Author	Thread: pornography
Admin	pornography Posted : 19 Oct, 2010 10:24 PM What are your thoughts on why men (and women) look at pornography? Post Reply
View Profile History	pornography Posted : 21 Oct, 2010 01:38 PM @Shepard, I hear you, I just don't agree. My body belonging to my husband has nothing to do with control. Wow. :laugh: Love you, Jude!! :peace: Post Reply
SilverFire View Profile History	pornography Posted : 21 Oct, 2010 04:29 PM I will restate this, because Jude is not heeding the counsel of Scripture. I, as one of the men mentioned in her post, have been accused of sin. Her comments are below in quotes, followed by my comments. "Jesus* said if any Man ((( Looks ))) upon a Women with ((( Lust ))) he has Already Committed Adultery an no matter how anyone trys to Validate it or Sugar Coat it is still a SIN...So�either God is Right or Yall are�Hummm......" NOT A SINGLE POSTER IS JUSTIFYING SIN. Not one. You, however, have condemned the men who are sharing their struggle with the sin of porno, and that is unloving, judgmental, and sin in itself. Matthew outlines what is to happen in cases like this. As Matthew 18:15-17 states, I have showed her the fault. Now, I ask for the testimony of witnesses to the fact that the male posters were accused of doing something that we did not do. I see that Cowgirl has testified. Thank you! We need a few other witnesses to testify. I don't enjoy this, but if someone persists in accusation, I must follow what has been stated by the Word. Please don't make me treat you like a pagan or a tax collector, Jude. Post Reply
SilverFire View Profile History	pornography Posted : 21 Oct, 2010 04:31 PM BGirl is right, as well. There are far more females who struggle with pornography than are willing to admit it. In fact, that is one of the "growth markets" for the stuff, and that's why you see the mainstreaming of romantic erotica. Porn is rapacious and it's gunning for whomever it can get its fangs on -- male and female. Post Reply
View Profile History	pornography Posted : 21 Oct, 2010 05:22 PM yes silv the market is huge.. I know when I was a teenager my step mother bough playgirl for my step sister and I.. looking back now I see how THAT influenced SO many of my choices as a teen and young adult. Its sad that the world is as it is these days Post Reply
View Profile History	pornography Posted : 21 Oct, 2010 06:07 PM @Silverfire I would have been silent except you have asked for the testimony of male posters. Before I testify, allow me to say I have always respected and enjoyed your posts. Now for my testimony : Although I have been following this thread since it started I went back and re-read all of Jude postings. It is apparent she is sharing her 'opinion' on the matter. Although her convictions be strong, I do not perceive them to be judgemental. Here is a scripture that applies specifically to the situation at hand ; Romans 14:1-3 Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgement on disputable matters. One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. In summary ; For Jude this type of discussion in a open forum is sinful. Silverfire believes he has the freedom to discuss this matter in a open forum. According to scripture they are both right, except where they judge each other. Post Reply
cowgirl1984 View Profile History	pornography Posted : 21 Oct, 2010 06:48 PM @Jude. I was not "offended" by your post. I was saying that sin is sin is sin, and you singled sexual sin out as being sin and not alcoholism and addiction. But alcoholism and addiction ARE sin. Also, like SilverFire said, a question was asked, and we are responding to the question. No one is being descriptive or pornographic here. We're not discussing our deep personal issues. I do think some of the threads have been taken over the line, but I personally do not believe this is one of them. However I respect that you do. I never said I didn't. But to say that we shouldn't discuss our sins on an open and mixed forum, but it's fine to discuss alcoholism and addiction just not sexual sin, is hypocritical. If there is a distinction between different sins for you, then be more specific as to why it is acceptable to discuss one sin and not another. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing. It just sounded like you were saying alcoholism and addiction are not sin, but they are. I also believe that when it says in the Bible that men should council men and women should council women, it is not talking about these kinds of discussions, it's talking about discipleship or literal counseling, but that's just my opinion on it and I'm certainly not expecting anyone to change theirs. Just saying why I don't think this is wrong. I do think that if we get specific (like another thread where someone was asking for specific things...) then it is definitely wrong because it becomes its own kind of pornography. Originally I'd been thinking, if this bothers you, why read it and participate? But then, it seems that you feel this is crossing a line, in which case I can understand feeling convicted to speak up, which I would not want to criticize you for, but the post in question seemed to imply more was being discussed on here than actually is. @twosparrows. Good post and good point. But I don't agree with you that there was no judging on Jude's end. Post Reply
springrose10 View Profile History	pornography Posted : 21 Oct, 2010 09:15 PM Pixy asked a question. Then, she reworded her question. She found out that illegal child porn does not "pop up." From since verifying that infomation, nothing positive or productive has come from this thread. All I read is a bunch of people taking pot shots at each other for not being the right kind of Christians and asserting that "my scripture is more important than your scripture." This is not a thread about helping people who struggle and if at one point, it could have been, that opportunity is lost. The kind of behavior happening on this thead between fellow Christians is in direct contradiction of scripture!!! Don't any of you dare tell me that you have a right to confront a sinner! Confrontation of sin IN LOVE is for reconciliation and restoration. After you've removed the log from your eye and gotten permission from Jesus to cast the 1st stone, start a new thread. This one is over!!! Shut it down people, MOVE ON! Post Reply
bcpianogal View Profile History	pornography Posted : 22 Oct, 2010 04:54 AM Thank you Rose. I wanted to say that same thing. By the way, everyone, Pixy has deactivated her profile. As best I can tell, her posts on this thread were her last, and I can't help but think that the conduct here had something to do with that. Pixy has been through a lot (we've had several lengthy chats via email on this site), and needed our support, not our judgment and arguments. I agree with Rose. MOVE ON. Post Reply
View Profile History	pornography Posted : 22 Oct, 2010 07:23 AM There can be a lot of enjoyable conversations in the forums. But, there is very little tolerance for those who need help. If you genuinely are seeking answers for something that most people consider the norm, you will either be ignored or scolded. There are those of us who either through abuse or mental abilities do not understand normal social behavior when it comes to relationships. If we openly admit to those limitations, we are scorned or ridiculed. Post Reply
View Profile History	pornography Posted : 22 Oct, 2010 09:55 AM While I hear and respect everyone's views, I really do, I have one major issue. I looked up the definition of a forum, it is an open discussion. My problem is that people here want to restrict the flow of the forum, where it goes, what is said, how it's said, all in the name of what you as individuals think is personally proper. If you do not like the thread, the question, what is being said, how it going, I submit, do not participate. Do not comment. Do not read it again. Everybody is here is fully grown. If you can not state your opinion without 'the open discusiion' of it, cannot stand to have your staement challenged, your feelings are hurt from all these people who you will probably never meet, I again submit, that maybe the forum is not a good place for your sensitive nature. The fact that is this subject is even being discussed is enough that now know (if they didn't before) they are not alone. And is enough for someone to gather the courage to find the help they need, if they really want it. I will not be controlled by none of yall. Take that as you will, but I do hope your feelings aren't hurt. Good grief. Post Reply

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