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Men are you
Posted : 14 Jul, 2012 12:40 PM

Going to get in the way of another man repenting by marrying his wife? An God possible bringing reconcilliation to her marriage?

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Posted : 19 Jul, 2012 02:59 AM

Teach,



I really can't help but just shake my head. You change your views from thread to thread. It seems your intent really is more to argue and debate than to stick to a consistent position especially when you want to come against what one of the men here has written.



There is absolutely nothing wrong with LTM trying to advocate for marriage, encouraging people to take responsibility, etc.

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Posted : 19 Jul, 2012 03:58 AM

1. If another man marries "his wife", then they are already divorced and thus she is NOT his wife.



2. Repentence of his sin does not depend upon remarriage to his former wife.



3. If his former wife was interested in marrying him again, she would not be dating.



4. If he was the one to fornicate and was the reason for his divorce, he can only remarry his wife, otherwise, he is committing adultery if he remarries. So, if she does not want him back, he can never remarry. The Bible does not give and "out" in cases of repentence.

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Posted : 20 Jul, 2012 06:24 PM

Bob,

My views have not changed and I have not presented different views from the thread:



"Have you been CONDEMMNED by others as having an "UNBIBLICAL DIVORCE" ?"



I agreed with Paul on this thread and have agreed with other men on posts. �



I support marriage and discourage divorce; however, in this less than perfect world, sin enters even Christian homes/marriages and divorce can and does occur. �I provide support for those who have gone or may be going through divorce. �



Matthew 19:7�They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?�

8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.�

9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.



Divorce is allowed...restrictions are on remarriage...on what are acceptable grounds for remarriage.

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Posted : 21 Jul, 2012 03:42 PM

(Divorce is allowed...restrictions are on remarriage...on what are acceptable grounds for remarriage.}



AMEN !

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Posted : 23 Jul, 2012 03:56 AM

Teach,



(Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. )



This is the qualifying statement as to why divorce is accepted by God is it not?



Who is Jesus speaking to then, our spouses? No he is speaking to the hearer and the reader, to us........



Divorce is permitted because God can do nothing with a hard heart.......Period.



He can do something with a fornicator or adulter if they have a concious before God and repent.



What I see here is hard bitter women who have been hurt and they want to continue to punish their husbands.



I dont hear men bashing their wives or maybe Im not talking to enough men.



So the question for all of us here, is our heart hard? That is what I see in many of you. Not all but many.





Peace and forgiveness,



Michael

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Posted : 23 Jul, 2012 04:54 AM

LTM,



I have spoken to at least 100 divorced Christian women over the past 2+ years. All of them had the exact same story - I was a model wife and my husband was the problem. Believe it or not, one of them was divorced 4 times - all of her husbands were the problem. I know of one exception, maybe two that have owned some responsibility for the marriages failing.



That has been my personal experience brother.

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Posted : 23 Jul, 2012 06:07 PM

Maybe I'm the first...because I have written on several threads how I know I was not the perfect wife. I will declare it again...I was not the perfect wife...and if God sees fit for me to marry again I will not be perfect in that marriage either.

When I made mistakes, I would seek forgiveness and try to discuss the circumstances so that we could work together to improve the situation. The circumstances of my divorce are not anything I choose to make public.

I do know that even after 6 years, he is still not living a Christian walk...and he thinks everything is good because he lied to leaders in his denomination and they did not remove him from the ministry.

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Posted : 27 Jul, 2012 06:22 AM

This question is very personal to me because that is exactly what happened in my life.



My ex had been previously remarried and another guy got in the way of not only me but her. By the way she is in another relationship and I expect that pattern to continue.



You see because she was impatient with me and with God not giving oppertunity for repentence she has now missed out in a good surrendered man.



Not good in and of my self but of God. All the suffering I went through and she went through with me was for no benifet for her.



We suffered together but alone and seperate, Just like what you are going through.



I could be the man of her dreams now but her bitterness and resentment due to her unforgiveness has closed the door to what she is looking for.



That is a man capable to love.



I admit I was not such a man. I was childish and selfish with her. I was insecure and spitefully done things to hurt her.



But what she doesnt realise is this.



She was the vessle used by God to motivate me to my knees. To humble me and to make me a man worthy of leadership. Just as i know God is using you.





Dont miss out on the true blessing. Dont allow another to come between the work God is doing to restore you and your spouse and dont be someone who will get in the way of such work.



Let us continue to be long suffering, Let us continue to be patient, Let us continue by faith, Let us Love......especially the one who needs our love most our spouse.





In Jesus Name,



Michael

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