Author	Thread: Fred Phelps' strong stand against gays, and immorality
OhZone View Profile History	Fred Phelps' strong stand against gays, and immorality Posted : 30 Jun, 2012 12:11 PM Fred Phelps and his Westboro Baptist Church in Kansas are the group that protests at the funeral services of fallen American servicemen. You've probably seen the images of the Westboro group holding signs stating their position against homosexuality, immorality, etc. and calling people to God. What are your opinions? If you don't think homosexuality, abortion, premartial sex, etc. are right in the eyes of God, should you post signs stating so? There are Christians who have killed abortion doctors, bombed abortion clinics, etc. are they justified in doing this in the name of God? Thank you. O3 Post Reply
dtroftheking View Profile History	Fred Phelps' strong stand against gays, and immorality Posted : 1 Jul, 2012 07:04 AM When I read the bible about homosexuality it always has a list of other sins next to it.... Can any of us say we are without sin? Did we come to the Lord by being beaten in the head with a bible or someone judging us without mercy? Did the person who led us to the Lord use violence and anger to show us how much God loves us? Did God give us the job of the Holy Spirit? Just a sinner saved by AMAZING GRACE who yes even as a believer in Jesus Christ still sins and grieves his heart daily thank God he died for me so that God can see me as clean and not like the filthy rag that I am.......... I praise my King of Kings!!! LisaRenee Post Reply
View Profile History	Fred Phelps' strong stand against gays, and immorality Posted : 1 Jul, 2012 12:41 PM In 1 Corinthians 5:12 Paul tells us that it is not our place to judge those outside the church. That is to be left up to God. There s enough going on within the church to worry about. Post Reply
dtroftheking View Profile History	Fred Phelps' strong stand against gays, and immorality Posted : 1 Jul, 2012 03:25 PM Amen! Post Reply
teach_ib View Profile History	Fred Phelps' strong stand against gays, and immorality Posted : 1 Jul, 2012 07:16 PM As Christians, we need to love the sinner and work to get them to understand their sins and the need for salvation. For those Christians who have strayed from the Christian walk, it is our duty to help them see what they are doing wrong. I would hope if I strayed in my walk another Christian would come to me and show me how I am not walking the Christian walk. The method some "Christians" use to make their points is not the real Christian way. What the Westboro church does is wrong for a number of reasons. Anti-abortionists that blow up clinics or kill doctors are wrong. Committing sin is never right. Post Reply
dtroftheking View Profile History	Fred Phelps' strong stand against gays, and immorality Posted : 2 Jul, 2012 06:44 AM I think of the The Woman at the Well (John 4:1-42) Post Reply
teach_ib View Profile History	Fred Phelps' strong stand against gays, and immorality Posted : 2 Jul, 2012 05:13 PM Yes, Jesus quickly pointed out her sin...told all she had ever done as only He could do. Post Reply
View Profile History	Fred Phelps' strong stand against gays, and immorality Posted : 3 Jul, 2012 06:03 AM I'm pretty sure it's unanimously accepted that this group is a cult and absolutely insane. Debating the validity of such a group is like debating the sincere threat that Voldemort poses to the Muggle world right now. Not even a thing. Not worth serious discussion which gives them credibility they just don't deserve. Post Reply
View Profile History	Fred Phelps' strong stand against gays, and immorality Posted : 13 Jul, 2012 05:32 PM teach_ib Great Response I would like to add, all Unrighteousness is sin. That is what the Scripture says. Post Reply
View Profile History	Fred Phelps' strong stand against gays, and immorality Posted : 17 Jul, 2012 01:08 PM Ima not into "Picketing"..holding up signs with a view point or my opinion on it...He can stand strong on the Word of GOD and that all he needs...IMHO... All I know and share with folks is GOD destroyed an intire city because of immorality...homo~sexuality...etc... My opinions dont mean squat...however...GOD's opinon and perspective is enough for me to understand HE dont be liking it !!!.... If ya dont "Stand Strong" in GOD~Jesus~HolySpirit...then ya "With Stand" for Anything...:winksmile:...xo Post Reply
Breadman2008 View Profile History	Fred Phelps' strong stand against gays, and immorality Posted : 9 Sep, 2012 09:33 PM I have no protest against carrying signs. Its the message they carry that I would argue against. There is something Christians need to say to Gays & to those women who consider having abortions. The Message we need to preach to them is our LOVE for them. For Christians to stand on streets & tell everyone around that they ARE SINNING stinks of PHARISEEISM. We are no better than the religious leaders of Jesus day who wore their Righteousness like A DRESS SUIT. IF THE MEMBERSHIP OF WESTBORO CHURCH ARE REALLY CHRISTIAN then the best thing the men can offer is to help gays leave their lifestyle through programs like Celebrate Recovery or other Christian 12 steps & the women could offer to help in Crisis Pregnancy centres & Adoption Facilities. If the Pastor wants to lead his sheep down the path they are on now I would urge the leadership of the Demonination he is a part of to remove him from the pulpit.Not only is he leading his people down a wrong path, he is also destroying any good witness to the City of Westboro but any surrounding city as well. Last but not least is the protests at Military Funerals.Whether we agree with what our Government does in regards to wars & the young men who fight in them, we as citizens of a country must follow their leadership. We may not like it but God has put them in Authority over us. Young men who gave their lives for our Freedom & Security are TRUE HEROES. ANYONE WHO WOULD SHOW UP AT THEIR FUNERAL TO PROTEST IT HAS NO LOVE OR RESPECT FOR THEM. IF THEY WANT TO PROTEST THE GOVERNMENT FOR SENDING THEM TO A WAR ZONE THEY SHOULD WRITE THEIR CONGRESSMAN OR SENATOR OR EVEN THE PRESIDENT. TO SHOW UP AT A HEROES FUNERAL& PROTEST IT IS THE MOST SCORNFUL ACTION A CHRISTIAN CAN DO TO SOMEONE WHO DIED FOR OUR FREEDOM. If you protestors are one of my brethen in Christ I have only one word for you: REPENT. i HAVE NO DOUBT GOD IS ALREADY FIGHTING AGAINST YOU WITH THE SWORD OF HIS MOUTH Given that this sin is PUBLIC SIN the outcome of this story will be seen in the news media & in the papers & on the internet. So Pastor Phelps I would urge you to Change Direction & Apologize to the Gays & to the Fallen Servicemen Families you have offended PUBLICALLY ASAP.OTHERWISE YOU CAN EXPECT ONE MAJOR BACKLASH NOT ONLY FROM THE PEOPLE INVOLVED BUT ALSO FROM FELLOW CHRISTIANS TOO SUBMITTED BY BREADMAN2008 Post Reply