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Posted : 26 Jul, 2012 01:30 AM

"Marriage is not a joke. It must be worked on and prayed over" Martin Lurther

Do you think that most problems in a marriage could be pointing to problems in a couple's spiritual life(a sagging spiritual condition)? I would really like to get ideas about this thread. thank you!

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Posted : 26 Jul, 2012 08:16 AM

the thing that floored me the most about marriage, the realization that She mirrored the flaws i found in myself...

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Posted : 27 Jul, 2012 04:59 AM

When Paul writes about marriage being a mystery what I see is it is........



Let me eplain......



When marriage or oneness with a individual is expressed in a godly manner there becomes total acceptence of eachother.



Like with Jeus how He covers our every flaw and expresses grace and mercy.



We forget marriage or oneness is not about becoming perfect it is about expressing unconditional love.



We often forget this and marriage becomes about pointing out flaws and living with unresolved bitterness.



Our hard hearts and self righteousness break the coventent of marriage because God can do nothing with them.



You see i am guilty of these things but not comdemned. As I repented God taught me about how to love even greater. But I also know how to spot a woman who knows how to respect. When a man knows how to love and a woman knows how to respect then they will truly be a mystery to the world.





Grace and Mercy,



Michael

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Posted : 27 Jul, 2012 02:16 PM

Thank you so much Micheal for you post. so are you saying that a couple's sagging spiritual condition(not always praying and asking God to intervene and direct a marriage) has nothing to do with problems in a marriage? are you saying that other factors like those you wrote weigh more? I would just like to understand that.

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Posted : 27 Jul, 2012 03:09 PM

Sister,



" so are you saying that a couple's sagging spiritual condition(not always praying and asking God to intervene and direct a marriage) has nothing to do with problems in a marriage? are you saying that other factors like those you wrote weigh more? I would just like to understand that. "



I would ask this, Is it possible that people of other religions or of no religion at all can have a healthy and successful marriage?



I hope you would answer Yes...



Praying is important, seeking God to intervene is important but that is not what God wrote in His book what is required from a husband and a wife.



There are basic principles that are being missed in relationship with men and women. The most basic is few men have a clue to what love is and few women have a clue to what respect is.



Love and respect are the foundation of a successful marriage.



The problem is we all have differing definitions to what that is and what that looks like. Most will say well the bible teachs what love is and rattle off a list of things love is, right?



The difficult thing is how to apply those things when we are being verbally or physically attacted by either man or woman.



When we feel rejected by our spouse and so on........



We can pray until we are blue in the face. In fact most couples who are going through seperation probally pray more. But their focus in prayer is all wrong usually.



I would bet that when couples are going through seperation they are praying for God to change the others heart and fix their spouse.



This kind of praying is ineffective because the one praying is supposing they are innocent.



Its not until we see our own sin and repent of our own sin that God can work. Its not until we trust God to do whatever work in our spouse's life and give God all the room and time He needs that change will happen.



These are just the tip of the ice burg so call it. I am in process in writing a book that details practical application in marriage. A kind of how to book for marriage.



There are some here who say how can that be so hes divorced and doesnt have the experience of a married couple. Well its their right to think this and I accet their opinion but I know better. Just because someone has not walked on Mars or the moon does not mean they cant understand what it would be like to do so from a far, right?



Given enough information and experience from other resources they could for sure understand.



I wish i could spill out for you all the understanding I have recieved from God concerning this but if I did my book would be written already would it not?



And if you see anything I write concerning marriage that contridicts the bible I would love to know what it is,





Humbly,



Michael

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Posted : 5 Aug, 2012 05:48 PM

Perhaps so... I would guess that it is.



Just remember... marriage is the leading cause of divorce! :P

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Posted : 6 Aug, 2012 05:43 PM

:rolleyes:



Then I guess being alive will one day kill you.

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Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 07:28 AM

Yes,



First of all we really have to understand what a good spiritual life is.



Besides having a spiritual life is not realy the foundation for having a sucessful relationship.



It really comes down to sacrifice of ones self. And even non believers can be sacrificial in relationship.



They can express genuine love and respect.



I thought with my first marriage if I prayed enough and believed enough then our seperation would heal.



That is not the case with a hard hearted individual. We can pray and love someone with a hard heart and they will never change if they choose not to.



If you would like to discuss more in detail I would be willing.



Peacefully,



Michael

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