Author	Thread: Roles reversed?
Admin	Roles reversed? Posted : 2 Apr, 2011 12:23 PM I have a friend who is engaged and I asked her fiance' if he had a problem with her ministry flourishing as in her ministry is more prominent than his own. He told me the bible said that women submit to their husbands so she would have to hang back for his own. Someone please explain this to me because I'm noticing a trend here in ppl applying scripture for their own gain. Post Reply
View Profile History	Roles reversed? Posted : 6 Apr, 2011 01:08 AM Kjd23k, I know exactly how you�re feeling. I�ve got a group of close friends, they�re all girls, and they�re all mostly married. One of them, who seems like I�ve known for forever, was in a similar situation� in my opinion. While wondering what I should do someone gave me a really good piece of advice. They told me pretty much that I should back off out of the situation and mind my own business. I was like, �That�s not good advice at all!� But then they told me something which I hope I always will remember, and that is that maybe what I want is different than what my friend wants. Maybe what I want my friend to have is different than what she wants to have. The person who gave the advice was right regarding that situation, and I thought it was worth sharing. Though I don't know if it applies. Post Reply
View Profile History	Roles reversed? Posted : 6 Apr, 2011 02:41 PM Thanks alot Live it does. It's not easy and funny enough I have backed off and given her space to choose. Um to answer some previous comments I was thinking about it and I believe for me my submission is conditional. Conditional on whether or not my spouse is doing or making decisions that do not line up with the word of God.! Post Reply
Gourd00 View Profile History	Roles reversed? Posted : 6 Apr, 2011 08:28 PM It's called patriarchy and it's men (and some women) using Scripture to try to keep men in power over women. In the beginning men and women were equal (the word helpmate/helper that is used to describe Eve in the beginning is actually used to describe God much more often). The Fall included the very phrase that men would rule over women, as part of the curse. But Jesus redeemed us from the curse, so there is no reason to be sitting under it anymore. When we get to heaven, we may not be anatomically defined anyway, as Jesus said we would be like the angels in heaven, so there is no reason to be trying to force superiority now, especially when science has found that male superiority is not backed up by research or evidence. Post Reply
View Profile History	Roles reversed? Posted : 7 Apr, 2011 07:33 AM Yes I agree with you, Kjd23k and Gourd00. Just like our union with God is not an institution but a relationship, so marriage should be a reflection of this union. Post Reply
shepherdingking View Profile History	Roles reversed? Posted : 7 Apr, 2011 11:01 AM Some people just don't get it. When the bible says "he will rule over her" it is a statment of fact. It does not mean he has to try to do something God has already spoke into existence. Nor does it mean the woman has any choice in the matter. She came from God through the man, so he has the senority. :ROFL: When women rule over man it causes problems. Post Reply
View Profile History	Roles reversed? Posted : 7 Apr, 2011 01:05 PM (huge sigh) Okay I'll just leave it like that, I guess this is one of those things that some people will see as black and white though... you know what never mind. She doesn't want the rule over him it had nothing to do with it. Post Reply
Princekermit View Profile History	Roles reversed? Posted : 26 Apr, 2011 10:00 PM @kjd23k topic: Roles reversed? "I have a friend who is engaged and I asked her fiance' if he had a problem with her ministry flourishing as in her ministry is more prominent than his own. He told me the bible said that women submit to their husbands so she would have to hang back for his own. Someone please explain this to me because I'm noticing a trend here in ppl applying scripture for their own gain." Their (this man & woman) zeal or fire exceeds their biblical understanding. He has become legalistic, and they both have forgotten sacrificial love. The last shall be first, the first shall be last. Both have demanded their own way, instead of doing their best to ensure the the success of each other ministries. And I would say both of them, need to read and act on proverbs 3:5, and seek the leadership of the Holy Spirit in their relationship. A husband's first ministry is his wife. (A wife's first ministry is her husband.) His second ministry is his offspring. (again same thing) His third ministry is any additional duties the Lord has called him to do. (vice versa) Any man who says he must sacrifice his family relationships (with his wife and children) and do the Lord's work at the expense of the wife and kid's spiritual health and well being clearly does not know his word, and is unfit for the leadership role that he has taken. This is partly why so many preacher's kids become raging sinners when they get loose on their own. The Book of Proverbs isn't just good writings and poetry. Its a blueprint for building Godly Families. But too many ministers have become too lazy to seek wisdom and understanding. God will not issue conflicting calls to ministry or issue two conflicting ministries in his life. God doesn't need any of us. He does ask us for our obedience, and to walk in his ways. Post Reply

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