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myhopejeremiah29_11 View Profile History	Pornography. Posted : 1 Aug, 2009 11:34 PM So this is a VERY touchy subject but I am curious as to what are men's thoughts about it. Pornography. Statistics show that 70% of men from age 18-34 visit a pornographic site in a typical month. 10% of adults admit to having an Internet sexual addiction. 28% of that were women. 29% of born again adults in the US believe it is morally ACCEPTABLE to view movies with explicit sexual behavior. 57% of pastors say that addiction to pornography is the most sexually damaging issue to the congregation. 47% of families say that pornography is a problem in their home. The internet was a significant factor in 2 out of 3 divorces. Average age of first internet exposure to pornography:11 years old. 50% of Christian men in churches are addicted to pornography. Curious as to men's thoughts on this since it is found more often to be men struggling with addictions to pornography opposed to women. Not to say that women can't be addicted because they can also before anyone jumps me on that. It is just more prevalent in men, men are more visual stimulated than females are. Post Reply
View Profile History	Pornography. Posted : 3 Aug, 2009 02:56 PM I have never understood teh draw to porn. I kow men and women who are addicted to it. I guess i think one its is a sin and 2 that is someones daughter sister mother / son brother father.. and if that was MY relative I would NOT want anyoen to objectify them in such a way.. NOR would I want them to turn themselves in to what other view as nothing more than a 2d object.. Maybe I am lucky because I have bad eyesight. I am NOT a visual person.. GBU Post Reply
View Profile History	Pornography. Posted : 3 Aug, 2009 04:08 PM dear thaddeus, you are right in that the same word can also mean woman,women,or wife or wives.. but if youll look closely at the definitions below and their respective references to verses as they were used . you will see that matthew 5:28 is only referenced to definition 1 woman ,women and is not referenced to definition 2 wife ,wives.. see if its not referenced to that verse then thats not the definition used for that verse.. and that is why it is translated woman in the kjv and the nkjv and the greek.. γυνή (gunē 1135) 1. woman, women a woman (The Greek translation of the OT for אשה, Gen 2:22,23); used also of a maiden, damsel (The Greek translation of the OT for ערהנ, Est 2:4). Reference(s) Mat 5:28, Mat 9:20, Mat 9:22, Mat 11:11, Mat 13:33, Mat 14:21, Mat 15:22, Mat 15:28, Mat 15:38, Mat 22:27, Mat 26:7, Mat 26:10, Mat 27:55, Mat 28:5, Mar 5:25, Mar 5:33, Mar 7:25, Mar 7:26, Mar 12:22, Mar 14:3, Mar 15:40, Luk 1:42, Luk 4:26, Luk 7:28, Luk 7:37, Luk 7:39, Luk 7:44, Luk 7:44, Luk 7:50, Luk 8:2, Luk 8:43, Luk 8:47, Luk 10:38, Luk 11:27, Luk 13:11, Luk 13:12, Luk 13:21, Luk 15:8, Luk 20:32, Luk 22:57, Luk 23:27, Luk 23:49, Luk 23:55, Luk 24:22, Luk 24:24, Joh 2:4, Joh 4:7, Joh 4:9, Joh 4:9, Joh 4:11, Joh 4:15, Joh 4:17, Joh 4:19, Joh 4:21, Joh 4:25, Joh 4:27, Joh 4:28, Joh 4:39, Joh 4:42, Joh 8:3, Joh 8:4, Joh 8:9, Joh 8:10, Joh 8:10, Joh 16:21, Joh 19:26, Joh 20:13, Joh 20:15, Act 1:14, Act 5:14, Act 8:3, Act 8:12, Act 9:2, Act 13:50, Act 16:13, Act 16:14, Act 17:4, Act 17:12, Act 17:34, Act 22:4, Rom 7:2, 1Co 7:1, 1Co 7:13, 1Co 11:3, 1Co 11:5, 1Co 11:6, 1Co 11:6, 1Co 11:7, 1Co 11:8, 1Co 11:8, 1Co 11:9, 1Co 11:9, 1Co 11:10, 1Co 11:11, 1Co 11:11, 1Co 11:12, 1Co 11:12, 1Co 11:13, 1Co 11:15, 1Co 14:34, 1Co 14:35, Gal 4:4, 1Ti 2:9, 1Ti 2:10, 1Ti 2:11, 1Ti 2:12, 1Ti 2:14, Heb 11:35, 1Pe 3:5, Rev 2:20, Rev 9:8, Rev 12:1, Rev 12:4, Rev 12:6, Rev 12:13, Rev 12:14, Rev 12:15, Rev 12:16, Rev 12:17, Rev 14:4, Rev 17:3, Rev 17:4, Rev 17:6, Rev 17:7, Rev 17:9, Rev 17:18 2. wife, wives a woman, one of the female sex; need of a maiden; The Greek translation of the OT for נערה, Est 2:4) and of an adult; also, with a Genitive, or ἔχειν (echein) (to have), or the adjective, ὕπανδρος (hupandros 5220) (under a husband) it implies betrothed, a bride, but not yet married; also used of a married woman, a wife; (so The Greek translation of the OT for שחא, Gen 24:3, etc.) Reference(s) Mat 1:20, Mat 1:24, Mat 5:31, Mat 5:32, Mat 14:3, Mat 18:25, Mat 19:3, Mat 19:5, Mat 19:8, Mat 19:9, Mat 19:10, Mat 22:24, Mat 22:25, Mat 22:28, Mat 27:19, Mar 6:17, Mar 6:18, Mar 10:2, Mar 10:11, Mar 12:19, Mar 12:19, Mar 12:20, Mar 12:23, Mar 12:23, Luk 1:5, Luk 1:13, Luk 1:18, Luk 1:24, Luk 3:19, Luk 8:3, Luk 14:20, Luk 14:26, Luk 16:18, Luk 17:32, Luk 18:29, Luk 20:28, Luk 20:28, Luk 20:29, Luk 20:33, Luk 20:33, Act 5:1, Act 5:2, Act 5:7, Act 18:2, Act 21:5, Act 24:24, 1Co 5:1, 1Co 7:2, 1Co 7:3, 1Co 7:3, 1Co 7:4, 1Co 7:4, 1Co 7:10, 1Co 7:11, 1Co 7:12, 1Co 7:14, 1Co 7:14, 1Co 7:16, 1Co 7:16, 1Co 7:27, 1Co 7:27, 1Co 7:27, 1Co 7:29, 1Co 7:33, 1Co 7:34, 1Co 7:39, 1Co 9:5, Eph 5:22, Eph 5:23, Eph 5:24, Eph 5:25, Eph 5:28, Eph 5:28, Eph 5:31, Eph 5:33, Eph 5:33, Col 3:18, Col 3:19, 1Ti 3:2, 1Ti 3:11, 1Ti 3:12, 1Ti 5:9, Titus 1:6, 1Pe 3:1, 1Pe 3:1, Rev 19:7, Rev 21:9 ole cattle Post Reply
