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Posted : 9 Jan, 2012 07:53 AM

Guys, are you more or less inclined to attempt communication with someone that does not want children? I am just wondering how is that perceived by the guys on this site.

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Posted : 14 Jan, 2012 08:57 PM

Adoption is called parenting after the papers are signed, and adopted children are your own. If your interest is not having children and charity work I recommend child sponsorship.

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Posted : 15 Jan, 2012 08:33 PM

Hi

I thought I might chime in .

I think kids are a blessing and not a burden . I am more apt to look for a woman that wants children because that is what I want .

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Posted : 18 Jan, 2012 05:08 PM

Something about relationships that helps to make things work is compromise. I naturally don't want children, and quite frankly don't feel the need to justify my decision on the forum. I respect all the opinions that have been presented, but I also see a lot of judgment on comments. The point for me is that I would rather not have a child. The last few guys I dated also felt the same way. I am open about this choice with dates and answer any questions on the subject. If the man I marry ends up wanting a child, then we both would have to compromise and adopt. There are probably more than 7 billion people in the planet. I think there is more than one child that needs a family, and we would be helping a child in need.

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Posted : 20 Jan, 2012 07:02 AM

"I naturally don't want children, and quite frankly don't feel the need to justify my decision on the forum."



And really, you shouldn't have to.

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Posted : 23 Jan, 2012 12:50 PM

In the beginning, the purpose for baring children was/is all about producing and reproducing after ones kind.

Reproducing young innocent, Godly worshipers, who would eventually mature and live eternally to worship and serve the Father in spiritual oneness, purity, and innocence, with their free will. This was/is God's plan for mankind. Righteous mankind was/is the first-fruits of God's creation, designed and ordained by God to bring Godly sons and daughters into the earth for the sole purpose of worship.



When man and woman sinned, that spiritual oneness, purity, and innocence was destroyed, and sin damaged mankind in his body, mind, and soul. The care of self took over and dominated the thoughts of his mind, thus we have the natural or "carnal" man, whose mind is by nature hostile towards God, and will not submit to his will and purpose.



The goal of Satan was to abort God's plan, so that no eternal worship of God would occur in future generations, thus God barred man's access to the tree of life, in order to redeem His plan for true worshipers. Raising and training up Godly eternal worshipers/servants, was/is the sole purpose of child birth, and

parenting. Woman was were created for the sole purpose of parenting, not for just satisfying Adam's sexual cravings, which he developed as a result of sin. A woman desiring a man, but not wanting to participate in any form of nurturing young souls for God, is in essence rebelling against her original God ordained purpose,

which is the population of the soon coming Kingdom of Heaven.



IT"S ALL ABOUT MAKING TRUE WORSHIPERS OF GOD :prayingm: :prayingf:



And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto

him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.

And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the

glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I

will I give it. If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.

And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan:

for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him

only shalt thou serve. Luke 4:5-8





Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when

ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the

Father. Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for

salvation is of the Jews.

But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall

worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh

such to worship him.

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in

spirit and in truth. John 4:21-24



And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme

his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to

overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and

tongues, and nations.

And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names

are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the

foundation of the world.

If any man have an ear, let him hear.

He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth

with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience

and the faith of the saints. Rev 13:6-10

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Posted : 24 Jan, 2012 02:27 PM

I was blessed with two great kids! and now I have a wonderful grandson!

That being said, I want NO more. Also I will not date anyone with kids any younger than 16.

That just for me.

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Posted : 25 Jan, 2012 01:47 PM

The desire to have a child was "hard wired" into our brains, by God. Wanting to adopt because their are too many people on Earth, and there is a child in need, seems to be more charity than parenting. So, when this adopted child is grown and tells you that he/she wanted to find their "real parents", it will be a kick in the teeth to you emotionally.



What if later in the marriage your husband decides that he wants a child that is from him and not from some strangers? A child with his smile, eyes, personality, or any other traits. For alot of men it isnt just about raising a child. It is about recreating themselves in some way. Passing on a lineage. Men tend to do this as they get older. All people change over time. I know I am not the same now as I was at 21. In the end, he may come to deeply resent you for it.

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Posted : 25 Jan, 2012 06:31 PM

If I adopted a child, I would have no problem with the adult child seeking out the birth parents. The child needs to know the heritage and is also important should any hereditary medical issues come up in the future. Why should that be "a kick in the teeth emotionally"? While I see how some might see that as a rejection from the child, it seems that people have a right to know their birth parents, where they came from, and the situations why they would end up being adopted.



I have these conversations early on in any dating relationship, so there he cannot say that I never stated my desires. Marrying someone and expecting them to change a major part of who they are because you suddenly (or progressively) did is not reasonable in my opinion. If the change consists of a leaner diet that puts the partner at a lower risk for a disease, I would consider that reasonable. A child is a major change.

As far as resenting me, while that is a possibility in any relationship for a number of issues or reasons, the potential "husband" that you speak about would have no reason to think I would change my mind since that is something I would bring up and engage him in a discussion well before marriage. It is also something that a good counselor would bring about in premarital counseling, and something I would feel strongly enough to ask that it be a topic for discussion.



While I respect your opinion that "All people change over time", I feel using such inclusive language is not necessarily true for most people. This is a major decision that I do not see any change just because someone twisted my arm.

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Posted : 25 Jan, 2012 07:55 PM

That is the exact reason why I ended two of my past relationships.



I have known people who have adopted and it caused them a great deal of pain when their "children" went to look for their "Real Parents". That was the adopted children's phrase, not mine.



I should also point out that the overpopulation excuse some people use just does hold water in western countries where the "native born" populations are decreasing. Populations in developed countries are becoming unsustainable and there will actually be a need to open borders because the number of non-productive older people will out number productive younger people.

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Posted : 15 Jan, 2014 09:26 PM

I have to disagree with your opinion that any woman who would not want to have children is selfish if they are able to bear children. There are often many reasons why a woman does not want children, and not all - or many - of them are selfish. A blanket statement saying that a woman is selfish who is able to bear children but does not want to is grossly unfair and ignorant. Also, it is not at all wrong to simply not want children - I think a greater crime is having children when not called to be a mother. I have several friends who do not want to have children, due to abusive pasts and worries about being able to properly parent. Still others contemplate the rightness of bringing children into a world of turmoil. Others question the rightness of bringing more children into the world when there are so many children in the world that need loving, Christian homes. I, for one, do not necessarily want to have children - even though I love children, and work with them daily. I might certainly want to adopt, but biological children are not a 'must-have.' I do understand that there are certainly women out there who do not want to deal with the mess and fuss of children, or having their schedules messed with, but I have as yet to meet any woman who feels that way.

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