Have you been CONDEMMNED by others as having an "UNBIBLICAL DIVORCE" ?
Posted : 2 Feb, 2012 11:28 PM
Thanks to a question about divorce and remarriage posted on another thread, I felt the need to address those on this site who may be suffering from the weight of guilt and condemnation heaped on them because of their reasons for divorce.
I wrote the following article, "The Stone Thrower", based on actual instances that happened on this site. If you are one of those who have been ostracized by others for having an "Unbiblical Divorce," please take the time to read. May it minister to your heart.
The Stone Thrower
I want to touch on a subject today that has long been regarded in Christendom as taboo . . . and that is . . . DIVORCE. Mention that word around some Christians and their hackles suddenly go up on the back of their neck. They pull out their proverbial stones ready to put to death anyone who they think has been un-biblically divorced. And to my shame, I was one of them�a stone thrower.
We all know the story of the woman caught in adultery in John 8:3-11. The scribes and Pharisees (the religious self-righteous) had arrested this woman and dragged her before Jesus. One has to wonder how these Pharisees caught such a woman "in the very act" of adultery. How convenient for them. It's amazing the depths of depravity the self-righteous will sink to in order to defend their religious arguments. Did they have the paparazzi spy on her to get some juicy pictures for the whole world to see?
At any rate, they dragged this poor woman in front of Jesus and proudly proclaimed, "Now Moses, in the law, commanded us that such should be stoned. But what do You say?" (John 8:5)
Zowie!! These men can quote the Word of God . . . at least the parts that suit their fancy.
I like our Lord's reaction. "But Jesus stooped down and wrote on the ground with His finger, as though He did not hear" (John 8:6b).
Don't you just love it when someone ignores you . . . especially when you're trying to win an argument? But the self-righteous rarely lie down without a fight, and those religious Pharisees were determined to prove that they had the "truth." So they continued pestering Jesus, knowing that the Law of Moses was on their side. It's not a good idea to pester Jesus, especially when it comes to "pointing a finger" at someone.
"So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself up and said to them, 'He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.' And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. Then those who heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning from the oldest even to the last. And Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst" (John 8:7-9).
This introductory story of the woman caught in adultery has a purpose: I wanted you to have a glimpse of the mentality of a "stone thrower." They are usually self-righteous, ready to condemn, and can quote the Word of God. Ouch . . . I just described me.
I had a clear cut answer for the reasons one might give to justify divorce which I thought was quite Biblical. And in my mind, there was only one reason . . . "But I say to you, that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except for sexual immorality, causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery" (Matthew 5:32). There you have it�plain and simple. Who could argue with such a statement? It is the Word of God! I thought I had the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth . . . yet the truth is . . . I was ignorant of the ways of God. "For judgment is without mercy to the one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment" (James 2:13).
And it was in my ignorance to God's ways that I threw stones at the divorced ladies on a Christian dating site some time ago. As a widower, I was on this site looking for a prospective wife. I was so appalled at the amount of women who were divorced on this site whose reasons for separating from their husbands did not match my view of scripture. In order to protect myself from these "contaminated souls," I purposely wrote something in my profile for those that I would consider as wife material: "You may be single, widowed, or divorced (must be for Biblical reasons only)."
When I would communicate with these divorced ladies, I would immediately ask them to provide details on the reason for their divorce. If they could not give me an answer of infidelity as the reason for their divorce, then I considered them unmarriageable. Yet God has a way of grabbing His child's attention when that child is in error.
One of the ladies on this dating site told me her story of divorce after I demanded it. Her husband was deep in bondage to pornography and had no interest whatsoever in repentance. The man had not physically hopped into bed with another woman, and so in my self-righteousness, I condemned the poor wife for wanting to opt out on the marriage. And the "stones" that I threw created fresh wounds in her heart while she recounted those painful memories of her husband's infidelity as he lusted after porn. According to Jesus' own words, her husband WAS GUILTY of adultery: "But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart" (Matthew 5:28). I ignored that scripture and concentrated only on Matthew 5:32. She lashed out at me, saying that she was glad Jesus did not condemn her even if I did. I have to admit, I was shaken by her story which moved me to tears.
Then there was another lady whom I demanded to give an account for her divorce. I threw "stones" at her as well when she could not give me a reason of infidelity for her separation. In bitter anger, she struck back at me, stating how her husband had broken her nose and physically abused her. I ignored the scripture which reads, "But God has called us to peace" (1 Corinthians 7:15b) and concentrated again on Matthew 5:32. However, her story bothered me very much just like the other woman's.
I began to seek God earnestly. These were only two of the many ladies who shared with me their heartbreaking stories of divorce. There were so many reasons given for divorce and none of them fell under sexual immorality (fornication) as I saw it. I sincerely asked the Lord to open my eyes. Was there any scriptural evidence to support these women's choices to opt out of a marriage other than infidelity? Yes, there was.
God led me to Matthew 19:3-12. The Pharisees were looking for a reason to trap Jesus in His words. Their previous scheme had not worked with the woman caught in adultery. However, if they could just get Jesus to say something contradictory to the Law of Moses, then they could brand Him as a heretic. So they asked Jesus this question, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for just any reason?" (Matthew 19:3b)
Jesus' answer was, and still is, God's original intention for marriage: "Have you not read . . . the two shall become one flesh? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate" (Matthew 19:5b-6).
The Pharisees did not like His answer. For Jesus had taken them right back to Genesis before there ever was a Moses or a Law of Moses so that they could hear what GOD SAYS about marriage. Yet the stiff-necked Pharisees persisted with another question: "Why then did Moses command to give a certificate of divorce, and to put her away?" (Matthew 19:7)
Jesus responds, "Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so" (Matthew 19:8).
