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You will find peace and not fear.
Posted : 31 Oct, 2012 03:48 PM

14I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. 15As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.





27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father�s hand. 30I and my Father are one.





I am but a sheep with the rest of you. I know my shephards voice. We dont need to stress about fasle teachers and such if we just live in this reality and rest in our shepherds leading.

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Posted : 31 Oct, 2012 04:07 PM

PETER: Do you think we act in mercy if, after a wolf has eaten the sheep, we have pity and compassion on him, and save him that he might eat still others?



NATHANIEL: It seems to me that this would rather be a great cruelty. For this would be to murder the sheep to save the wolves, and abuse the mercy which it is fitting to exercise toward the sheep.



PETER�. There are many who, in matters of justice, employ such love and forgiveness, in tolerating the wicked who deserve punishment, and leaving them to trample the righteous and innocent, instead of punishing them as the ought. The same also oft times happens in the Church, when we tolerate far too much the scandalous, and pay no heed to the great damage they bring to the entire Church.



Pierre Viret, Instruction chrestienne en la doctrine de la loi et de l�Evangile� Tome I(Geneva, 1564), 91

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Posted : 31 Oct, 2012 04:10 PM

Do You trust the Spirit of God? Do you trust the good shephard? Do you trust the Father who art in heaven?

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Posted : 31 Oct, 2012 04:14 PM

Do you love and care for the peoples future here more than God Himself?

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Posted : 31 Oct, 2012 04:14 PM

Do you have the power to preserve their souls?

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Posted : 31 Oct, 2012 04:16 PM

Your own words are your own indictment LTM. Nice try though. :winksmile:



Why are you here continuously teaching and promoting your ideas?

Do You trust the Spirit of God to teach all of these fine folks without your help? Do you trust the good shepherd to lead them without your "wisdom" and "practical tips"? Do you trust the Father who art in heaven?

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Posted : 31 Oct, 2012 04:22 PM

Enjoy yourself in your new thread. Plead your case LTM. Wisdom will always prevail over you.



Wisdom cries out in Proverbs 8:36

But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.

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Posted : 31 Oct, 2012 06:05 PM

6But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek



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Posted : 31 Oct, 2012 06:09 PM

If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.

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Posted : 1 Nov, 2012 09:26 AM

"There are many who, in matters of justice, employ such love and forgiveness, in tolerating the wicked who deserve punishment, and leaving them to trample the righteous and innocent, instead of punishing them as the ought."



TBK...do you mean like God does for us? We are sinners after all. Sinners who are not always righteous. I would say everyone deserves at least one chance at forgiveness. God let this debtor go, and the debtor abused his fellow men. I know it's a parable, but I believe it is exactly how God deals with us. You are forgiven. What is your foremost responsibility, and what happens if you don't do it?



Matthew 18:21-35

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21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? 22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven. 23 Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants. 24 And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents. 25 But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made. 26 The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. 27 Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt. 28 But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest. 29 And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. 30 And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt. 31 So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done. 32 Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me: 33 Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee? 34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him. 35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.



What is this false teaching that LTM is guilty of? Is he denying Christ as messiah, or denying he is the divine son of God? Is he promoting satanic and/or idol worship? Is he saying that circumcision is necessary for salvation? Is he denying the resurrection of Jesus?



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Posted : 1 Nov, 2012 09:37 AM

Again Mark,



Easy for you to pop in at the end of a discussion possessing very few historical facts and make assumptions. Not wise, but easy to do. I actually have been on LTM's side a few times. However, he doesn't want anything but "atta boy's" for the many articles that he posts. Most are unreasoned, confusing, doublespeak, and sorely lacking in any kind of Biblical support. He closes his ears and eyes to this when I and others discuss it with him. This has gone on for months.

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