View Profile History	Pornography. Posted : 3 Aug, 2009 04:20 PM Praise the LORD JESUS CHRIST and peace to the brethren. In continuing this discussion for the purpose of clarifying any misunderstanding for those who read/may read the posts. First of All, thank GOD for all the saints who do take a stand against pornography and every other sin for that matter. :applause: In your strong points, I encourage you, in CHRIST, to remain strong. To my dear brother who defined adultery as two people coming together, etc, etc, there is a difference between adultery and fornication. As I stated in my first post, by the grace of GOD, engaging in thoughts of fornication/adultery is sin and must be repented of. My point concerning adultery (of the heart) not being committed by a man desiring an available (unmarried/engaged) woman is this. Let's say a single man worked with a married woman who was very sweet, kind, and helpful. Let's say this single man really desired this woman to have as his own wife and began to set his heart upon her to have her. In other words, he desires her romantically, yet nothing sexual. I ask you dear ones, would he be committing adultery? The answer is Yes. He lusting after a married woman even though it's not sexual. So to say that the desire has to be sexual to be adultery is incorrect. Now lets take that same man in the same situation, but lets change the woman from being married to being single. Let's say he felt the same for this single woman, nothing sexual, but he loved her personaility and wanted to have her as his own. Would he then be committing adultery? The obvious answer is no. He's still looking at her to desire her yet he is not sinning. So the desire is not the sin, because the desire is pure (the object of the desire being a single woman. But the desire is not pure if the object (woman) of the desire is married. So we can see that it does Not have to be a sexual desire for it to be adultery. In the love of CHRIST, :glow: Thaddeus Post Reply
View Profile History	Pornography. Posted : 3 Aug, 2009 04:44 PM Praise the LORD JESUS CHRIST, peace be unto you saints of GOD. Brother cattle, i don't know where you are looking, but here is what i'm writting down word for word from the Greek Definition of the word "woman" specifically in Matt 5:28 ____(space is where the Greek letters would be) "gune, goo-nay; prob. from the base of 1096; a woman; spec. a wife:-wife, woman. So it says, "Specifically a wife." That definition along with a proper understanding and study of the context proves that the woman CHRIST spake of in Matt 5:28 refers to the wife of another man. It is very clear. That's what adultery meant in the Old Testament (to lay with another man's wife). The hypocrites boasted themselves of not be adulterers because they were not committing the physical act of Adultery. JESUS was saying...Not So fast...You don't have to lay with another man's wife (context, context, context) for it to be adultery, but even if you look at her to lust after her, you have already committed adultery with her in your heart. This simply makes desiring to have romantically a married woman a sin, while desiring to have romantically (Not fornicate with) an unmarried woman Not a sin. You we cannot desire to have a married woman romantically (sexual or not) and it not be adultery. Praise the LORD JESUS CHRIST. :applause: In the Love of CHRIST, Thaddeus Post Reply
View Profile History	Pornography. Posted : 3 Aug, 2009 11:13 PM I'm glad this was on this forum and not the "ask a gal". I can see why there are so many denominations for the same message. My challenging question to piggyback on this topic, is the definition of coveting and how adultery plays into the commandments? My ex always coveted other women and other men's wives for most of our long marriage. I had assumed that it was not physically acted on until the last year. He coveted for a prettier, taller with legs, nicer, upper class'er, dark hair, and so forth. But if he didn't physcially do anything, then its not adultery? Believe me, there was damage to my "wifey" self esteem and i felt betrayal. I'm not sure what hurt more, his infidelity or the many times of observing his coveting. please limit responses, i regret that i quit reading after a couple of paragraphs. Post Reply
