Author	Thread: The M Word--And I aint talkin bout marriage
HolyGhostGirl View Profile History	The M Word--And I aint talkin bout marriage Posted : 16 Apr, 2011 09:07 AM Gentlemen, please don't get crazy here. Don't get critical and don't judge me. I'm bold and I say what others think, so for real, don't think I'm a "bad girl" or anything, I just want opinions. We are all family, or should be, in Christ. With that said, as my brothers (cause I've already asked the ladies on our forum), answer this question for me..... Is pleasuring oneself wrong? Please read between the lines because I don't think I can use the M word here. If it is wrong, what biblical backing do you have? And what do you do to make it through lonely nights and vulnerable moments?
Tulip89 View Profile History	The M Word--And I aint talkin bout marriage Posted : 16 Apr, 2011 10:10 AM I'm gonna go with yes, it's wrong. Even if one could somehow separate the act itself from lustful thought, I believe it's still wrong, as sex was intended to be for our spouse, not ourselves. Is stumbling the end of the world for your Christianity? Not at all, but to condone it falls into licentiousness.
View Profile History	The M Word--And I aint talkin bout marriage Posted : 16 Apr, 2011 10:15 AM :excited: *running to the sink to wash from my eyes what I just read!* Lol, okay maybe I'll be back later.
View Profile History	The M Word--And I aint talkin bout marriage Posted : 16 Apr, 2011 10:53 AM This is something I posted on CDFF several years ago, but it has to do with this subject, Is mast ur bation a sin? This is a very serious issue that I have had to deal with in "children" within group homes who have been sexually molested. A family member sexually molested one of my own children when he was 8 years old. Afterwards he was forced to struggle with the temptation to stimulate himself in this way. I was forced to come to know the �truth� in this particular struggle, so that my son could be set free from what he'd been exposed to. Many children who have been molested become addicted to mast ur bating, but often, they do not continue to associate "sexual" or "adulterous" thoughts along with the physical sensation of being stimulated in this way. Therefore in these cases I do not believe that these children are committing the sin of "adultery" in their hearts. This would apply to adults as well. At the same time, I do not believe that mast ur bation is completely harmless. Sex is simply the �sign� of love, love being the reality. The essence of sexual adultery is the separation of the sign (sex) from its reality (love). When this is done, the sign (sex) becomes empty and void of its intended meaning. Continual mast ur bation is able to reinforce the separation of the 2. It is a form of focusing on the short term pleasure of this world (the physical), instead of the long term joy, which can only be found in the Lord (the spiritual). If anyone would like me to discuss this in more detail via private messaging, I would be happy to do so. Max
View Profile History	The M Word--And I aint talkin bout marriage Posted : 16 Apr, 2011 11:30 AM HolyGhostGirl, There's a lot involved when considering our sexuality. After all, we bear the image of Almighty God. Scripture tells us to do ALL that we do unto the Lord, and that by faith. Scripture also tells us that anything done, not by faith is sin. SO.... :winksmile: A christian would need to keep in mind that he or she would need to m..... unto the Lord, while doing so by faith :rolleyes: Sounds kind of tricky, doesn't it? Towards the latter part of his life, the Apostle Paul explains that it is no longer he living within himself, but that it is Christ who is living through him. Taking this into consideration, is Christ in us really into stimulating "Himself" in this way? Or would it be our flesh that yearns to stimulate itself apart from God - because it cannot find its joy and satisfaction in God.
Gourd00 View Profile History	The M Word--And I aint talkin bout marriage Posted : 16 Apr, 2011 12:13 PM First off, the topic isn't mentioned in the Bible, so therefore no one can point to a verse and say "There, the Bible says this or that." That said, it's a highly debated topic among Christians. My personal viewpoint is that there are a lot of more important issues to be concerned about than the M issue, and we as a group of people should focus more of our time on those other issues. As long as a person is responsible with their body and understands why they do it and what to do with those kind of feelings when they come up, then I think that is what is important. The M word can be a very useful tool for those times that a person sees too many tv or internet ads, or watches a scene in a movie that they were expecting to see, or whatever. M'ing also releases endorphins and oxytocin in the brain which helps a person to feel better and have stress relieved. While I wish there were a lot more things in the world to help with stress relief (which I am helping to work on), there currently aren't, and so people often turn to things worse than M'ing, including alcohol, drugs, and sex. And so M'ing can keep people from committing a lot more serious actions. And yes, M'ing can be done without lusting. Perhaps in a perfect world it wouldn't be thought about or needed, (though even this might be debated some), but this world is far from perfect and the action can have a lot of value. It could kind of be thought of like automobiles- they have a horrible effect on the environment (global warming), but this is the best we have right now, so until society changes so that we have something better, we have to manage with the resources we have.
View Profile History	The M Word--And I aint talkin bout marriage Posted : 16 Apr, 2011 01:28 PM Ok, I'm back. Let's talk about another "M" word, actually the prefix for your M word.: 'Master' Exactly who is your Master? Who do you obey? Who do you yield to? Is it your flesh? Does your flesh bait you into being your Master? Hmmm....interesting
View Profile History	The M Word--And I aint talkin bout marriage Posted : 16 Apr, 2011 01:36 PM I think it is a sin. But I think sometimes its better to take baby steps then go off everything cold turkey.
View Profile History	The M Word--And I aint talkin bout marriage Posted : 16 Apr, 2011 02:06 PM Soluvable, Agreed. It is VERY difficult to put of the old when the new is still being developed within us. Paul struggled with this (as do we) in Romans 7. The crucifixion of our flesh is a daily process. Paul actually likens this battle to beating himself in the face... :goofball:
View Profile History	The M Word--And I aint talkin bout marriage Posted : 16 Apr, 2011 03:45 PM Why would you post such a topic holy ghost girl? Seems you have too much time on your hands, Maybe you should use your time more wisely and read God's Word to find the answer instead of making LOTS of people on the forum un-comfortable. This is a public arena and you are discussing something in mixed company that is very inappropriate. I am really surprised cdff let you do this!
View Profile History	The M Word--And I aint talkin bout marriage Posted : 16 Apr, 2011 08:15 PM My personal opinion is that there's no need to judge HolyGhostGirl for asking an honest question. Those who feel uncomfortable didn't HAVE to click on the discussion with this title. Open discussion about such topics will help more people to see the light about them and learn God's will in things which are, may I point out, not directly addressed by the Bible (kind of like alcohol, or other many other things) and probably not directly addressed in Sunday school. And this is a dating website, I certainly believe in open communication with the people you are dating; knowing what each other's moral values are when it comes to sexual issues is a healthy part of dating relationships.

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