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PrincessofRedeemer View Profile History	What date is the right number to kiss a girl if you both are interested in a realtionship? Posted : 4 Jul, 2012 04:24 PM A friend of mine wanted me to ask this question, yes I am serious, it is not me asking LOL :dancingp: :angel: Post Reply
View Profile History	What date is the right number to kiss a girl if you both are interested in a realtionship? Posted : 5 Jul, 2012 09:52 AM I'm not sure why a date number would factor in this at all. Some are committed to not kissing before marriage. Others want to wait a little while until the feeling is right. Either way, the feelings that lead up to and dictate when you kiss should have nothing to do with what number date you are on. Post Reply
PrincessofRedeemer View Profile History	What date is the right number to kiss a girl if you both are interested in a realtionship? Posted : 6 Jul, 2012 10:26 AM lol :ROFL: Post Reply
PrincessofRedeemer View Profile History	What date is the right number to kiss a girl if you both are interested in a realtionship? Posted : 6 Jul, 2012 10:30 AM I agree with the post about the laughter being a better guage of interest then the first kiss ,not all women are fall of their chair laughers but I believe that laughter is a way to a woman's heart, ya have to know he can be serious in hard times but the rest of your life should be a blast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :angel: Post Reply
View Profile History	What date is the right number to kiss a girl if you both are interested in a realtionship? Posted : 7 Jul, 2012 06:03 PM I would have to be say no kisses on a first date, second date neither on a third. A Peck is fine on the cheek. I mention this because a date doesn't mean a relationship. A relationship doesn't mean an engagement, an engagement doesn't mean a marriage. If you can kiss and not have any sexual thoughts, fantasies or imagination of any sort. You can but I doubt anyone can boast of that. I am not judging anyone neither am I putting a rule. If you want to live purely and have a pure heart please avoid. The Bible mentions a little yeast infects the whole dough. It also mentions and warns us to flee immorality or any appearance of it. It's better not to start what you can't finish. When kissing and cuddling gets boring, guess what you start pushing boundaries and may end up in a cycle. Asking for forgiveness summing again asks mg for forgiveness. I have been there I just want to givei my 2 cents Post Reply
View Profile History	What date is the right number to kiss a girl if you both are interested in a realtionship? Posted : 7 Jul, 2012 07:31 PM Sinning again (instead of summing) Post Reply
View Profile History	What date is the right number to kiss a girl if you both are interested in a realtionship? Posted : 8 Jul, 2012 07:21 AM (((((((((I would have to be say no kisses on a first date, second date neither on a third. A Peck is fine on the cheek. I mention this because a date doesn't mean a relationship. A relationship doesn't mean an engagement, an engagement doesn't mean a marriage. If you can kiss and not have any sexual thoughts, fantasies or imagination of any sort. You can but I doubt anyone can boast of that. I am not judging anyone neither am I putting a rule. If you want to live purely and have a pure heart please avoid. The Bible mentions a little yeast infects the whole dough. It also mentions and warns us to flee immorality or any appearance of it. It's better not to start what you can't finish. When kissing and cuddling gets boring, guess what you start pushing boundaries and may end up in a cycle. Asking for forgiveness summing again asks mg for forgiveness. I have been there I just want to givei my 2 cents )))))))))))))))) The bible also says it is better to marry then to burn. Some of us even if we dont kiss or snuggle just being in the presence of oneanother can be on fire with passion. I have personally experienced this just talking together with a woman i desire and she desiring me. I know that my body releases more testosterone and other chemicals than another. A woman picks up on these smells and becomes attracted to them and women have the same. Some women have more natural sent that is attractive to men. We know the perfume industry understands this. So with a combination of visual, smell, tone of voice two people can easiely have the same thoughts or impure thoughts as when kissing. To be honest with you talking over the phone and praying together with a woman over the phone creates in me a deep feeling of connection and some times the thoughts that you are speaking of. Our God has made us to be attracted to the opposite sex and this some times brings on the thoughts of sexual intimacy. James describes sin as something that goes from thought to giving birth. Dwelling on the thought is what leads to sin not having the initial thought. A person who hates a individual and has commited murder in his heart is someone who holds onto anger and it becomes hatred. A person who constantly looks with his eyes to undress women or vice a versa is a person who commits adultry. Murder or adultry is a issue of the heart we dont do these things we either are or we are not. We are either fornicators or we are not. I used to be such a fornicator with my eyes until I repented in tears and sorrow. I used to be other things until I repented in tears and sorrow. Paul writes about these things to the Corinthian church but he said you are washed you are clean. Let us live washed and clean white as snow. Post Reply
