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Posted : 27 Oct, 2012 05:51 AM

7Husbands, likewise, dwell with them with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered.



1 Peter 3:7



I would like to ask both men and Ladies what practically do you see this " understanding" Peter is telling us men to have?





For you ladies specifically what significance does a man understanding have for you?

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Posted : 31 Oct, 2012 10:51 AM

So what you're saying is, you're absolutely right, and he's absolutely wrong. But either way, wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.



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Posted : 31 Oct, 2012 10:59 AM

Am I saying that he is absolutely wrong when he doesn't care that his teachings aren't biblical? Yes I am

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Posted : 31 Oct, 2012 11:35 AM

I would like to hear him say that himself, I doubt he believes that. I believe what you're saying is, you believe your interpretation is right and his is wrong. Do you remove all doubt from your own ability/interpretation? Enough to condemn him? I have to say, I hope not, and if you say yes, we really don't have much to talk about. I would prefer to stick with Jesus as my infallible source of wisdom, and not a human. You can say that you get your wisdom from the bible, but there are too many verses warning against people who twist verses to their own destruction, and if it's possible for him to do it, it's possible for you to do it. Having a difference in interpretation is not "living in open sin", unless it's in an obvious case, like, disputing the divinity of Christ, or condoning murder.



<< Romans 14 >>

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1Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. 2For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. 3Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. 4Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. 5One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. 7For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself. 8For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's. 9For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living. 10But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. 12So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.





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Posted : 31 Oct, 2012 02:59 PM

Thanks Dont.



I do care about truth, I care about the lives of those here, I care about GUD, I care about respecting others post started by them.



I care about the Word of God else I wouldnt have been studying Him for over 30 years.



Notice I said Him because (Jesus is the Word). I study a mans life.



The God man who redeems souls. I think our approach GUD, TBN and mine differ from oneanother. When approaching what we deem the Word of God.



This is the very root of why we many times have desputes over these things.



I wish he would just have his say and move on but he likes to beat the perverbial dead horse and doesnt know when enogh is enough.



But I understand and try patiently to tolerate him here. But at times he tests my patience.

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Posted : 31 Oct, 2012 03:37 PM

Truth Statement- Jesus took a club and drove the money changers from the temple.



Man A understanding - He was so angry that he grabbed a weapon and chased them out of the temple with it.



Truth Statement- Jesus took a club and drove the money changers from the temple.



Man B understanding - Jesus loved the money changers. In fact, he took his whole club of men with him and then he drove all of them home from the temple in his limousine.



This is the nature of the disagreements LTM. You have repeatedly distorted statements by applying false understanding to the terms being used. You have done this to push your own ideas. You have also done it in the face of many who have given you clear understanding from the Word of God.

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Posted : 31 Oct, 2012 04:27 PM

TBN, Clear understanding from your imature perspective.

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Posted : 31 Oct, 2012 04:35 PM

Is that your "A Game" LTM? I mean really. The only thing you could respond with again is that you are more mature than I am? You are so deep and wise? Right? Someday maybe I will get it? Do you honestly have any idea how totally silly that sounds? What's next, your daddy could beat mine up? Alright. You win. :winksmile:

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Posted : 31 Oct, 2012 08:55 PM

Donthit.....you won't see him say it outright. He says it many times however in other ways that are plain to see by all. It's why almost no one respects him here.

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Posted : 1 Nov, 2012 09:03 AM

Jesus took a club? Not a truth statement. He was angry? Which bible are you reading, because that's not in my bible. A scourge of small cords is not a club, and any anger you might read into the text is only a potential implication of your own interpretation. It does not say he was angry. He was also driving cattle and sheep out, logically, a "scourge of small cords" would be much more use against animals than men, especially since they do not understand human language like "take these things hence". He could have used the small cords against people, but again, it does not say he did. That is an assumption, and it's not a good idea to use assumptions to prove a point in an discussion, and in doing so, you're revealing a potential predisposition to viewing the bible in a certain way.



"And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village."



As far as LTM's "unwritten" and "unspoken" meanings go, it appears you know his motives/meanings better than he does himself. Assumption as to his own meanings is akin to character assassination and possibly even false witness. If it's "plain to see by all", I can guarantee there are many silent witnesses(not just ones that agree with you) to everyone's role in these "discussions", including your own.



I'm not going to assume any of this was anyone's intention, my object here is to get you to look at potentially mocking tones that people can infer into your own words, your own potential assumptions and bias into your reading of the word, and to start judging people like you want to be judged. I can see LTM using assumptions and insults as well, although I'm more inclined to give him some leeway since he is currently the one under fire, and that creates a little extra stress.



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Posted : 1 Nov, 2012 09:15 AM

Mark,



If I had wanted to quote the Scripture verbatim, I would have done that. My point was an object lesson. It was necessary to use words that have two meanings to make the point. That should have been clear. Sorry for your confusion.



I would like to believe that you are trying to help solve problems. This is the way that I am trying to view you. However, I think that it would be great if you would state your intentions because I am beginning to wonder what you are up to and why. I wouldn't generally insert myself into something that has a long history without first seeking the facts. I think this is what you are doing.

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