Author	Thread: Where Have All The Cowboys Gone?
Admin	Where Have All The Cowboys Gone? Posted : 6 Nov, 2009 03:20 PM I will say growing up in Arizona, in the country with a very gentlemanly father...I saw at a young age what a gentlemen was supposed to be. I think all girls can say that the idea they have of the cowboy includes him protecting her, defending her honnor, keeping her safe, killing the food, chopping the wood...you know the cowboy basics, you can pick up the manual at any Barnes & Noble. Today I was so disheartened to see the complete and total lack of chivialry in the world. :dunce: I noticed I had a low tire and decided to go to my local QT to fill it up. Now my father in all his infinant wisdom taught ALL 5 of his daughters how to work on cars, i.e. change the oil, check all the fluids, brake, transmission, oil, so on so forth. Change out spark plugs, brakes and tires. He gave us the knowledge so that we would not have to depend on anyone if we ever got stuck on the side of the road. I pull up to the air compressor and see there is a line. The lady in front of me is next. She gets out of her car and is in a mini skirt and cowboy boots. She is a very physically attractive woman. I am not going to lie and say that I wasnt a little impatient as I had a lunch date with my sister that I was already running late to. I am watching this woman struggle to fill her tire. I then notice about every man in the parking lot checking her out. She is getting flustered because she obviously doesn't really know what she is doing. I watch 6 different men notice her, see her struggling and just look at her butt. I decided at this point from the look on her face that she is really stressed. I get out of my car and ask her if she needs some help. She initially said no. I asked her if she was using a tire gauge and she looked at me as if I was speaking a foreign language. I asked her again, are you sure you dont need help? She looked at me with all pride thrown aside and said yes, please help me. So I show her what a tire gauge is. Show her where to find her PSI on the sidewall of her tire. Show her how to get the air compressor hose to not roll back on itself. She was now empowered so to speak. The problem I have, is why didn't one of those guys at least offer to help her. They certainly found the time to check her out, but didn't have enough respect for her to ask if she needed help. So again, my question is where have all the cowboys gone? Are men so desensitized to the needs of woman that we can pretty much just expect to be looked at as play things, but not have any intimacy? I know this does not pertain to all men, but I see this decline in my generation and those born after me that seem to have no clue as to how a LADY expects and deserves to be treated. Would love some opinions on the subject. Post Reply
View Profile History	Where Have All The Cowboys Gone? Posted : 7 Nov, 2009 11:14 AM I hear what she is saying and did not get that she was asking men to live up to her expectations or that she threw everyone in the mix. But, to give the men that did not help her some benefit of the doubt~~dressing in a mini skirt might give them the idea that she is a liberated woman that can do anything by herself and would shoot them down~~rejection ya know? It is what it is and I prefer a smaller town, too but mostly that men and women would get back to manners if they have lost them or worse~~never learned them. :applause: Post Reply
View Profile History	Where Have All The Cowboys Gone? Posted : 7 Nov, 2009 11:16 AM Sorry~this is ask a guy thread~realized that after my post. :purpleangel: Post Reply
View Profile History	Where Have All The Cowboys Gone? Posted : 7 Nov, 2009 04:53 PM Well sorry for coming off so blunt and personally attacking you. What I took issue with had nothing todo with how men should be more gentlemanly. and more to do with what i percieved as you saying that country people are so good and that city people are so bad. which in my experience has been the complete opposite. And even though it's not really what this was about it sounded like you were saying that my tormentors (country people) were noble and my friends (city people) were scum. Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	Where Have All The Cowboys Gone? Posted : 8 Nov, 2009 04:07 PM It's just becoming a freaked out world. If a guy would have gone up to her and said "do you need help?", and she said "no"...if he asked again...she would probably call the police...and with good reason. I would have thought thrice about helping her just because of the way you described her...I would be thinking that she would be thinking "this" the whole time..."He's just helping me because I'm hot...what a pig". The world is becoming full of misconceptions and twisted logic and it is slowly killing "nice". Whats left of my country cowboyness is restrained to holding doors for people, unless it's obvious they want/need help from me or if it's an emergency. Been burned too many times. But what really gets under my skin is that this applies to men only apparently. We live in an age where women want to be equal and not be "the weaker sex"...but the guy still has to open the doors, put the toilet seat down, jump in front of the rabid dogs, run into the burning building, and stay on the titanic and die... if you don't do it? Half the women call you a pathetic little man. And if you do it? The other half call you a chauvinistic pig. Chivalry just doesn't feel appreciated or even wanted sometimes...I still try...but it's getting harder not to be cynical about it. And it can all be applied conversely to men. Men are increasingly selfish/lazy/wimpy and don't appreciate all that women do, so women stop doing it. What are we going to do about? Hope for a better/fairer world....and hopefully...stop complaining. Me included. Let's blame it all on Satan...and besides? Who came up with chivalry anyway? How about we stick to "do unto others"? I like that rule better. "Put the toilet seat down for others, as you would have the toilet seat lifted up for you":goofball: :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	Where Have All The Cowboys Gone? Posted : 9 Nov, 2009 07:22 AM Chivalry n., pl., -ries. 1.The medieval system, principles, and customs of knighthood. a.The qualities idealized by knighthood, such as bravery, courtesy, honor, and gallantry toward women. b.A manifestation of any of these qualities. 