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It's Time to Get Serious People
Posted : 13 Dec, 2010 05:27 PM

I love you, so I'm going to tell you some hard truth, as it is written "Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him. (Leviticus 19:17, KJV)"



My profile was getting crowded with much of this, so I'm putting it here instead for those who are truly seeking, who are really searching for G-d's Will. I don't know everything. Far from it. But this I do know: Most professing Christians are not going to make it. Sadly.



As I'm entering this, one of the random women suggestions above, which CDfF.com has delivered, is a picture not of a woman, but of a black square instead, which contains the words "ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE ME". How appropriate. Indeed, this is the prevailing attitude of this wicked generation, who thinks they can live however they like without incurring His Judgment. Most of us will not hear the Truth. The sad fact is that GOD WILL JUDGE YOU if you refuse to repent of your sin. You are supposed to work out your salvation with FEAR and TREMBLING (Philippians 2:12).



Personally, I'm not looking for a Christian woman, at least not what is common among 'Christianity'. I'm looking for a follower of G-d's Messiah, whose priority is truly following Him rather than men; following Christ Jesus by the Spirit of Christ and in accordance with what is written... not a denomination, not a pastor, not the latest teaching, nor your feelings, nor your friends, and certainly not the majority of professing Christians. Christianity is plagued with traditions of men that nullify the commandment of G-d, which Christ Jesus HATES (See Mark 7:7-9). "But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up. (Matthew 15:13, KJV)" To have a hope, we must give Him our lives, and if you've given Him your life, it's no longer yours to do with as you please. It's His.



Most people I come across who profess to be Christians are not really following Christ Jesus. To someone who is really in Messiah, it is very obvious. When you truly step out of the world, it is shocking to see how a part of the world the overwhelming majority of professing Christians are in the world; integral. Unfortunately, though not surprisingly, most professing Christians don't even realize they are not actually following Christ, but the sad truth of the matter is that most professing Christians follow man, and, sadly, are headed straight for destruction as a result. It very well could be that you are just such a person, even likely, so let this be a warning to you if you hear His voice as you read this. The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom (Proverbs 9:10).



The Master says, "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity (ANOMIA; LAWLESSNESS!). (Matthew 7:21-23, KJV)" Not all believers are "saved," despite what man will tell you. As James says, "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? (James 2:19-20, KJV)"



"Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all [ye] workers of ANOMIA. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you [yourselves] thrust out. (Luke 13:23-28, KJV)"



The Master says, "If any will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow ME. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it. (Luke 9:23-24, KJV)" If you really follow him, frankly, you will hardly fit in anywhere. As He says, "Because ANOMIA will abound, the love of many will wax cold. (Matthew 24:12)" "My sheep respond to my voice, and I know who they are. (John 10:27, KJV)" If your goal is to fit in with most Christians and have a nice cozy life --- if your goal is to fit in at the average church --- sorry, you're not really following the Master. It's time to wake up people.



So what's the difference between the real believer and the imposter? We should be in the world, not of the world, set apart by His Spirit, WHOLLY OBEDIENT TO HIS COMMANDMENT. We do not pick and choose which commandments to obey. The soul that abides in sin shall die (Ezekiel 18:20). Unfortunately, most Christians fail to understand what, precisely, sin is. Sin is transgression of the Law (1 John 3:4), as given to Israel by G-d through His humble servant Moses. And it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before G-d, but the doers of the Law will be justified (Romans 2:13). Being Jewish doesn't matter, nor being Gentile; what matters is that you become a new creation in Messiah, who keeps the commandment of G-d (Galatians 6:15, 1 Corinthians 7:19)! The LORD changes not!



Fellowship and worship on the first day of the week if you like, but don't reject the G-d-given 7th day Sabbath, nor His feasts, and stop eating what is not food, stop celebrating pagan festivals. Wives, be reconciled to your husbands or remain alone. Stop believing the lie that G-d's grace means it's okay to sin, or that you cannot sin in Messiah even though you do! Don't be absurd. This passage in John's epistle means you are not in Messiah if you abide in sin! If you are truly in Messiah, you cannot abide sin just as HE CANNOT ABIDE SIN! He who says he abides in Messiah and lives in sin is a liar and the truth is not in him (1 John 2:4)! Don't be deceived. Unless you repent, you will perish (Luke 13:3,5).



