Trust you are having a great day. On this question i would say yes we would love to be the head not because of the bible but we love it lol Just joking.... but realize we all have different functions and roles we lead in the house. Women are better at nurturing therefore they lead in that area. The Man is just leader in the team of equal members, each team member has a role the man is just accountable for the two when God wants to hold someone accountable of the two. we men are to love our wife unconditionally, and women to respect your husband. if each person is playing his or her role i know that transcends time whether modern or ancient. I hope my contribution helped out.
modernization has in no way changed the original design....
mortal men/women may have tampered with the ideals,perspectives,theologies,social customs/traditions,interpretations over several few centuries, the original design is still the original design...
I had to write an exegetical study on this subject for my dad from Eph 5:21 till the end of the chapter I just want to share a part of that here. Submission entails the idea of submitting to authority in the same way as one submits to the authority of a superior officer in an army, but it is to one another and in the context of the fear of God's authority over both man and wife. Men often forget this truth. Second Man is the Head of the Wife only under the Headship of the Lord Jesus. That means the true headship of the family neither lies with the woman nor with the man, it lies with the Lord of which a man is merely a steward. Therefore a woman submits herself to a man AS he submits to the headship of Christ.
A greater duty of the husband is not authority but the act of nourishing and cherishing. That comes from verse 30, The act of nourishing includes the duties of providing and sheltering so that something grows into its fullest potential.
Cherishing is the act of providing loving care. Therefore men and women must stop obsessing with authority and submit to the leadership of Christ.
For me it is not so much as one person being the head over the other. I think that both people bring different strengths and weakness to a relationship and a good relationship involves letting God use the strengths of both people in such a way that it brings glory to God. I do not believe that the woman is always the nurturing one and that the man is always the big bad alpha male, but then again I am a male nurse so my viewpoint on this is probably different than most males.
Matt, Peace, Blaz, Mykl...I'd would say you all are true in your own way. Thanks. I also believe that Really Suamission should be a voluntary giving but not something forced upon.
Submission can not be as it aught to be, if Christians are walking in the light of these verses.
Eph 5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
Eph 5:15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
Eph 5:16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
Eph 5:17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
Eph 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
Eph 5:19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;
Eph 5:20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Eph 5:21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
This is only happenning in the lives of those that have walked and continue daily to walk in The light of The gift of the holy ghost and the evidence as in Acts:2:4.
These people walking in the light of that word will not argue as some what headship is.
This is where we have let anti-Christian popular thought adulterate what God clearly, clearly states in the Bible. It has not changed, even though some would say we are too modern a society for the old Bible.
The gent a few spaces above this post explains this very well. To add my own words, a Godly man will not "control" his wife. Rather, as the spiritual leader, it is his God-commanded *responsibility* to PROTECT, LOVE, CHERISH, PROVIDE FOR, and LEAD his family in accordance with God's word.
A man who does these things will have earned the respect of his wife, and she will submit to him almost instinctively because she recognizes the good in him.
Where marriages often fail is when women go into it saying, "I am my own woman. I'm not going to submit to any man!" and when men go into it saying, "I am your Overlord! Submit to me!"
Women, if you're going to have a truly happy marriage, you have to accept the fact that men think differently than you, and that's why God put man in charge. Men think more logically, and less emotionally.
A man will kill an intruder to protect his wife. A woman will face an intruder and for a brief, but fatal, moment she will hesitate before pulling the trigger because she has compassion for the poor troubled man standing before her. She wants to talk to him, and see why he feels he needs to rob and murder people.
Finally (for this post), don't forget that when you are married, you are ONE PERSON. A house divided cannot stand.
If you were running a business with your best friend as an equal, 50% partner, and the two of you had to make a major decision for the business, yet you believed strongly one way, and your partner believed just as strongly the other way, what would happen? If neither of you had ultimate decision-making power, the business or your partnership would suffer.
If, however, you make the partnership 51% and 49% then you're completely equal for all practical purposes, and when some major decision must be made, both partners discuss the options completely, but one person has the final authority to make the decision. And if both partners are working for the best interest of the business (that is, leaving selfishness out of the picture), then the business will prosper because whatever decision is finally made, it is supported 100% by both partners without arrogance, and without grudges.
Remind me again about that logical prowess of men? According to statistics:
o Over 2 million prisoners are held in federal and state prisons or local jails and as of June 2006, of them only 203,100 women were in prisons or local jails which means that 1,796,900 incarcerated adults in jail are male
o About 80% of women prisoners have been sexually or physically abused (by men) before being incarcerated
o Battering is the single major cause of injury to women, more frequent than auto accidents, muggings and rapes combined
o An act of adult domestic violence occurs every 15 seconds, more frequently than any other crime in the U.S.
o FBI data indicate that 30% of female homicide victims are killed by their husbands or boyfriends
o Research shows that when (female) victims kill it is much more likely to be in self-defense than when (male) abusers perpetrate homicide. Victims who resort to homicide have often tried repeatedly and unsuccessfully to obtain protection from their abusers.
o A study on a California state prison found that 93% of women who had killed their mates had been battered by them; 67% of these women indicated the homicide resulted from an attempt to protect themselves or their children.
o 78% of the nation's jail and prison inmates grew up in a fatherless household, even though only 15% of today's adult population grew up without a father
How much of this activity is a result of using this God-ordained careful logic? These are emotion-driven activties, are they not? Until a man submits his emotion-driven 'instincts' to the Lordship of Jesus and admits it's power over him, how can he presume to love his wife as the Lord loved us, His church?
And I'm suprized your nickname passed the administrators careful eyes. I'm quite certain the choice of that name is emotion driven as well.
I sincerely appreciate your input and argument. You are clearly a compassionate person.
That's a long, tragic, list of statistics that, unfortunately, don't apply to the topic at hand. *Good* men everywhere wish there was no crime, no battering of women, no violence (other than in sports and movies), no rape, no incest, no murder, etc. Criminals are criminals, however.
Near the bottom of your post is what matters, and you are 100% correct. If people followed Christ and the Bible, the prisons would be empty.
However, you gave statistics for BAD men who were not following God. These men made choices to make bad decisions, and, even though you don't quote it in your statistics, I'll bet that a good 90% or more of the crimes listed were committed while the jerk was drunk or high, and thus *not in control* and the Bible tells us to be in control at all times; not drunk, for example.
We are to control our tongues, our anger, and we are to *love our wives and neighbors as we love ourselves.* Obviously, a man who beats his wife or steals from a neighbor disobeys God.
Now, do you really want to talk about men and logic? Go look up stats on the numbers of people who are mathematicians, physicists, MDs, architectural engineers and compare those numbers to the creative and nurturing arts such as interior decorators, cosmetologists, nurses, etc.
If you had a question or concern about my screen name it might have shown some class to simply email me and ask instead of embarrassing yourself in public by exposing your dirty minded thoughts.
