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How Clean IS your Cup?
Posted : 28 Oct, 2011 11:47 PM

HEY!



Not sure if we are aware but We need to have our CUP CLEAN. BEFORE we can have it filled.



"What in the WORLD are you talking about?"



Well Glad you asked,



Matt 23:25; Luke 11:39; Prov. 25:4; Isaiah 66:20; 2 Tim 2:21; Hebrews 9:21



ALL talk about CLEANING your cup, and removing ALL the impurites INSIDE YOU so that JESUS via the holy spirit doesnt live in a defiled temple.



"What in the WORLD are you talking about!?"



Ok, maybe im not being concise enough and to the point.



HERE

I will share some stuff with everyone. Take the time to watch ALL the videos on this page. there arent very Long and i belive everyone should watch them. :) Jesus bless you



http://www.fellowshipofthemartyrs.com/audio-and-video/66-cup-model/196-all-about-the-qcup-modelq

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Posted : 30 Oct, 2011 06:38 AM

I had listened to about 2 minutes of this babble,when i was just hearing about what 'YOU' are to be doing.



Yet this same person was saying that 'YOU' are the enemey of GOD.



Wow,too much nonsense to be able to listen any more.



He talks about righteousness,and holiness as the result of 'YOU' removing 'ALL' of the sin from your life.



I guess the 'IMPUTED RIGHTEOUNESS,AND HOLINESS' of YESHUA is not 'ENOUGH'



'YOU',need your 'OWN RIGTHOEUSNESS',and 'YOUR OWN HOLINESS',because Yeshuas' is not good enough.





I want to stay as far away from this so called thing you want everyone to be listening to.



To the writer of this post:

If you are believeing what is contained in this video,then you need to Repent,believe the Gosple.





Shalom

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How Clean IS your Cup?
Posted : 30 Oct, 2011 11:30 PM

Oh so your goign to live your life dissobeying Jesus?







He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus 2 Thessalonians 1:8



is anything imputed to you if you are filled with sin?



if you havent repented, and live a holy life unto the lord you really expect to See him?



Do you KNOW Jesus. Because KNOWING Jesus is eternal life.



Who lied to you and said you surely shall not die?

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Posted : 30 Oct, 2011 11:38 PM

And you are the enemy of GOd. if GOD says deny self. and you dont. Then you STAY his enemy. There are only TWO that can be your master. either JESUS CHRIST is your LORD or SIN is your lord and if SIN is your LORD then you have a problem. if JESUS is your lord then you are focused on ceasign from YOUR works.



The one who bleogns to JESUS a SON of GOD is led by the spirit and the spirit leads one to put to death the deeds of the flesh. if your DEEDS of the flesh are still evident then SOMEOEN is not walkig in the spirit.



Somewhere along the liens you develpoed an idol inyour heart, received a stumblign of iniquity in frotn of your face, and are now blind.(Ezekiel 14:3)



YOu think you are Rich and in need of nothing but you are poor blind and naked and in need to buy Gold refined in the fire before its too late.





I would really like it if someoen who "oposed somthing" watch ALL of it before makign any judgments...but sicne you seem to love judgments...i dont thin that will be you. Hopefulyl someoen else will indeed watch all videos. They will help SOME understadn a few thigns better

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Posted : 4 Nov, 2011 09:58 AM

:applause:...GOOD Post RK...you already know thats how some people respond to such...they don't investigate and verify like the Brereans...Ifin they don't "like" it..they turn away and make comments in a negative fashion...which verifys thier attitude of un-teachableness...I wasnt able to watch the video but do understand the question of "How Clean is your Cup ?"...as Jesus said....



Matthew 23:25~ "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

Matthew 23:26~ Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.

Luke 11:39~ And the Lord said unto him, Now do ye Pharisees make clean the outside of the cup and the platter; but your inward part is full of ravening and wickedness.

