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Posted : 3 Feb, 2012 05:19 AM

The single men and women, teens in my church are embarking on getting purity rings after some intensive study and prayer on the subject and what the bible (the final authority) says about it. Then we are coming together for a small prayer ceremony. this got me thinking... if you wore a purity ring what would it mean to you?

You might be reading this and think "Duh remain pure" but after reading many posts, conversing with many believers and reading blogs about Christian relationships and this matter there seems to be a disconnect. There actually seems to have "varying degrees" of purity. which baffles me exceedingly! In my mind it doesn't compute.

Men what are you thoughts? As a man what does purity to you signify and would you make sch a commitment?



(Ladies I am posting this over on the "Ask a Girl" side also)



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Posted : 9 Feb, 2012 07:23 AM

If she has been raped she is still a virgin? Wow! You have a really strange definition of virginity!

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Posted : 9 Feb, 2012 07:32 AM

Oh, and Jesus didn't condemn the Pharisees for their outwards appearances, he condemned them for ONLY doing the outward signs and not truly believing. If you look at the old testament you will see many requirements for the Jews to wear objects that reminded them of their faith. It is the same thing for the purity ring, it is not about showing others how �pure� you are, it is to remind oneself of the commitment to stay pure.

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Posted : 9 Feb, 2012 07:41 AM

Wow you guys are really going to town here. Look while I value your opinions I would have to say that the insinuation that wearing a purity ring is a sign of pride or that you are showing is an unfair statement. While the Pharisees were a religious bunch folk who only wanted to be seen their hearts were deeply rooted in pride and conceit. Because of that shall those who choose to make a sign silent their witness for something they stand for. To me a young woman or man who chooses to wear a purity ring, chastity, ring or abstinence ring whichever you choose to call it, is fine by me. The decision to keep yourself is a huge thing right now for people bombarded in a world of sin (although it shouldn't since this is what Christ requires of us) and if the decide to make a public declaration by wearing a ring so be it. People who may want to come down on them for this because they consider it arrogant and impossible should not jeer at them. Sex is all over in the media, in schools, movies, television if they say follow me as I follow Christ should we really be negative towards that. Sexual purity before marriage is not impossible, being pure of heart is not impossible we're pressing towards that goal here, living each day that the our flesh may be defeated and spirit reign.

We should be mindful that contrary to popular belief Christianity is a vocal thing you will be seen living out your faith. We are the testimony of Jesus and if we live our lives in a secret relationship with God fearing to do anything that would go against the tide because we're afraid of seeming arrogant then what are we saying? If the world can shout from the rooftops "Sin, sin and more sin" why can't we shout from ours "Jesus, Jesus is the way!" I am sorry for people who may see this beautiful thing as an act of arrogance or trying to show off. I think if that's an opinion it's just that and not something to make people feel bad about if they have their heart in the right place and if they believe in what they are doing. I hope you guys understand what I'm saying

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Posted : 9 Feb, 2012 07:41 AM

Wow you guys are really going to town here. Look while I value your opinions I would have to say that the insinuation that wearing a purity ring is a sign of pride or that you are showing is an unfair statement. While the Pharisees were a religious bunch folk who only wanted to be seen their hearts were deeply rooted in pride and conceit. Because of that shall those who choose to make a sign silent their witness for something they stand for. To me a young woman or man who chooses to wear a purity ring, chastity, ring or abstinence ring whichever you choose to call it, is fine by me. The decision to keep yourself is a huge thing right now for people bombarded in a world of sin (although it shouldn't since this is what Christ requires of us) and if the decide to make a public declaration by wearing a ring so be it. People who may want to come down on them for this because they consider it arrogant and impossible should not jeer at them. Sex is all over in the media, in schools, movies, television if they say follow me as I follow Christ should we really be negative towards that. Sexual purity before marriage is not impossible, being pure of heart is not impossible we're pressing towards that goal here, living each day that the our flesh may be defeated and spirit reign.