Some follow Rome, some follow Luther, some John Calvin... some THINK they follow Paul, but 'Is Christ divided?' as Paul so aptly said (1 Corinthians 1:10-15). Blessed are they, rather, who hear the Word of God and obey (Luke 11:28). Traditions are unacceptable if they nullify the Law of God in any way. THAT is the test. As He said: I have not come to destroy the Law. Whoever breaks one of the least of these instructions will be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven, and unless your righteousness in these matters exceeds that of the scribes and the Pharisees, you certainly will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven (Matthew 5:17-20)! But hey, believe what you will. As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD (Joshua 24:15).



So let's love Him every day with all our hearts, souls, minds, resources, and love our neighbours as ourselves. Interestingly, those two instructions are not found in the Ten Commandments, but elsewhere in the Law; in Deuteronomy and in Leviticus respectively! That fact should speak volumes to you about the accuracy of the common understanding of the words of Jesus ('We must keep the Ten Commandments...'). It's true, but not the way most people mean to say. As it is written, 'The commandment is a lamp and the law is light, and reproofs of instruction are the way of life. (Prov. 6:23)' Do you have one without the other? Or have you not then turned the lamp off??!



So what did Jesus mean when he said the most important commandment of all is 'HEAR O Israel' (Mk. 12). Most professing Christians prefer to quote this occurrence as it appears in Matthew, which leaves this critical demand out. Most, I find, tend to say '...as long as I love God and love my neighbour, it's all good, even if I choose not to live entirely by the Word,' but WHAT IS LOVE? How do we know whether or not we love? The word translated in Mark 12 as HEAR (SHEMA, see Deut. 6, which means HEAR/LISTEN/OBEY) is the key to love. As John says, 'the love of God is that we keep His commandment, and his commandment are not grievous. (1 John 5:3)' And likewise, 'By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and obey his commandment. (1 John 5:2)'



How do we know, then, that a husband loves his wife, and a wife her husband? What about their children? A son his parents? Parents their children? Hopefully you guessed it hopefully... So don't forget SHEMA! When we SHEMA to the best of our ability, we THEREFORE love God and love our neighbour; and you can then know, therefore, that you will love your husband or wife as yourself. If this sounds insane to you, then you haven't yet really met Jesus. Search for him. Search for him with all your heart and you will find him.



And stop following men! Follow Jesus! Meditate on the Scriptures, seeking the illumination that only the Word of G-d can provide by His Spirit, and act on it! Stop paying heed to your frivolous feelings, attributed to the Holy Spirit, that are not consistent with Scripture ('I feel like the Spirit is telling me it is okay to not obey this time...'). The heart is deceitful above all and desparately wicked (Jeremiah 17:9). Test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world (1 John 4:1).



Feel free to message me if you have any questions. G-d willing, He will give me the wisdom to respond appropriately. But please, the above is Scripture. If you don't agree, take it up with Jesus.





P.S. To the divorced on here, I'm curious what you think:



How do you interpret the words of Jesus? ...maybe no one has brought your attention to these words before:



In Luke 16:18 and Matthew 5:32 (see also Mark 10:10), Jesus is recorded as saying he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery. (ESV)



Likewise, in 1 Corinthians 7:11, Jesus says through the Apostle Paul "To the married I give this charge (not I, but the Lord): the wife should not separate from her husband (but if she does, she should remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband), and the husband should not divorce his wife."



Just prior to that, Paul writes the following:



"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral....will inherit the kingdom of God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-10)



I'm just doing the math here. It seems pretty logical to me, but maybe I'm missing something... The LORD says marrying a divorced woman is committing adultery, which is sexual immorality, and Paul warns us that the sexually immoral will not inherit the kingdom of God.



Are you quite sure you want to remarry?



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Posted : 20 Dec, 2010 04:41 PM

I wonder if you are a follower of Fred Phelps? Or perhaps you agree with Darwin Fish?



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Posted : 20 Dec, 2010 04:57 PM

@RidleySeaTurtle:



Did you or did you not say the following?



"Those who have sought a divorce have a justification for it that they may claim. It varies state-to-state. Some states require living apart for a number of months after filing, others require that proof and charges must be filed. Those of us who divorce should be aware that, as with all choices we make, we are willing to assume responsibility for any and all consequences that occur from our actions. A divorce is just like any other choice we make in our life. There are those who don't care, maybe even feel they are "entitled" to divorce. It is legal after all."



Maybe you should be clearer next time, because it sounded like you were saying "Those who have sought a divorce have a justification for it that they may claim. It varies state-to-state..."