1 Corinthians 10:21~ Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils."



Be Blessed and hava a Blessed weekend Kidlet...xo

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How Clean IS your Cup?
Posted : 6 Nov, 2011 05:05 PM

@rfk:



Whose rigtheousness are you trusting,yours or Yeshuas.



Whose Holiness are you trusting in,yours or Yeshuas?



Whose Sanctification are you trusting in,yours or Yeshuas?



Who are you trusting in to Justify you,Are you trusting in how you live your life;

Or are you trusting in How Yeshua lived His life.



How clean is my cup,My cup is not what i drink from.

I drink from the cup Yeshua has in His hand.



I wonder who has been lying to you,that you should not be trusting Yeshua to being Righteous,Holy,and Sanctified on your behalf.



Pro_16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.



Mat_6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and yourself / mammon.





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Posted : 6 Nov, 2011 06:13 PM

How Clean IS your Cup?

Posted : 28 Oct, 2011 11:47 PM



HEY!



Not sure if we are aware but We need to have our CUP CLEAN. BEFORE we can have it filled.



"What in the WORLD are you talking about?"



Well Glad you asked,



Matt 23:25; Luke 11:39; Prov. 25:4; Isaiah 66:20; 2 Tim 2:21; Hebrews 9:21



ALL talk about CLEANING your cup, and removing ALL the impurites INSIDE YOU so that JESUS via the holy spirit doesnt live in a defiled temple.







"What in the WORLD are you talking about!?"







Ok, maybe im not being concise enough and to the point.







HERE



I will share some stuff with everyone. Take the time to watch ALL the videos on this page. there arent very Long and i belive everyone should watch them. :) Jesus bless you





@RFK



RFK says;



Not sure if we are aware but We need to have our CUP CLEAN. BEFORE we can have it filled.



"What in the WORLD are you talking about?"



Well Glad you asked,



Matt 23:25; Luke 11:39;





Me:

Did you 'EVER ACTUALLY READ THESE TWO SCRIPTURE' according to their context.



Context,what is 'CONTEXT'.

You say,i was actually supposed to read the Scripture,not just have someone tell me what the Scriptures say.



Oh,i colud not just read a Commie-tary,or just copy and paste an answer.



Let us look at the Matthew and Luke Scriptures you have ,in order to see who Yeshua is actually talking with.







Remember the first htings about Biblical interpretation,

is 'CONTEXT'!!!!!!!!



Mat 23:23 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithes of mint and dill and cummin, and you have left aside the weightier matters of the Law: judgment, and mercy, and faith. It was right to do these, and not to have left those aside.

Mat 23:24 Blind guides, straining out the gnat, but swallowing the camel!

Mat 23:25 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you cleanse the outside of the cup and of the dish, but within they are full of robbery and excess.

Mat 23:26 Blind Pharisee! First cleanse the inside of the cup and of the dish, that the outside of them may become clean also.

Mat 23:27 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitened graves which outwardly indeed appear beautiful, but within are full of bones of the dead, and of all uncleanness.

Mat 23:28 So you also indeed outwardly appear righteous to men, but within are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.

Mat 23:29 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you build the tombs of the prophets, and adorn the tombs of the righteous.

Mat 23:30 And you say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.

Mat 23:31 So you witness to yourselves that you are the sons of those who murdered the prophets.

Mat 23:32 And you fill up the measure of your fathers.

Mat 23:33 Serpents! Offspring of vipers! How shall you escape the judgment of Hell?

Mat 23:34 Because of this, behold, I send to you prophets and wise ones and scribes. And some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will flog in your synagogues and will persecute from city to city;

Mat 23:35 so that should come on you all the righteous blood poured out on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah the son of Berechiah whom you murdered between the Holy Place and the altar.

Mat 23:36 Truly I say to you, All these things will come on this generation.



WHO,Is Yeshua 'REBUKING' in the following Scriptures,His Disciples;

NO WAY,The 'PHARISEES'



Now let us also look into the Scripture from Luke.



Remember 'CONTEXT' hahahahahahaha.



