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Are the roles reversing?
Posted : 5 Dec, 2009 08:45 AM

I very recently started a thread in the "Ask a Guy" section titled Should a woman approach a man. As expected i received the traditional answer. After reading the replies, and responding to them i decided to google this question.



What i found is that the traditional answer was given less (by far) then the 'modern' view of a man initiating the chase.



IMO, the man should be the one to verbally initiates a romantic relationship, but as far as friendship is concerned i believe it is a free for all.



In reading through some of the discussions, i found it somewhat disturbing to that women display the qualities that (imo) makes a man! Men are supposed to be hunters, but women are out there with spares and clubs, hitting men over the head and dragging them back to the cave! (maybe a bit of an exaggeration)



The education we receive, as it relates to social interactions, romantic etc from the social climate in which we live (feminism esp.) is radically shaping our romantic realities.



Thus my question is; Should Christians conform to new social standards?

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Posted : 6 Dec, 2009 02:40 PM

It's too late, we already are.



I can't count the number of profiles I've read where the woman is already calling the shots. She wants to do missions, or she's got her second PhD and working on a third, or she's a doctor or something. If that's what they want to do, more power to them. But how do they expect to fit a guy into their plans, let alone a traditional guy who expects to be the breadwinner and wants a wife and mother for his kids? How can the 'liberated' woman make a home, when she's already so busy outside it?



Many women have bought into the whole feminism lie that she can have it all at least a little. What happened to being a help meet for her husband? What happened to the guy setting the direction for the family? I know many guys have bailed out on their God-given place too, so maybe the ladies are just following the self-involved lead?



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Posted : 7 Dec, 2009 12:32 AM

Oldfashioned:



Is it essential that a woman is the homemaker?

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Posted : 7 Dec, 2009 07:48 AM

Yes.

The wife is the one equipped by God to have children and provide much of what they need to get started in life. She is the one to create the oasis of beauty and peace that her husband needs to be rested and refreshed for the next day. The husband shields and protects and provides the shell and the wife fills the shell with life and warmth and color.

I think the 'equality' our culture pursues has done a lot to destroy the home and family. It is a lie that a woman, or a man, can have it all.

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Posted : 7 Dec, 2009 02:03 PM

hey Oldfashioned ,



That is something to chew on, very interesting.

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Posted : 10 Dec, 2009 07:53 PM

I agree with oldfashioned.



Nowadays its harder to approach a woman because you just don't know if they are completely independent or just flat out liberal. I could imagine before all the liberal movements, roles in society were more defined, thus easier for men.

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Posted : 11 Dec, 2009 09:01 AM

I don't mind a woman approach me. that tells me that she is real with herself by being honest. I do have the guts to say hi, how are you doing? so that's not an issue...



Hmmm interesting posts. Here is what the bible says.



Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.



Ephesians 5:22-24



However all Men of Virtue who are reading this, there's a catch.



Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her. to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.



Ephesians 5:25-28



Saint Paul never got married nor I do not want to get married but he got mad skills. Most Def I agree with him. We may be the dominant role of the household but it doesn't give us the right to treat our wives badly. Then what's the point of marriage, you know?

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Posted : 11 Dec, 2009 09:22 AM

@Old fashioned....You have some interesting stuff to say on women getting her advance degrees, yada yada yada; yes much respect to women who are doing something in their lives.



However several things come to mind. A scenario for myself. I do want her to work but since I'm against daycare, babysitters ,etc I want her to stay home with them until they can go to school. Two paychecks are better than one but the safety of my kids are a top priority.



I think it's a good idea not to rush into things so you can discuss these kind of things beforehand.

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Posted : 31 Dec, 2009 11:16 PM

What I have noticed in my experience is that if a guy visibly expels any energy trying to "pursue" a girl, she sees him as a "creeper". I struggle with apprehension quite a bit. Last year, I met a girl at a campus crusade meeting and we talked several times. After several conversations, she made a comment about her feeling "ugly" and I told her that that was ridiculous, that she was beautiful. Immediately she drew away and began referring to me as "creepy".



I know I need to be more straightforward with girls...however, I feel that if I do, the given girl's going to look at me a like a freak. So I generally don't do anything and just miss out. :-

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Posted : 4 Jan, 2010 03:29 AM

I thnk the roles have reversed alot. But also i think (and am now seeing) that age has something to do with it. Generally when women get older they don't see it as 'creepy'. It's actually sexy. Most women i've met my age say it's great because they know that the guy just might be interested. Interesting topic.

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Posted : 9 Jan, 2010 01:31 PM

Hello, I wasn't sure what you meant. Do you think its not good that a lady says hi to a guy first. Cos I do that and I do believe in the traditional way of doing things.

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