I am addressing us men specifically. I just had a revelation about how we are responsible for the state of relationships and the level of divorce in the church.
You who is reading this. What are you going to do?
I would ask you to stop what you are doing right now in persuing any relationship and become not just familiar but intimatly aquainted with all scripture pertaining Divorce and remarriage.
Stop what your doing and learn what Jesus says and why. learn what Paul writes and why.
We men need to turn this around and it starts here at the front line of the battle. The enemy has waged war against the family and who will stand with me?
LTM, no one can say that all the blame for the problems of this world rests on the men.
But, if the changes you proposed above swept through the kingdom of God here on earth, it would cause a domino effect that would literally change the world!
Yes, I know the women here are not dong their part also but it is a womans responsibility to be the mouth piece to them.
I hope such a woman comes to the surface here.
I am going to post some thoughs in the future that are going to be very offensive to both men and women but these are things I have gleemed from Gods word and this is the place they need to be proclaimed.
It is my desire to find one or two like minded individualsi in my message to the men of this site. Any out there I wounder?
You are bold and full of the courage of Jesus our LOrd as you address your brothers and sisters here, and amen to that, if what you are saying is encouraging us to step back and be sure we are heading in the right direction for our future marriages then yes I am on board with you in this :applause:
The movie Fireproof is really a great example of how a neglectful and angry husband who couldnt cope with life fell in love with Jesus and then in love with his wife again.
His friend says 3 things that I love in that movie that I hope men take from it. I think this is very true about women who are already a Believer as we are not to be yoked to a nonbeliever.
1. He says Caleb, you would run into a burning building to save a stranger but you are going to let your own marriage burn to the ground.
2. He says Caleb, a woman is like a rose, if you treat her right she will bloom, and if you dont, she will wilt.
3. He says you have to study your wife (insert girlfriend here) to know her better, ask her questions, learn her likes and dislikes, give value to her words, thoughts and opinions, and your goal should be to one day have a docterate degree in studying and knowing your wife...
Women what can we do to help our next marriage survive and to protect other's marriages?
1. Dress like a stripper only in front of your husband and no one elses...LOL making light here but I think we women know that even if we have a good body, it is to be shown to our husband in a sexy way often, but if you dont, keep that body dressed modestly until your wedding night:)
2. Prepare to respect and honor your future husband even when he doesnt deserve it, compliment him, point out his strengths, tell him he is a good man, tell him you need his leadership in the area of Bible studies for you and your family. Make him know without one question that he is the first man in your life after Jesus:)
3. Communicate your needs amd kids needs with kindness and love.
4. Remember that you are a Princess of the Kingdom of Heaven and when Jesus talked about women and to women, he shocked people because the culture of that time saw women as nothing but property, we are not property we are precious gifts to the men in our lives as daughters, sisters, friends, mothers, aunts, nieces, and servants of Christ. We should be treated as such and if men are not, we need to tell them in love and kindness. Abuse is never to be tolerated and you are not helping a man who you allow to abuse you, you are showing him that it is ok, get help from a Domestic Violence SHelter Please if you are being physically abused and if you are being emotionally and verbally abused get help in the form of a Pastor or counselor. If the Pastor condones the abuse, find another Pastor!! :angel:
5. Love Jesus above all else and seek him in Prayer in your relationship now if it is before marriage as to who you should marry, and see how God moves, if he moves a man a way from you please see that He is protecting the both of you, if he moves a man toward you, take the time to check him out and get to know him to see if he is a good Godly man for real.
Pray Pray PRay and when you marry, pray for your husband and his Loving Leadership that it would not be cruel or harsh to you and children. Pray against spiritual attacks from Satan and above all enjoy your man, he is a lovely strong, tender, but warrior for Jesus, delight in his smile, his words, his touch and protect his heart as you would your own...:angel:
Well, LTM, that poses an interesting question ... are women, in general, to be the help-meets to all men or do they only have authority with their husbands?
I'm not sure another woman telling men how they are falling short would be taken as anything more than brow-beating and not helpful... and dismissed as coming from a cranky abandoned witch who is just bitter!
However, another man stepping up to the challenge, setting the example, and exhorting his brothers to step up to the challenge can be a dynamic, powerful, faith-lifting challenge that would be much more motivating and effective, I would think!
So in that way, I will be a help-meet to my brother...
Men are responsible for keeping their home together after marriage. If a woman wants to leave him, then not much can be done but prayer and hope she doesnt. If the woman has an affair biblically the man has a Biblical reason for divorce.
Often times men do not choose spouses according the the Scripture, equally yoked. Because many men are Not following Christ when they marry.
"Listening to our wives then listening to our ego and pride."
It's more important to be egotistical than to be kind and empathetic? That's not biblical. You might have switched the order there :stop:
At the end of the day, if man treated woman as man would like to be treated, the majority of marriages would be fine. Instead man treats woman how man wants to treat woman out of a disillusioned sense of superiority and sexism, and lo and behold women don't like that. Woman finds out man expects more than he is willing to give and she moves on... to the surprise of nobody.
You want your wife to obey you? Then obey your wife.
You want your wife to be sympathetic to your problems? Be sympathetic to hers.
You want your wife to be more energetic about your interests? Then be more energetic about her interests.
You want your wife to express her love for you more? Then express your love for her more.
MIthridates... so beautifully written and said, we women, we sin too and we are not always going to do what God wants but I think what you are describing is loving and Godly leadership in the Home.
I heard once that taking leadership means taking more blame and less credit then you deserve.
I know in my abusive marriage, it would have been so wonderful to be treated in they way you described above:) Thankyou brother...good to know men like you are out there:)
If you read my post again I encourage a woman to challenge other women and not the men.
Mirt,
If you read my post again the word then is there. The other things I dont remember saying but you are reading into my post if you have a specific question of what I posted please copy and paste with quotes so I can know specifically what you are referring too.
Princess,
A movie is not the truth of Gods word just a movie.