View Profile History	Pornography. Posted : 3 Aug, 2009 11:52 PM dear thaddeus, this explains how the 2 definitions may occur.. and the reason that it is translated woman or women.. and not wife. When accompanied by a noun or pronoun in the genitive case or by a possessive adjective or when specified in some other way, the word "γυνή", which in itself means simply "a woman",[23] is used to refer to a "wife". In this context there is no such specification of the word "γυνή". In any case, it would be quite unwarranted to conclude, perhaps on the basis of the reference to committing adultery, that Jesus was declaring that lustful looks at others than married women were permitted. ole cattle Post Reply
View Profile History	Pornography. Posted : 4 Aug, 2009 06:34 AM dear folks, see folks the english language has words that have more than one meaning.. same way with the greek ,same word different meanings.. you have to look at the whole sentence or verse to know which meaning was bein used.. by the words leadin up to or after it.. like a noun verb adjective etc , that will specify which meaning is bein used.. now since i sure aint no scholor or english major or greek major.. as you all know lol... the guide i use someone that is a greek scholar or major has already did that work for me..and they have referenced the meaning upon which definition of the word goes with which verse.. and thats what the reference to the verses means to the posts ive given here. so even a simple man like me can look it up and see which meaning goes with the verse youre lookin at.. ole cattle Post Reply
View Profile History	Pornography. Posted : 4 Aug, 2009 05:35 PM Maybe that's just his preference and you should just look for someone else who doesn't do that. Of course, that answer is wrong. I write that it's not good for some men to focused on physical stuff so much and men put too much emphasis on looks, and you many of you act like I was wrong. Yet someone says something about pornography and you right away say it's wrong. That's great you should say it's wrong. Because it's filthy and wrong. But you should say it on both things. I was right. Some men put too much emphasis on looks. Is it possible that the emphasis that they put on looks has a connection to pornography. I think so. They're both wrong and better things for self-esteem of women can be done. P.S. Don't justify pornography or anything else by saying men are more visual. Where in the Bible does it mention that God created men to be more visual creatures than women. Unfortunately that is an excuse to be used hide behind when immoral activity is done or thought about. Post Reply
View Profile History	Pornography. Posted : 4 Aug, 2009 06:09 PM dear glory, one is called pornagraphy, one is called preference.. one is sin. one is not. theres a vast difference tween porn and preference.. less your preference is for a porn star.. or porn itself.. ole cattle Post Reply
View Profile History	Pornography. Posted : 4 Aug, 2009 07:44 PM As cattle stated, a preference is a preference and gazing at pornography is fornication. There is no verse in the word that states, "Thou shall not have a preference, for it is an abomination" Although it does state "Thou shalt not commit fornication for it is an abomination". Neither does it say a preference will cut off your communication with god, but fornication will surely cut off your relationship with God because it is sin. And ultimately, you will not be judged by your works, but by your relationship with Jesus, and you surely can't have a relationship with someone you have no communication with. Again, for the sake of clearing things up, if it seemed as though the men that responded to your forum post all wanted plastic barbie dolls as wives, that is not the case. Some of them simply stated they they would like a woman who shared their interest in physical activity and staying in shape. I agree, that if a man does not stay in shape himself, or he doesn't care about his bodily health, he shouldn't be demanding his future wife to do so either, but if a man does like to stay in shape or maintain some sort of physical fitness, I believe it is his right to find a woman that shares his common interest. In all things, God Bless. Post Reply

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