Luk 11:37 And as He was speaking, a certain Pharisee asked Him that He would dine with him. And going in, He reclined.

Luk 11:38 But watching, the Pharisee marveled that He did not first wash before the dinner.

Luk 11:39 But the Lord said to him, Now you Pharisees cleanse the outside of the cup and of the dish, but your inside is full of robbery and evil.

Luk 11:40 Fools! Did not He who made the outside also make the inside?

Luk 11:41 But give alms of the things which are within, and behold, all things are clean to you.

Luk 11:42 But woe to you, Pharisees, for you pay tithes of the mint, and the rue, and every plant, and pass by the judgment and the love of God. It was right to do these things, but not to leave aside those.

Luk 11:43 Woe to you, Pharisees! For you love the chief seat in the synagogues and the greetings in the marketplaces.

Luk 11:44 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees! Hypocrites! For you are as the unseen tombs, and the men walking above do not know.

Luk 11:45 And answering, one of the lawyers said to Him, Teacher, saying these things you also insult us.

Luk 11:46 And He said, Woe to you also, lawyers! Because you burden men with burdens hard to bear, and you yourselves do not touch the burdens with one of your fingers.

Luk 11:47 Woe to you! Because you build the tombs of the prophets, and your fathers killed them.



Again,who is Yeshua 'REBUKING,His Discples;

NO WAY,

Yeshua is 'REBUKING' the PHARISEES,and the LAWYERS.





Pro 25:4 Take away the dross from the silver, and a vessel of the refiner's shall appear.



In this Scripture the dross are the impurities which occur naturally in silver,and gold angwith a host of other metals.



These metals are heated to their melting point,then a ladle or something else is used to scoop off the dross.

This process is repeated until the dross has ben removed.



How does one know when he dross has ben removed,they can see their reflection in the melted metal.



Question:

Does the metal put itself into the fire in order to be refined?

Does the metal draw off its own dross?

Does the refined metal look to see its own reflection?

No,there is someone outside of the metal doing this work.



Now how about yourself.

Are you doing this work to yourself,or is their someone outside and inside of you doing the work?



Let us continue:



Isa 66:20 And they shall bring all your brothers out of all nations, an offering to Jehovah, on horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and on mules, and on camels, to My holy mountain Jerusalem, says Jehovah; as the sons of Israel bring the offering in a clean vessel to the house of Jehovah.

Isa 66:21 And I will also take some of them for the priests, for the Levites, says Jehovah.



RFK;Do you understand the OFFERINGS YHWH required at the hands of Israel.

Please look them up,and see that all of the OFFERINGS required have been fulfilled,filled-up,completed,accomplished,

in YESHUA.



2Ti 2:20 But in a great house not only are there vessels of gold and silver, but also of wood and of earth, and some to honor and some to dishonor.

2Ti 2:21 Then if anyone purifies himself from these, he will be a vessel to honor, having been sanctified and made useful to the Master, having been prepared to every good work.

2Ti 2:22 But flee youthful lusts and pursue righteousness, faith, love, peace, with the ones calling on the Lord out of a pure heart.

2Ti 2:23 But refuse the foolish and uninstructed questionings, knowing that they generate quarrels.



RF:

Have 'YOU' Completely cleansed yourself of the above,if not then according to you,

You are not a vessel to be used in the Masters Hand.



RFK:

Where is your 'CONTEXT' for the following Scripture,I copy and pasted 3 trasnslations.



KJV:

Heb 9:21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.



Literal translation:

Heb 9:21 And he likewise sprinkled both the tabernacle and all the service vessels with the blood.



Youngs Literal Translation:

Heb 9:21 and both the tabernacle and all the vessels of the service with blood in like manner he did sprinkle,



RFK,you have not shown from the Scriptures posted that you have any understanding of the Grace of GOD in Yeshua.



You have shown that you are probably at best a 'FUNDEMENTALIST BAPTIST' ALSO KNOWN AS 'fundies'.



