I have watched BobBobbins for some time now and believe that others on this forum should be better equipped in seeing what may be happening, from a perspective other than BobBobbins� while dialoging with him.
Dear CDFF members,
Please take the following statements I have compiled from 26 pages of BobBobbins� posts and imagine for a moment communicating to your husband or wife in like manner�
Imagine, as a parent or teacher, communicating to a child in this way�
You are the one who is the Pharisee�
For the sake of illustrating your error here�
The entirety of your argument is thrown completely out the window�
Your faulty exegesis of Matthew 19 leads to a totally erroneous understanding of the passage�
My point by point refutation of your article really wasn't for your benefit�
Your confusion appears to lie in not understanding�
Here again, your question illustrates your lack of understanding�
Your thinking illustrates that when you deviate so badly�
Are you yet without any spiritual understanding?
Are you a Pharisee?
Are you a false teacher?
It appears that you are consistently trying to trip up the true men of God with your unreasoned questioning�
Not to point out the obvious, but you haven't even made a feeble attempt�
If you are standing on the truth, then refute my points�
You might convince a handful of fools and simple minded folks with that style but everyone else sees clearly that you are defeated�
Over and over, I see ridiculous conclusions such as the one that you have drawn�
Sadly, the evidence shows�
You fail on two major fronts�
You demonstrate all of the traits/characteristics of the "stone thrower" from your article�
You are a FOOL, a self described STONE THROWER, a JUDGE without MERCY, and most glaringly a HYPOCRITE�
Your doctrines and teachings are those of an ANTIchrist�
I am trying to understand your position which is schizophrenic�
Perhaps, your lack of understanding is what condemns you�
Maybe you are a STONE THROWER�
All I can say is "wow." Talk about polluting a bored with off topic ranting�
Over and over, I see ridiculous conclusions such as the one that you have drawn�
Now, you are taking cover behind a woman's skirt�
I am challenging you to come out from behind that skirt�
Be a man and defend your article. Can you do that?
At the end of the day, I believe that you still fail�
In addition, I believe that you have no clear understanding�
You bring an unteachable spirit to the discussion�
Once again, you "gathered" wrong�
Since you have chosen to take a low road�
It's painful to have to be so tedious, but alas I guess you made it necessary�
Exposing your watered down middle of the road back side kissing teachings�
You boast now a victory you don't have! You have never addressed the scriptures i provided by point by point refutation because you are incapable�
Your teachings are weak�
You are cowardly!
With your continued childish cutting and pasting�
You have been warned�
He is merely another incompetent windbag..
Such a notion, in my eyes, seems intellectually incompetent and just plain lazy�
You have a glaring problem somewhere in your exegesis�
Due to sloppy interpretations such as the one that has just been offered�
Rather than humbling yourself to receive instruction�
Out of the abundance of the heart.. the mouth speaks�DEAR CDFF MEMBERS, IT IS IRONIC THAT THE POSTER SHOULD USE THIS PARTICULAR VERSE IN LIGHT OF WHAT HE HIMSELF HAS WRITTEN
Who is the liar here?
Contradiction after contradiction�
Lots of smoke but not much fire�
That you were so lacking in compassion in the first place�
Now, you want a gold star and a brownie for finally getting it right�
Everytime they hit their keyboards, the errors expose themselves. All I do is highlight them for the readers�.AGAIN, CAUTION MUST BE EXERCISED WHEN POINTING OUT THE FAULTS OF OTHERS
Yours is an impotent god and a worthless gospel... a god with no power to save�
Rather than wasting "the whole world's time", why don't you go work out your own salvation�
He reasoned poorly just like you�
Is it even necessary for me to quote the scripture to prove such an elementary point?
Shouldn't anyone who calls themselves a "Christian" already understand such a foundational issue?
Personally, I find all of your statements blasphemous-but it�s the logical outcome of the reprobate anthropocentric mind�
That is YOUR god�
I have read many of your posts and I just shake my head at most of them. I never bother to respond since I wonder what is the point?
I really can't help but just shake my head�
Once again, you have come here teaching falsely�
As long as you keep spewing false doctrine/theology�
You are a woman -take responsibility for yourself and for the woman's role in a marriage�
If you are divorced, you are NOT an expert on making a marriage work, contrary to your opinion. We don't need to hear about what you think you learned. Not until you have proven yourself in the context of a new healthy marriage. Those who have been and stay married for years are the experts�.DEAR CDFF MEMBERS, HERE, I MUST INTERJECT THAT NOT ONLY IS THIS STATEMENT AN AD HOMINEM, (MANY OF THE STATEMENTS COMPILED HERE ARE) BUT THAT THE POSTER ALSO FALSELY CLAIMS TO REPRESENT EVERYONE ON THE FORUMS BY CLAIMING THAT �WE� ARE IN AGREEMENT �ANOTHER INFORMAL FALLACY.
