Author	Thread: relationships fail and does God fail?
Admin	relationships fail and does God fail? Posted : 8 Aug, 2012 05:48 PM If God is the only being who can bring two people together, especially Christians because they should have higher standards, and they should have better relationships for those standards then non-Christians do but seemingly they don't. Then why do most relationships fail? Isn't the things made by God meant to last? and if their isn't a difference between a non-Christian and Christian relationship which I've seen both -- both fight about the same amount and both have the same rate of failure. So, why go though the time and trouble to end up as you are now just with heartbreak? From a guys point of view: A non-Christian girlfriend does seem to have one advantage over Christian women and that's sex before marriage. So, what's the deal? any thoughts **fyi Notice: I do not in anyway approve of sex before marriage but I'm simply playing devils advocate to see how Christian men and women think*** How can Christians logically proclaim God when their relationships are no better then the rest of the world's? When their no better then the rest of the world? Post Reply
View Profile History	relationships fail and does God fail? Posted : 8 Aug, 2012 07:26 PM God doesn't fail; it is people that settle for less than God intended and instead of respect and love they settle for temporary satisfaction and lust. The sad part is when you settle for lust you are bound to fail. Post Reply
View Profile History	relationships fail and does God fail? Posted : 8 Aug, 2012 07:33 PM To add to what my sister here is saying... God never fails, love never fails. These two things are intertwined, because God is love. What you see around you is a result of sin, and wickedness. When you have the mind of Christ, then you would do as he would do. You would abstain, you'd resist, you'd forgive, you'd love. Few people can say they love like Christ loves, few can say that. Love is perfect. Whatever is not perfect is not of love. Whatever is not of love is not of God. Post Reply
Apostelle View Profile History	relationships fail and does God fail? Posted : 8 Aug, 2012 10:31 PM Most people think that the root of all evil is money, or the love of money. That is false. The root of all evil is selfishness. It is this selfishness that causes marriages to fail. When one spouse puts their needs above the needs of their spouse, then it is doomed to failure. If there is true love, there can be no selfishness because you love the other person more than you love yourself. God is true and perfect love. He gave us his Son so we could have eternal life. The most selfless act is to give your life for another. Jesus gave his life for all of us. When a husband and wife put each other before themselves, they can not fail. Even in bad times, they hold each other together and support each other. When a relationship goes bad, it is not God that fails. It is the weakness of the flesh that fails. Post Reply
View Profile History	relationships fail and does God fail? Posted : 8 Aug, 2012 11:44 PM Most of the time (if not all of the time) we want to have our own way in relationships even as christians. We see people,we get attracted to them and pray no beg God to make them the one. We don't let God make our matches. We haven't let go of all our preferences and dropped our own standards. How then can we expect to have unique relationships if we still want to have a say in the kind of mate that God wants to enjoin us to? How can God run our show if we still want to pull some strings? We fail because of some form of pride in that we see ourselves us deserving something better. We look at others whom we 'don't deserve' from a 'pedestal' and still expect God to direct our paths. As christians,i think we all need to change our attitudes..even me. Post Reply
View Profile History	relationships fail and does God fail? Posted : 8 Aug, 2012 11:50 PM Yeah, me too... Amen. Post Reply
View Profile History	relationships fail and does God fail? Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 06:19 AM Op, You are right!! The church has failed in its witness to the world around us. We have failed in our love toward oneanother. Those of us who have failed due to our selfish sinfull attitude toward our spouse ( I am one) can turn this around through repentence. Repentence is the key!! And not just saying sorry but turning to a different path that is of God........ I think more so called christians are more interested in fire insurance than knowing God. Saying I am saved and that is enough for me. I have news for them it is not enough. Being a Christian is more than just realising we need a savior its wanting to know God. Knowing God leads to salvation. A person who wants salvation without wanting to know God is just fooling their selves. I am thankful God has given me another oppertunity to love a woman. Faiths77 and I are engaged to be married this comming year. Over the past 19 months we have proven our relationship works together. We have found such harmony in our relationship that we truly have discovered the mystery of oneness. Unlike with other fine christian ladies that I was in relationship with we just fit. Many of the thoughts I have posted here come out of our love for oneanother and the reality of our oneness. Now incase anyone questions me. Our oneness is born out of the Spirit, emotion, and mind. The oneness of flesh will wait until I travel back to India and we claim eachother in marriage. I have discovered in our relationship that being head means that it is my responsibility to see that oneness is maintained. My leadership is of humility and their is no room for pride in my part. Even in our decision making process. It is my responsibility to see that we are ONE together in the direction and path we take. Some times it is waiting for God to speak to her and some times it is I who have to change my thinking. But to maintain unity I have to be certain we move foward together with faith and confidence. That no one is left behind. We walk side by side as equalls in the truest sense of the word. Even though we have had many fights over the life of our relationship we have a completly clean slate with eachother. Their is total forgiveness together. Forgiveness and understanding. This comes through our much invested time in oneanother. You see it wasnt until I had fully repented of all of my transgression that God redeemed me and redeemed my love life. And believe me I had much to repent toward concerning relationship with a woman. I know God is not through with me. He is working in another area of my life to bring me to repentence. Money........... Their is a place in my heart where I have difficulty trusting God in the area of money just as I had difficulty trusting God in the area of loving a woman. Its our need for controll out of our deep fear that causes us to sin against God and man. As we know God, His love casts out fear that we might see clearly and become loosed from the bonds of our flesh. Then we are to witness to the wolrd Gods works and who He is through His works. That they might repent and believe and know the one true God. This is my prayer for the church to repent. Michael By the way men the key to finding the right woman is simple. Who ever walks with you in harmony is the right one. Just take time to prove this out and dont become fooled. Post Reply