At worst you are an unbeliever 'TRYING' to gain the acceptance of YHWH,by your onw 'works of righteousness';

instead of trusting Yeshuas rigthteouness 'IMPTUED' to you as you trust Yeshua to be saving you from the wrath of GOD against your sin(s).



I hope you are trusting YESHUA.



Shalom

Me



PS:

What is the purpose of the 'NEW CREATION',IF you can cleanse yourself completely?



Also,then 'WHY WOULD YOU NEED YESHUA' !

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Posted : 7 Nov, 2011 06:59 PM

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He who Does Righteousness IS righteous.





... To "do" righteousness is IMPOSSIBLE with out JESUS.



So, ARE YOU RIGHTEOUS? you darn well better be. Because the UNRIGHTEOUS are thrown to the fire.





This seems liek a running idea the LORD is giving me today, he told me to give this message to someone else today now he wants you guys readign this to hear it.







MOSES wrote Numbers. In Numbers 12:3 , Moses talkign in third person about himself said "Moses was the MOST humble person of the face of the earth"



To most that would sound PRIDEFULL arrogant, But MOESES was moved and led by the SPirit to speak 100% truth.



So Moses HAD to speak Truth, adn the TRUTH was that MOSES was the MOST humble MAN on the EARTH.



When you are LED by the SPIRIT of TRUTH you can NOT do anythig nBUT truth, you can not SPEAK anything but Truth, and you cant TOLLERATE anythign BUT truth. And the TRUTH is that THOSE who are to walk in JESUS CHRIST WILL BE RIGHTEOUS and what is NOT righteosu will drop to there knees and BEG CHRIST TO CUT HACK, CHOP ,RIP, SHREAD, AND ELIMINATE ALL THAT IS NOT TRUTH AND LOVE AND HOLY.





Its nothing you do with your actions it YOU denyign YOUR ACTIONS.







JESUS said BE HOLY LIKE GOD. JEUSUS SAID BE RIGHTEOUS AND SEEK FIRST THE KINGDOM ADN RIGHTREOSUNESS...





that NEEDS to be what we seek out for ourself. If we are not Craving, hungering, and thirsting for righteousness, and SEEKING that above ALL then we do NOT KNOW JESUS. And TO KNOW JESUS is Eternal life.



LOVE, TRUTH, HOLYNESS, RIGHTEOUSNES is what WE are SUPSOED TO BE...we are the BODY of JESUS CHRIST and IN CHRIST there IS NO SIN.





So you BETTER make sure every little bit and part of you is IN CHRIST and if you see somthgi nis comprimising, if you see sotmhig nis Worldly or Selfish, then its up to YOU to use YOUR WILL and HUMBLE SELF BEFORE THE MASTER AND BEG HIM TO RIP SHREAD ADN ELIMITATE ALL EVIL AND SIN FROM YOU



WE are, individually and as a corperate body, Supised to be the BRIDE of JESUS. and if JESUS is TRUTH, LIFE, HOLYNESS, RIGHTEOSUNESS, and we are to be ONE(Covenant/mariage) WIth HIM..then we BETTER have the FRUIT of that UNION. We BETTER BE his mouth peice, and WE BETTER KNOW IT!!!



Otherwise you have a false security. IF you are breakign the UNION the covenat the mariage WITH JESUS...that makes you one who CHEATS on their husband. It makes you a w h o r e. A Harlot. And there is only ONE in all esecen that we can CHEAT on JESUS with...and that is SATAN.



SO you break covenant, maraige with JESUS and sin, or live selfishly and DONT WLAK in ALL truth you are havign UNION with the DEVIL. Think about it.





