In relationships you talk to get to know one another. If things work out the relationship will progress into something more.
My problem is that I can NEVER get to that point because the question always comes up "Do/Have you had sex? My response is always and will always be no I really do want to wait till i'm married. There's nothing wrong with that but guys always stop talking to me after that?
Why is that important for guys to have sex before marriage? Before some one says "Christian guys don't do that" They definatley do.
I've had this experience way to much and I just want to know why this is? Am I the only one left in the World who wants to save it for marriage?
I think this has not to do so much with "sex before marriage" and being a christian guy. It has to do with respect (which in return is something one should expect from a Christian).
I for example call myself Christian and see no wrong in sex before marriage (under certain conditions), bt we don't have to get into this here.
BUT this does not mean that I would ever push my gf to have sex, especially if I know she wants to wait.
So if the guys don't talk to you anymore after you tell them about wanting to wait, you'll be lucky you got rid of them, if you ask me. There are enough guys out there who would wait, maybe you get the wrong ones speaking to you, for whatever reason...
Be patient, and you're gonna be able to appreciate the guy for you even more once you meet him.
"There is no Hebrew or Greek word used in the Bible that precisely refers to sex before marriage. The Bible undeniably condemns adultery and sexual immorality, but is sex before marriage considered sexually immoral?"
1 Corinthians 7:2, But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband.
"In this verse, Paul states that marriage is the �cure� for sexual immorality."
I don't think you should have sex before your married, but I like to ask questions...
What if you have sex before you marry someone and then you marry that person? What if you've only had sex with one person? Why is it so important to have a certificate? Is there a difference if you get married by the justice of peace or a pastor? What about if you have a large marriage or you elope? What if you've lived with some and then have a common law marriage?
My intention is not to confuse, but I believe it's important to know what you believe and why you believe it. If someone were to ask you these questions (at school, at work, picking up your dry-cleaning) what would you say? What scripture verses would you use to back what you said?
I thought this was about men not answering any more when being told there was no chance for premaritial sex...? So you want to turn this into a debate about premaritial sex?
As so many asked the question, I will write what I think, but I ask the threadstarter to jump in and tell us to quit if she doesn't want this on her thread.
So I think I have to start from the beginning. I am not Catholic, which means I do not see marriage as a sacrament. It is not a heavenly thing like baptism or eucharist, it is something that has only to do with this world.
Basically marriage didn't even have the paper documents we have today about it. It was a man and a woman, consenting (sometimes in the old days the consent of the woman wasn't asked but that of her father, but anyway) in living together in a partnership, that included sex, having children etc, you all know what I mean.
Of course there were celebrations when those people decided to live together, but still there wasn't something that took God into the whole thing. I can think of two wedding parties in the bible, one being the wedding of Cana in the gospel of John and one being the wedding of Simson in the book of judges, and none speaks of any involvement of a priest or another ceremony that is in any way connected to God being involved.
In other passages we read about man taking someone as wife. Period. So the partnership is based on the consent to live together and have children, all that belongs here...
When later in history, Christians joined in such a partnership, they wanted God to bless their partnership. So in the beginning the wedding was two people declaring on the city market place, they would be together now, later there was a priest added who spoke a prayer with them asking for God's blessing, and over time the whole thing came from the market place into church and there was a big ceremony put around it.
But basically the wedding ceremonies we have today is not the wedding itsself, but the blessing of an existing partnership.
I think sex does belong to such a partnership that is of both meant to last forever. We have today certain society rules, when to have the wedding ceremony in church, like after leaving college and earning your own money or whatever. People stay in those patterns, although they still live together as a couple before God and even pray for their partnership. The only difference to a "real" married couple is something legal: They do not have the paper yet and have not yet had the ceremony in church. They might have asked for God's blessings, but not in the traditional way "one does this". And in this point, it is all about tradition, not about anything that would have to do with God, because before God, they are together, they pray for the blessing of their partnership, maybe even with friends and family.
So please forgive me, but in this case I see not why sex before marriage would be wrong, just because one doesn't satisfy traditions of men.
Of course, if there is a breakup in that partnership, even if it didn't have this paper about it that calls it officially a marriage, this can clearly be called a divorce (now I'm thinking about changing my status to divorced, but maybe this would lead to even more questions...). I see no difference between that breakup and a divorce, axcept for all the legal stuff involved. But before God there is no difference in my thoughts.
So maybe you understand now what I mean, and maybe yo see that I do not say it was okay to have a different sexual partner every night or two. But I think this whole sex before marriage thing is something moralistic that has not so much to do with God or the bible. There are even hints in the bible that having sex meant being married. Morals alter wanted to get everything in fine manly order, and have rules with it so there shall be no sinning. But all these moralistic rules are not from the bible, but from manly reasoning. I don't say they were wrong to live by, and I have respect for eveyone who waits until after the wedding ceremony in church before having sex, I would also respect that if I had a girlfriend who wanted to do so, as I said above. A partnership is not there for the sex, marrying to have sex won't work out in most cases I guess... If there isn't more than desire there's hardly a chance it will last, with or without a paper saying that two people were married.