2.A group of knights or gallant gentlemen. Protection of the weak and defenseless The Knights had a Code of gallantry and honour that medieval knights were pledged to observe. Its principal virtues were piety, honour, valour, courtesy, chastity, and loyalty Even they were not able to comply with this code or very few did. But the general idea of protecting the weak and defenseless is something that most of us (men and women) have in us intrinsically, inherent in our nature. Being Chivalrous is a Virtue. The men and women who daily run towards danger in the pursuit of saving someones life are Heros. They have an Internal compass that always points towards Integrity, to �doing the right thing� regardless of personal safety or consequence. Helping someone in need today may backfire on you --lawsuits are so easy to implement. Yet, I believe as men we are Mandated by God to be Knights (in all the good sense of the word) and being Polite is one of the Virtues of a Knight. There is a way to approach a woman to ask if she needs help � regardless of appearance or attire � that is not threatening. Chivalry is not dead. It is still in the Hearts of many Men. Peace Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	Where Have All The Cowboys Gone? Posted : 9 Nov, 2009 08:25 AM Maybe, but right there, by definition, chivalry implies that women are weak and must be protected. Not many women like to admit it, and it takes a steady man to not let his supposed "strength" go to his head. It's all pride and vanity in my opinion. I'd rather just treat each other like Christ would, and not lay down expectations of little rituals each gender has to perform to be a "good man/woman". Anyway...getting a little off topic here. Guess my point is...I've done it many times..."Ma'am/Miss...would you like some help?"..."No". Am I supposed to keep pushing? Because that's news to me. :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	Where Have All The Cowboys Gone? Posted : 10 Nov, 2009 03:11 PM sorry you experienced that. I was raised in Mississippi in a small town of 400 and was raised a gentleman . I hope that most men from my generation would have helped. I have noticed a great decline from the younger generation in this area. Hope this gets corrected with time. God bless Tommy Post Reply
View Profile History	Where Have All The Cowboys Gone? Posted : 10 Nov, 2009 06:13 PM I agree with you Songbird. I detest being hit on and treated as though I am a piece of meat. It hinders me a lot in dating, I can't stand be cheated out of my identity and limited to a pretty face and body. However, I would have to say that a good portion of the female population are working against us. Our feministic society's ideals teach women to look down on the gentle "weaker" men who try to limit a woman's equality, as well as promoting a sexy "I will do it myself" kind of image. Not to mention every show, magazine and most books push the "put your body on display" type of mentality. I call it "presenting". The mini skirt girl did make this decision,unfortunately if you put it on display,men will check it out. The whole hitting on thing. So many girls I know are the opposite of me, who love the attention, the honks and cat calls. I get angry when I am out and someone "wants my body" essentially that is all they see me for. ...lol I know I need counseling.. I've never really figured out what to do about it. Post Reply
Xtine View Profile History	Where Have All The Cowboys Gone? Posted : 18 Nov, 2009 07:53 AM Very interesting topic.actually I laughed reading what u wrote there,donthitthatmark lol well first of all,not all people are the same,either men or women.cultures and tradition do involve tho and realize it or not,sometimes we even have to push ourselves to help other people as we already have our own assumpation(usually negative ones) For guys who read this,please do remember that we women have different output with what we have in heart dan mind.so when we say no,its not 100% sometimes. I had that experience,I just got back from a wedding party,still on my gown(my bestmaid gown) andddddd my car broke down.I was there all alone myself with noone helping but just some starres.I think its particularly the same everywhere,and come again I come back to the conclusion of hoping not to anyone but God coz I did survive when my car broke down in my bestmaid gown. And Sister,i have an interesting story.my best started a relationship a year ago.last year this guy was the last candidate of being the gentleman of the year.last week I met him,he turned to be the most gentleman ever!so,I think some men just need some triggers before they could be the one God created them to be!definetely the same with us,women ;) Blessingsssss, Chris Post Reply
CUL8er View Profile History	Where Have All The Cowboys Gone? Posted : 21 Nov, 2009 02:44 PM Hi Sister, Interesting blog. As Christians, we a called to live outside ourselves and grow in our compassion for others. My point is; the world is probably not too much different, but you are. Blessings, Steve, p.s. Fun too! Post Reply

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