My comment was not condescending. I was acknowledging that I do not know what individual cases entail. And here you are again accusing me. You're the one who is looking for a fight here, not me.



And I love those verses you quote, but why do you leave out verses 12 and 13? If you're going to quote Matthew 24:11, you should at least include the result of the teaching of false prophets!



"And because ANOMIA shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. (Matthew 24:12-13, KJV)"



Anomia is lawlessness, as in disobedience to G-d's Law as it is written.



I have treated no one abusively. And I have done neither sign nor wonder, nor have I at any time claimed to be Christ, so please, don't waste our time with false accusations.



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Posted : 20 Dec, 2010 05:01 PM

@RidleySeaTurtle:



I read the Bible and obey the words of Jesus Christ.



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Posted : 20 Dec, 2010 05:10 PM

I think that you are like some children I teach: They plug their ears with their fingers and loudly sing "la, la, la!"



You are reading what you WANT to see, and breaking it down to WHAT you want to criticize. If you truly were reading in love what I wrote, you would know what I am sharing with you and understand how hurtful your usage and interpretations are. You are using scripture in slasher-type fashion.



I agree with the scripture you quote. I believe you are being irresponsible with the application.



Would you feel better if I just wrote chapters and just leave out verses?



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Posted : 20 Dec, 2010 05:13 PM

And I, serious shameful sinner that I am, love the Lord, fail miserably at obeying His Words, and fall at His feet knowing I am not worthy!



I guess you trump me, citizen!



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Posted : 20 Dec, 2010 05:16 PM

Ahhhh...thank you for reading my profile. Gathering ammo? If you need me to fill in any blanks, please ask. I truly enjoy sharing how Christ has shown me His Mercy and Love.



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Posted : 20 Dec, 2010 05:30 PM

Mary the mother of Jesus was with child. Joseph heard this and did not want to make her a public example. he sought to put her away quitely. However, an angel changed his mind.

He wnet ahead and raised her son not his son.

You were set up Law.

The cross set us free from judgement like you claim.

I have in no way been in sin here. You are young and want to disrepect your elders and refuse to be corrected. You claim a knowledge that you use to hurt people. put them down and not uplift them. You are like the blind man and are wondering around confused and unwilling to admit you are in error.

You must admit I set you up. As soon as I saw your post and read it from the beginning I started to set you up.

One post led to the next. You never saw this coming.

Mary was having a child out of wedlock. read the first 4 gospel the pharesses new about this and said something to Jesus about it.

As for the alcohol thing you were also set up. My brother is an alcoholic- how many scriptures speak out against drinking.

I found this out a few months ago and decided to oppose

drinking 100%. as the years go on your views do change.

Jesus never said verse and chapter. He expected you to already know it.

I expected you already to know about mary and alcohol.

You are just an arrogant youth who has no respect for others. maybe somebody else here will point that out to you.

ALSO READ THE RED LETTERS AT THE TOP. THEN THE BLUE ONES.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It says to have fun. People come here to relax not be brow beaten by some know it all. From your very first introduction you were bent on looking for a way to put people down and lift yourself up.

My Jesus died on the cross to forgive me of my sins. You have no knowledge of me and do not know anything about my relationship with God.

The questions asked were to get a response out of you to see where you stand not to be put down.

Come off your cross and behave.

You are rude and disrespectful.

Your language about putting people down is unacceptable.

Dennis



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Posted : 20 Dec, 2010 05:43 PM

Hey lawabider, i'm curious what your take is on these verses and where do we need to draw the line what is our duty in love and what is God's... peace in Christ





Joh 21:20 Peter turned and saw the disciple whom Jesus loved following them, the one who had been reclining at table close to him and had said, "Lord, who is it that is going to betray you?"

21 When Peter saw him, he said to Jesus, "Lord, what about this man?"

22 Jesus said to him, "If it is my will that he remain until I come, what is that to you? You follow me!"

23 So the saying spread abroad among the brothers that this disciple was not to die; yet Jesus did not say to him that he was not to die, but, "If it is my will that he remain until I come, what is that to you?"



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Posted : 20 Dec, 2010 06:14 PM

Lawabider,

If what you say is true ,about what you say I said, then reference it and put it in quotations, if not,then repent. Then since you accused publicly you should repent publicly ....let's see if you practice what you preach. Even now you are condemned by the law!



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Posted : 20 Dec, 2010 06:30 PM

Good night, Gentlemen!

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