We should be mindful that contrary to popular belief Christianity is a vocal thing you will be seen living out your faith. We are the testimony of Jesus and if we live our lives in a secret relationship with God fearing to do anything that would go against the tide because we're afraid of seeming arrogant then what are we saying? If the world can shout from the rooftops "Sin, sin and more sin" why can't we shout from ours "Jesus, Jesus is the way!" I am sorry for people who may see this beautiful thing as an act of arrogance or trying to show off. I think if that's an opinion it's just that and not something to make people feel bad about if they have their heart in the right place and if they believe in what they are doing. I hope you guys understand what I'm saying

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Posted : 9 Feb, 2012 09:42 AM

"If she has been raped she is still a virgin? Wow! You have a really strange definition of virginity!"



In the eyes of God she is...and you cant possible be that obtuse.

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Posted : 9 Feb, 2012 02:34 PM

It�s not a matter of �in the eyes of God�, it�s a matter of fact. She wouldn�t be a virgin, but she would be pure. I�m not being obtuse, I don�t equivocate.

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Posted : 9 Feb, 2012 02:56 PM

Youre talking technicalities, cobbler. The physical body means nothing. They used to stone rape victims too. Even now, in Muslim societies, rape victims can be put in prison for being raped. Recently on tv, they had the story of a young woman who imprisoned after a relatives husband raped her. Her only way out of prison, to publicly forgive him, and then marry him.



Lets get back on topic. Whether they are broadcasting their so-called "purity" to the world, trying to impress their friends, or trying to make mommy and daddy feel better, the purity rings are about trying to make someone else think the ring holder is righteous. I believe another poster made the comment "filthy rags". Look it up.

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Posted : 9 Feb, 2012 03:07 PM

I'll admit I'm biased - I'm not a fan of any jewellery, rings or suchlike.



Having said that, imagine you were part of a group of young Christians and you'd all decided to wear these rings. Then one day you broke or lost yours when you took it off for cleaning. What do you think might happen when you show up in your group not wearing it?!:excited: Or worse still, you give in to temptation with someone else in the same group and both of you have to stop wearing them - would you still be so keen for this to be public?



I've no problem with people having a reminder to themselves (though a reminder shouldn't be necessary if we're responding in gratitude to God's amazing love:yay:), but like circumcision, that doesn't mean they should be publicly displayed

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Posted : 9 Feb, 2012 03:51 PM

God is a forgiving God so I don't think if you fall into sin it means your virtue is lost. The young men and women who are getting ready to do this at my church are from a wide spectrum of backgrounds. Some are virgins, some are those who may have had sex before and then came to the Lord. I'm not saying this is something you intended but the last post came off kind of sarcastic. It's kind of sad, but then that's how you feel so I can't judge. Just please if you encounter such a person please don't belittle or make them feel that how they choose to make their stand whether publicly or silently is self righteous or arrogant, you may not know what they have been through or where they have arrived at to make such a decision.



In terms of whether you are a virgin or not in the eyes of the Lord let me just share a personal experience. I had somethings done to me as a child and it scarred me, began hating myself and wondering how a man could want me in marriage if he found out I was no longer "innocent". I was so angry that this thing had been done to me it had robbed me. I met a sister in church who had gone through the same thing we had been sharing with each other about this. One Sunday she came to speak to me privately. She said she had been talking to God about me, and praying concerning my situation.

She told me; "God doesn't want you to be angry, he said stop being angry. you see yourself as damaged and worthless. I see you as pure. In my eyes you are pure" tears filled my eyes because I have really spent nights crying about it. So whether you are raped or molested it's something that you can't control and by physical definition you may no longer be a virgin but it doesn't take away your purity.

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Posted : 10 Feb, 2012 02:45 PM

I honestly wasn't being sarcastic and can only apologise that it came across this way. I'm still not sold on the idea of purity rings, but I also see I could cause more harm than good by continuing to argue against them so it's probably best if I say no more on the subject.

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