll post it when I'm finished. But I'll warn you, it won't make some of you very happy. Post Reply
View Profile History	A Belated Response to "The End of Fake" Posted : 22 Apr, 2010 06:11 PM What a man admits his faults. This is good.I respect that. :waving: :angel: :peace: Post Reply
theDave View Profile History	A Belated Response to "The End of Fake" Posted : 22 Apr, 2010 06:13 PM P.P.S. The reason that it won't make some very happy is that it starts off very dark and if you stop reading it halfway through you'll completely get the wrong idea. Post Reply
View Profile History	A Belated Response to "The End of Fake" Posted : 23 Apr, 2010 01:16 AM Dave, Existentialism has become cliche'. It died with the "beatniks" in Greenwich Village. I doubt if you will get much dialoge here with that. If you are trying to figure out if you really exsist or if you are a figment of someone's imagination...try this...hit your thumb with a hammer. Sartre's slogan��existence precedes essence�� was much a bunch of self indulgent beer nuts and could have been reached by comtemplating his navel. How about we see the Real Dave? Ask a real question. Post Reply
View Profile History	A Belated Response to "The End of Fake" Posted : 25 Apr, 2010 06:58 PM Dave, I can see how you would have a dilemma. Existentialism is diametrically opposed to Christianity. Christianity believes in a rational and just God who makes decisions based upon His own character and nature. Therefore it is rational to Him to oppose everything that is against His character and nature. His rational is expressed in His justice. He is not a god of fairness because fairness is not actually free from bias or injustice. His justice is rational because it is not based on a personal bias but rather a personal character and nature. If you see yourself as a self-determining person that is responsible for the authenticity your choices then you must also believe that God has no control over what you do or what happens to you, right? And yet the Christian perspective is that while you have the ability to make choices and reap the results of those choices, God also has the ability to guide and direct you into right and beneficial choices or allow you to make wrong and potentially harmful ones. You may have the power to choose what you do but ultimately God is in control of everything regardless of what or how you choose and everything turns out according to His ultimate plan. Pro 16:9 A man's heart deviseth his way: but the LORD directeth his steps. Psa 37:23 The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way. Psa 85:13 Righteousness shall go before him; and shall set us in the way of his steps. Psa 119:133 Order my steps in thy word: and let not any iniquity have dominion over me. Jer 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps. Thunder Post Reply