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Polygamy????
Posted : 22 Nov, 2012 12:17 AM

How do you feel about polygamy? Do you feel it is morally wrong or something that God would approve of??? And would you ever consider practicing it yourself?

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Posted : 28 Nov, 2012 02:23 PM

philipian,

indeed it was meant in humor,with a serious twist.

Jesus said,Follow Me!!!!!

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Posted : 29 Nov, 2012 04:48 AM

wow...like various sets of in-laws ?...its complicated!

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Posted : 30 Nov, 2012 10:23 AM

This also might answer some questions:



http://www.biblicalfamilies.org/common_misconceptions

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Posted : 30 Nov, 2012 06:08 PM

Polygamy is disgusting, whether it be a woman with multiple husbands, or a man with multiple wives.



Some have said that polygamy is not wrong because some figures in the Bible have had multiple partners. The thing is God doesn't approve of it. Being a loving God though, God allowed some good to come out of it.



It's like when a man or woman is raped and a child comes out of it. The rape was despicable but sometimes God let's a child come out of it to be a blessing.



Hopefully what I'm trying to say makes sense.



It's pretty clear a union is for two, even if someone chucks out Genesis. The male and female bodies were designed to satisfy one partner during intercourse, not multiple...

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Philipian

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Posted : 1 Dec, 2012 04:44 AM

Peacenic, i can really see through it was a humor with such hard twist! Good one again from you!

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Posted : 4 Dec, 2012 05:37 PM

New testament times have a different set of rules. jesus changed the rules. i believe marriage is one of them..

Now it is one woman.

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Posted : 5 Dec, 2012 01:56 PM

'Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets:

I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you,

Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise

pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall

break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he

shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever

shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the

kingdom of heaven.' (Matthew 5:17-19)



Fulfil = Change?



Algomaboy, with all respect to your beliefs, I would just want to

know where exactly in the new testament is clearly written that

Jesus said a husband should only have one wife, and that now

it is a sin to have more than one wife? I assume you must be,

like many others, taking the bible very seriously, properly, and

would not add or take away from God's word. And we all know that

the bible doesn't leave anything unanswered. That's why I'm asking

to help me out with this one. I just want to gain knowledge.

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Posted : 6 Dec, 2012 06:36 AM

@Armin, If I may say, In the light of that quoted Matthew 5:17-19, your request from the last poster, may not have its desired answer met. But if you consider Titus 1:6, happily you may have some answers, particular if its all for "sake of learning" as adduced by you.

Titus 1:6 says - "If any be blameless, the husband of ONE WIFE, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly" King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)

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Posted : 6 Dec, 2012 01:37 PM

Philipian, thanks for responding to my question. Titus 1:6 would

indeed be an anwser to that question, but still there is that one

thing I wonder about; Aren't those words targeted only at the elder,

the bishops? At the man who wants to take care of the church of God,

like mentioned in 1 Timothy 3:5? The bible is full of polygamy, and

I do agree with that it's a change, or commandment, to be monogamic,

but isn't it a change for only that specific group of God's people?

That they should only have -one- wife, so that as bishops they can

focus better on their function in society than other 'not bishops'?

So that they would not make the same mistake Salomon did, having

-to many- wifes (way to many, not just three like Abraham for example)?

And if it would be so, that if we should also keep the commandments

given to Salomon, like we should keep the ones given to the bishops,

then wouldn't it be a sin to be the owner of a stud farm with horses,

as we should also automatically 'not multiply horses to ourselves'?



'For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in

order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city,

as I had appointed thee: If any be blameless, the husband of one

wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly. For

a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled,

not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy

lucre; But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just,

holy, temperate; Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been

taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to

convince the gainsayers.' (Titus 1:5-9)



'This is a faithful saying: If a man desires the position of a

bishop, he desires a good work. A bishop then must be blameless,

the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior,

hospitable, able to teach; not given to wine, not violent, not

greedy for money, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not covetous;

one who rules his own house well, having his children in submission

with all reverence (for if a man does not know how to rule his own

house, how will he take care of the church of God?); not a novice,

lest being puffed up with pride he fall into the same condemnation as

the devil. Moreover he must have a good testimony among those who

are outside, lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.'

(1 Timothy 3:1-7)



I do want to learn, because I do want to understand fully, to confute

all wrong and misleading theories, and not doubt about anything anymore.

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Posted : 8 Dec, 2012 10:55 AM

@Armin, dear brother, you are most welcome. As you said, if this is truly about learning, then lets get to it!

Q1. You questions about the passage earlier only targetted Bishops and Elders. Well that is not so. God's word has power to all MEN and not SELECTED sets of MEN. For its the same Lord over all. (Romans 10:12 King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) - For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. So given the Word of God that is able to save man, when God speaks to Bishops, elders are not apart. Its the same Lord over all, its the same Christ that died for all men. Its the same Grace we were given, Its the same Spirit we were baptised into, Its One LOrd, One Faith, One Shepherd, One Sheepfold, One Jesus!!!!!

Again, the following verse will do you good to know...

Romans 10:12 (New International Version (�1984)) - "For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile--the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him,"

Acts 10:34 ((King James 2000 Bible (�2003)) - "Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:"

Eph 6:9 - (New International Version (�1984)) -"And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him."

James 2:1 - "My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons."

Those verses are quite correct. God is not a respecter of persons�He does not show partiality or favoritism, and neither should we!



Q2. You said "The bible is full of polygamy". Well to say, I will have you redirect that question as this..."That Polygamy occurences was reported in the Bible" would be a more tenable fact to speak of rather than say "The bible is full of polygamy" as though the Bible endorses it. Jus as you quoted solomon and some others, there are other men of old too who remained monogamous. Have you thought of Philip the Evangelist in Acts of the Apostles who had 7 daughters who prophesied? How about Joshua? What do we say of Hosea whose single wife again was adulterous and he didnt for the sake of that amass more women for wife? From this examples given, The Bible does not endorse POLYGAMY! Yet the Bible recorded instance of it. And the portion of the Bible where that was prominent was in OLD TESTAMENT. Jesus had come and had given us the dictate and that should do. Excusing ourselves back in time to use those old men of OLD as face and cover to advance our causes is using the Word of God to our selfish ends!

Physically, have you ever tried to keep to women in your life at once? Have you ever tried it? Those who did will tell you its catastrophic! Its confusion. It slows you down and at the days end you are the one on the losing end.....

The prophecy in Isiah that 7 women will cleave to a man is not to support POLYGAMY, its to prove a state of chaotic order of the last days when the world will spiral out of order and 7 women will want to use a man as "name protectorate" not married in house as wife......



Isiah 4:1 New International Version (�1984) -"In that day seven women will take hold of one man and say, "We will eat our own food and provide our own clothes; only let us be called by your name. Take away our disgrace!" "

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