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The ONE
Posted : 3 Apr, 2011 03:07 PM

This one (no pun intended) has been on my mind for awhile and before I actually say what my view about this and how it is related to the Bible, I am curious about what other peoples views on this are on what part of the Bible they base in one.



The goal here is NOT to argue, but to shake out the truth about this topic based on the word of God and please keep that in mind when you post on this one.

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Posted : 3 Apr, 2011 03:46 PM

Clarification needed; I think you are asking if God has created "the one" to be your spouse?

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Posted : 3 Apr, 2011 04:17 PM

No, I asking what people believe about the "one" person for them and not if there is someONE for them.



For example I have seen in a few profiles that girls are waiting on the "one" like there is a perfect mate that God has assigned to them like they are winning the loto or Charlie getting a golden ticket. (There were other tickets. ;)

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Posted : 3 Apr, 2011 04:50 PM

There were other golden tickets, but each child got their golden ticket a different way.

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Posted : 3 Apr, 2011 08:03 PM

Ya know, I've actually been reading some articles lately over at www.boundless.org which are related to this topic. I find their take on it pretty interesting and logical.

Going somewhat off what I've read and trying to condense it, I'd say that one has to be careful of expecting to find "the one." Of course, if we are to marry, God already knows who that person will be and we know that he knows so we tend to say we are waiting for "the one" as if there will be some giant neon sign that God uses to flag us down and say "HEY, HERE'S THE ONE FOR YOU!" In actuality, is it likely God is going to do that? My guess is probably not.

God made us to be in communion with him and we are part of the church so I think it would make sense to say that God himself is "the one" and any attempt to make someone else "the one" takes our focus off Him and puts it on a human being who is, by definition, fallible. That being said, there is clear command in scripture for us to marry and reap the blessings of doing so if we feel so inclined. Therefore, I would postulate that there are several possible "ones" we could choose since God gave us free will. What we should keep in mind when choosing our "one" is that we were made to serve God so our choice must enable us to serve Him better.

Does that make any sense?

As an aside, why is there a Mr. T emoticon? :MrT: That just seems a tad useless unless one is going to say "I pity the fool."

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Posted : 3 Apr, 2011 08:46 PM

Nice answer stegoodie!

Just to throw it out there...

How many women did Adam have to choose from?

Did he have options?

Did he have to choose whom he'd be with?

Since we are unable to "see" the hearts of others, is it really any different today?

Who was it that prepared the "one" for Adam?

Who was it that prepared the "one" for Eve?

To this day, who is still the only One able to prepare the heart of anyone in order to present them to another of His children?

Who provided a wife for Issac?

Who was it that chose the twelve?

When we are focusing on serving the Lord, is there anything that God says we will have to "add" unto ourselves?

Or does HE say these things will be added unto us as we seek 1st His Kingdom and Righteousness?

Something else,

"if we who are wicked are able to give good gifts" - reminds me of our views on courting. In other words, if we who are parents think that "we're" interested in who our sons and daughters marry, just think of how interested God must be!

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Posted : 3 Apr, 2011 09:15 PM

stegoodie,



My thoughts exactly. Sometimes I think that people take things a tad out of the context of the Bible and I am not sure that it has ever been brought up on this site so I thought I would throw it out there to get discussed.

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Posted : 3 Apr, 2011 09:19 PM

Saying that there are multiple "ones" we can choose is kind of ridiculous. To say that there are multiple "ones" for us to choose from is to say that God has limited knowledge. After all, if there are multiple "ones," then God doesn't know which one that we will choose.

I see God's sovereignty constantly displayed throughout the Bible in Adam/Eve, Boaz/Ruth, Hosea/Gomer, etc. If he's got someone for you, I think it's Biblical to say that he'll bring you two together. Because of remarriage after the death of spouses being condoned in the Bible though, it stands to reason that there are multiple "ones" for some people though. That may not be ideal, but it's still under God's sovereignty.

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Posted : 3 Apr, 2011 09:37 PM

Tulip,



What would have happened if they if anyone of those people didd't get married? You would have never heard about them. It is not a question about multiple "ones", but the one you should marry. It's not a designated person assigned to you like homework, but a person that is of good requirement to marry.



I am not say that God does not specific people that should be married and her tells them so, but at the same time God also gives us wisdom and the Bible to make the right CHOICES.



Let's say for instance if you marry the wrong "one", then your going to say that was the right one, even if you went against authority for the right reasons it is STILL wrong. So you married this wrong person and then you had kids with them, and now you just created a new generation of kids that was not suppose to happen cuz you didn't marry that girl over there.



^^^ It's counter logic and it goes against what the Bible teaches.



I think there are people that you can marry and people you should and that is what the "one" is. A person that believes the word and is heading in the same direction or both of you are willing to change directions.



God knows everything and every outcome so if you take one road that is still serving God does that mean you tricked God cuz it wasn't His "perfect will" for your life!?!?



If God tells you to do something, then you should absolutely do it, but God also did not give us freewill, choice, and wisdom for no reason.

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Posted : 3 Apr, 2011 10:07 PM

You've seen enough of my stuff on here to know better than to think that I would believe that God would make one person for someone, then task them with finding that person, and if they don't, be mad at them for marrying the wrong person. Looking at the sovereignty of God and his involvement in so many details of the lives of different people in the Bible, it makes much more sense to believe that when God crafts a spouse for someone, he actively and sovereignly works to bring the two of them together. He isn't going to try to do something and then be frustrated by our stubbornness either. Sure we can resist the Spirit, but only as long as God allows it.



Second, let's look at your "God knows everything and every outcome" statement. Even assuming a God with limited sovereignty, but who knows everything, he would know which choice we were going to make in absolutely every situation before the foundation of time, which would mean that there are no other possible outcomes than the one that's going to happen. He would know exactly how everything was going to play out even before he made Adam. There can be no "possible outcomes" to a God who really knows everything. Even if he's waiting on us to make a decision, he already knows what that decision will be, which means that he doesn't have to wait on us, especially considering his existence outside of time, which essentially causes an eternal present for him where everything is at the same time.

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Posted : 3 Apr, 2011 10:23 PM

I disagree Tulip. I don't think it's ridiculous at all say that there are multiple possible "ones." I think it's a matter of perspective.

Let's assume I know 10 single Godly women all worthy of my interest as a Godly man interested in marriage. Now let's say that for whatever reason 5 of them don't match up with me and I am not interested in them. That leaves 5 women. All of them seek after God, all of them have things that I share in common with them. I sense that I could have a successful marriage with any of them but who's to say whether any of the 5 are the the one that God planned for me. I could date/court one. I could date all 5 in succession. I could date none of them. To me each choice seems equally valid. To me, it seems like there are multiple "ones." Eventually, I have to make some choice. Because God is sovereign, when I choose, if I've consulted him, I correctly choose the one he planned for me.

My point is that there may be a "one" woman for me but without God, who is THE "one", there's no way I find that woman on my own. However, a lot of people out there get so focused on finding their "one" that it's quite likely they never find him/her or they find him/her and don't recognize it because God isn't really part of the equation. Those people just hope God puts that big neon sign saying "HEY DINGO, HERE'S YOUR ONE" over the person they are meant to be with. When they don't see the sign, they just keep trucking on down the road of life forever wondering where their "one" is. This is exactly why the Jews never realized that Christ was the Messiah. They had this preconceived notion of what the Messiah, their "one," would look like and they completely missed it when he arrived and looked different than they'd planned.

As one of my profs likes to say, is that clear as mud?

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