ALSO,
SOLOMON, WHO QUITE POSSIBLY SINNED GREATER THAN PERHAPS ANYONE ELSE IN SCRIPTURE IN THE AREA OF MARRIAGE, DID, IN FACT, BY THE GRACE OF GOD, BRING ABOUT THE WORDS OF GOD HIMSELF ON THE SUBJECT OF MARRIAGE�. HENCE THE SONG OF SONGS
BobBobbins� words continued:
Post after post, you offer bad theology�
I have no personal vested interest in you one way or the other�
DEAR CDFF MEMBERS,
Communicating to your husband or wife in this manner?
Communicating to a child in this way?
How might this affect someone? Being spoken to in such a way, day after day, month after month, year after year?
How might this affect a congregation of people�say a church?
I would be interested to know how this has affected some of you?
DEAR CDFF MEMBERS,
Please notice that if, from BobBobbins� posts, you separate the scripture he has quoted and his textbook explanations of scripture, which can be found on a number of Reformed Theological Sites online (such as the Puritan Board), what you�re left with is a collection of BobBobbins� personal statements, many of which have been quoted above. This would be called rightly dividing the words of a man from alongside the Words of our Lord.
SOMETHING ELSE THAT SHOULD BE NOTED,
From my experience, I believe that out of 26 pages of BobBobbins� posts, which I read, not a single one dealt with what God has done in BobBobbins� own life. Not a single one of his posts describes, in a relational or transparent way, a close, personal, loving and growing relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ, which is where true biblical teaching flows from.
DEAR CDFF MEMBERS,
I have not written this in order for any of you to belittle BobBobbins. On the contrary, I�ve written this in order that you might better love, in understanding and correction, one of your brothers in Christ, who is not only gifted, but who has given himself greatly to the pursuit of God�s Word on our behalf. I have however written this so that posters will not continue to feel intimidated or taken captive by BobBobbins� textbook theological and philosophical arguments, which, can easily become the whitewashing on a tomb full of a dead man�s bones.
� Love (Christ) is patient, love is kind. It (He) does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.� 1 Corinthians 13:4-7
�If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love (Christ), I am nothing. 1 Corinthians 13:2
May each of us continue in the Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ.
I would like to apologize to MyDreamtime33 for sounding as if I were him. I thought it would be good to sound like such a person.
In the past, Dreamtime has used the forums here as a means of educating us about our faith, as none of us are able to attend Christian schools.
My name is Marco, and I lost my parents when I was 7 because of physical and verbal abuse.
My brother's names are William, Alier and Deng. Each of them lost their families to violence in Sudan.
My beloved brother Cody, has strengthened me with the words and knowledge to use in my posts here on CDFF, though he himself is unable to actively participate because he is only 15. If not for Cody, we would have been unable to stand against such arguments as Informal Fallacies.
Though I have not worked in a group home for 5 years, I have lived in one for 11 years.
Though I haven't worked with counselors, I have been forced to speak to secular counselors all my life.
Though I have not worked with different churches or ministries, I hope that someday I will be able to do so by the grace of God....
"Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by this some have entertained angels without knowing it." Hebrews 13:2
Dear BobBobbins, you have entertained my brothers and I many times. Please teach us how to be. Please teach us how to speak to one another. No man will know the words to use, but God is able to cause him to know.
Marco
"Be glad, O barren woman (or man), who bears no children; break forth and cry aloud, you who have no labor pains; because more are the children of the desolate woman than of her [or he] who has a husband [or wife]." Galatians 4:27 Dear BobBobbins, It is very hard for me to have your gifts without my brother Cody's help. I know it is my responsibility, but I have felt poorly about myself looking to the forums because I am not as gifted as you. It has made me afraid to speak to others about how God has saved me because I may be wrong. It is easy for you to say you have no children, but you are unaware how God maybe using you.
William
Bob,
I have much to learn, but the iron you bear has pressed me and caused me to personally grow in my faith as I challenged you also. If you had not given yourself to learning, this would not be the case. For that, I sincerely thank you. I still have many questions and wish I could press this further (not the thread, but the questions), but because of school and my age it would be difficult to do.
BobBobbins wrote in the Biblical Questions Answers forum...""P.S. God will use this whole episode to accomplish His will and purposes."
To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD , that HE might be glorified. Isa 61:3