View Profile History	What date is the right number to kiss a girl if you both are interested in a realtionship? Posted : 8 Jul, 2012 07:53 PM @LetThisMind I would like to ask when you kiss a woman do you have sexual feelings, thoughts, fantasies, or any different feeling in your body. I ask not in judgement, like i mentioned i feel that way sometimes. Thanks Post Reply
View Profile History	What date is the right number to kiss a girl if you both are interested in a realtionship? Posted : 8 Jul, 2012 07:53 PM @LetThisMind I would like to ask when you kiss a woman do you have sexual feelings, thoughts, fantasies, or any different feeling in your body. I ask not in judgement, like i mentioned i feel that way sometimes. Thanks Post Reply
View Profile History	What date is the right number to kiss a girl if you both are interested in a realtionship? Posted : 9 Jul, 2012 04:03 AM Yes, kissing gets the fire burning inside of me but like I said the fire is already there and it doesnt just get burning with kissing other more innocent things get that fire burning as well. Activities that produce intimacy with a woman. Praying together is one such activity. I have prayed over the phone with ladies I was persuing for marriage and this produces very strong feelings of closeness and intimacy which caused the fire to burn. You see because I have not given my self to many women I keep for my future bride the fire that is due her. What I was simply trying to say is that we all have differing level of fire and what causes our fire to burn is not the same. My persuit of intimacy with a woman far exceeds the physical relm. I have learned what onennes in the spiritual and emotional and they are far more rewarding than the physical. Post Reply
View Profile History	What date is the right number to kiss a girl if you both are interested in a realtionship? Posted : 9 Jul, 2012 01:51 PM Matthew5 and Let this Mind, you both raise valid points and there is truth in both of it. I think that we as individuals need to know ourselves and what is our limitations, with this it brings two matters to the forefront. 1. Limitations, is something we can put on ourselves but ultimately we are fleshly and we always want what we cannot have, is it something that is elusive? no it is not especially when you have God as your head and he's the one directing your actions. I have heard people talking and raising the question; how will you know that you are physically compatible if you do not experiment? and this is a Christian argument. That sounds like something the snake told Eve in the garden doesn't it? lol. My personal view on this gentlemen is not to test yourselves, God does not tempt us and neither should we. I have been in a lot of situations as Let this Mind alluded to in his response where a thought entered my mind and because I did not rebuke it immediately it festered and it turned into sin. Case in point when I was younger I had a dream about going on a picnic with this gorgeous guy it was one of the most romantic things I had ever "experienced" the last part of the dream my head was in his lap and he was playing with my hair and I was jolted awake. A little disappointed it was just a dream I started to go through it in my mind ad as I began to the Holy Spirit stopped me and told me not to dwell on it, I asked why not and he told me plain as day it was a sexual spirit looking for a foothold in my life. Thoughts and the power of suggestion is powerful we need to rebuke these things sharply. Kissing can never be at least in my mind and for us who are hoping a relationship has the potential to lead to marriage be a casual thing but it's something that brings intimacy should there be intimacy outside of marriage of course as long as it doesn't cross the line of sexual intimacy. Whatever you do once it brings on the thoughts and desires that would lead you to engage in actions that is best saved under the covering of marriage should be avoided. At least in my book, I know myself and I know my limitation but I won't push the boundaries to tat myself the bible admonishes us not to put any confidence in the flesh, we ought to remember that. 2. There are ppl who would argue this point and enjoy a kiss or two. In doing some research for my youth group I came upon an article written by a young woman who was engaged to be married and she listed a bunch of do's and don't's between her and her intended when they were being physically close with each other. It went something like "When we make out we do not turn off the lights, I can touch him on the chest only but he can't touch mine, we can touch each other's legs, we can kiss on the necks but we can't go below the region, we can make out sitting up but nt lying down etc." I was really confused as I read because it sounded like a rule book entitled "How far can we go without actually sinning". I understand each person is different and the bible does not have a clear cut view on these things (kissing, touching etc) but that's what the Holy Spirit is for let's hope we all have the courage to consult him, lest we hear something we don't agree with :) Post Reply

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