SO you BETTER be righteous, you BETTER make every strivign effort to enter CHRISTS rest(hebres says STRIVE to enter) We STIVE to enter GODS sabbath rest(IN CHRIST) by DENYING SELF DAILY...SLEF needs to go out the WIndow...So that means ALL Falsehood, ALL lack of LOVE....ALL EVIL adn SIN needs to be eleiminated Moses Called himself the MSOT Humble man in the WORLD.





and he HAD to say it, he LOVED to say it, becasue it was ABSOLUTELY TRUE. WE ARE IN CHRIST and suposedly LED by the SPIRIT of TRUTH. So its UP TO YOU if you want to be apart of JESUS its up to YOU if you want to obey him and be HOLY adn BE RIGHTEOUS The SPIRIT is a gentleman and will not force you. So Are YOU RIGHTEOUS? I



if you say YOU are in Christ Jesus(with a new mind, a new heart, and a new spirit)



and if YOU say YOU are the Righteosuness of GOD(2 Corinthians 5:21)



But then you say "you righteosuness is filthy rags" you ARE in essence calling the Grace and Holyness of GOD filthy rags. OR you are speakign Truth, and you are NOT IN CHRIST.

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Posted : 7 Nov, 2011 07:18 PM

And yes the RIGHTEOUSNESS of the PHARESIES was a white washed tomb on the outside, but inside was fileld with deadmens bones







ARe YOU One of them? DOES your righteousness exeed that of the pharesees?



it BETTER if you are IN(ABIDING) JESUS. Becasue the SPIRIT leads one to put to DEATH the deeds of the FLESH, its nothing we do, But its somthig nwE need to humble ourselves to receie humblign ourselves before JEsus and and beggign hi mto make us righteosu. its ALL JESUS, but then we ARE righteous, and it shows...adn the oens who are UNRightoeus will hate you, WHY? becasue JESUS is in you and reflected through you.



If JESUS is not there then this message will make you FURRIOUS. If The HOLY SPirit is allready quenched, and the fire GOne, then thsi message will infuriate you.





But if this convicts you, of GODS judgment, of SIN, and of RIGHTEOUSNESS...then The HOYL SPIRIT is speaking to you.





The SPIRIT is telling HIS CHIDLREN to come out of Bablyon(lies/confuison/unrighteousness) and those who DONT Are a part of the Great HARLOT. the SPIRIT is telling HIS CHILDREN to REPENT. Thats the theme of Revelation REPENT, be righteous...





out of the seven chruches....2 were where they should be...4 were unrighteous in certain areas and NEEDED TO REPENT



and ONE chruch though they were Rich and in need of NOTHING, Yet they were not even The LORDS...they were BLIND NAKED AND POOR, and needed to buy Gold refined in Fire.





WHICH one do you fall into? MAKE SURE oy are one of the RIGHTEOUS CHRUCHES...if you arent you have the CHANCE to REPENT and be righteous...and if you are the luke warm, church who is about to be vomited...Then SEEK THE LROD FOR HIM TO SHOW YOU WHICH ONE YOU ARE





He WILL...it might HURT, REALL BAD....but Truth Hurts. and Truth WILL set you free, and the one set free will be FREE INDEED.

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Posted : 8 Nov, 2011 12:07 PM

RKF says:

ALL talk about CLEANING your cup, and removing ALL the impurites INSIDE YOU so that JESUS via the holy spirit doesnt live in a defiled temple.





Me

Here is the Scriptures,the Word of YHWH,as spoken by the empowerment of the Holy Spirit through the Apostle Paul.



1Ti_1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.



Paul is saying that He currently,presently as he was writing this Scripture

He is / was 'CHIEF SINNER'



How about you RKF,

Are you 'PRESENTLY CHIEF SINNER'?



Shalom

Me

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Posted : 8 Nov, 2011 03:20 PM

Are you 'PRESENTLY CHIEF SINNER'?



*** How Clean IS your Cup George ? I believe you can wear that Title 'PRESENTLY CHIEF SINNER' quite PROUDLY George...:laugh:..your Negativity towards RK's post of Truth is the Proof in the Fruit Pudding...so...to...speak...Be Blessed you Grotchidy ole trucker...xo

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