The self-righteous Pharisees were using the Law of Moses as an excuse to bail out on marriages for any flippant reason. And because of this, the Lord had some very strong words for them. "And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery" (Matthew 19:9).
I can just hear the stone throwers shouting, "See, I told you . . . it's right there in the word . . . 'sexual immorality!'"
Wait a minute. Like Paul Harvey, let's hear "the rest of the story" before jumping to any conclusions. After verse 9 comes verse 10. Even Jesus' disciples, which would include us, were amazed at the words of Jesus. "His disciples said to Him, 'If such is the case of the man with his wife, it is better not to marry'" (Matthew 19:10). Yeah, I can see their point. If sexual immorality (fornication) is the only reason for divorce, then perhaps we are better off not getting married.
But look at Jesus' response to his own disciples in verse 11. It stands to reason that if the disciples' statement was true, then Jesus would have said something to affirm it as such. He does not!
"But He said to them, 'All cannot accept this saying, but only those to whom it has been given'" (Matthew 19:11).
What saying? The saying in verse 9 of course. NOT ALL can accept the saying that fornication is the ONLY reason for divorce.
Now notice that Jesus goes on to explain what He meant with the following verse:
"For there are eunuchs who were born thus from their mother's womb, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He who is able to accept it, let him accept it" (Matthew 19:12).
What did Jesus mean by this? He tells us that three different men all became eunuchs for different reasons. One was born a eunuch, another was made a eunuch by men, and still another made himself that way for the kingdom of heaven. They all became eunuchs for different reasons, but who is to say which eunuch is "God approved"? God accepted them all. That's the point!
Likewise, there are many reasons someone might seek a divorce: physical and verbal abuse from a spouse . . . being married to an unbeliever who makes life a literal hell . . . marital unfaithfulness . . . the stress of being married to an alcoholic for 23 years . . . or living with a pornographer who refuses to repent. Which one of these reasons for divorce is "God approved"? That's the point Jesus was making. Just as the eunuchs were acceptable to God regardless of how they became a eunuch, so also is a woman acceptable to God who seeks to be free from an abusive husband, even if infidelity is not involved. You and I cannot see in the heart of that abused person . . . but God can. For God has called them to peace.
And the church has done more harm counselling emotionally and physically battered women to stay in a relationship citing Matthew 5:32 "except for sexual immorality" as the only just cause for divorce. Women have actually committed suicide and murder under the stress of remaining in an abusive situation because their legalistic church counseled them to do so.
You may have heard of the case in the U.S. where a lady killed her husband (a pastor) who had been abusing her for years. God had called her to peace . . . but she never knew it, and one day she snapped. The evidence of abuse was so overwhelming that the courts found this woman not guilty of murder by reason of insanity.
I certainly do not want to imply that people should take their marriage so lightly as to divorce for every whim and fancy. I would not condone that, and neither does the Word of God. Every marriage will have its share of problems which can be worked out with God's help by two committed individuals. Yet there are some women, especially those suffering physical and mental abuse, who have reached the tipping point of no return; and the only thing they can do to preserve their sanity is to get out of that marriage. And ultimately, it is to the Lord they answer to, not you or me. He has called them to peace.
After God opened my eyes to the truth of scripture, I contacted those ladies on the dating site who I had thrown "stones" at and apologized profusely. I was truly grieved that I had been so self-righteous and blind, wounding those precious sisters for whom Christ died.
Now back to the story that I began with. The "stone throwers" had already dropped their rocks and left the scene with a guilty conscience, leaving Jesus alone with the adulterous woman.
"He said to her, 'Woman, where are those accusers of yours? Has no one condemned you?'"
"She said, 'No one, Lord.'"
"And Jesus said to her, 'Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more'" (John 8:10b-11).
HALLELUJAH�MERCY TRIUMPHS OVER JUDGMENT!!!
Blessings in Christ Jesus,
Paul Janz
(All Scripture quotations are taken from the Holy Bible, New King James Version.)
"The Stone Thrower" Copyright � 2010 by Paul Janz.
Have you been CONDEMMNED by others as having an "UNBIBLICAL DIVORCE" ?
Posted : 27 Nov, 2013 07:59 PM
The Pentateuch did not require that a divorced woman and her second husband be put to death, as was the case with adultery. This consideration should lead us to exercise caution before stigmatizing remarriage as adulterous.
Yes, Jesus was clear in what He constituted acceptable grounds for remarriage. In God's eyes, the marriage vows are broken when one spouse commits a sexual sin, which could be while the two are together or while they are separated.
Anyone seeking remarriage after a divorce should prayerfully seek the will of God and be prepared for condemnation for those who believe they have the only understanding of this topic.
Have you been CONDEMMNED by others as having an "UNBIBLICAL DIVORCE" ?
Posted : 27 Nov, 2013 08:06 PM
HJMP,
IWA gave you great counsel. I want to add that from all the studies and teachings I have seen the best is on www.Eliyah.com Divorce and remarriage teaching. This has saved marriages and I use it as a reference when I counsel and also pastors that I have referenced this to are using it now and thanked me for telling them about it for they said it helped them greatly....
Here's some truth:
Yahweh puts believers together and separates them in death. I don't believe he brings unbelievers together I believe lust does and choice. Yet He still has his will when and if these unbelievers become believers as only he can do.....
Have you been CONDEMMNED by others as having an "UNBIBLICAL DIVORCE" ?
Posted : 27 Nov, 2013 08:16 PM
Teach, True that a marriage covenant can be broken while the two are separated. The commandment is to reconcile or live apart sexually chaste.....between believers only...
When someone rebels between believers even while separated and does sexual sin( they will be who will be counted as breaking the covenant) and yet remarries anyway= since stoning isn't done anymore amongst believers it is now a shunning til they repent in order to bring conviction. Also it is merciful because if willlfully carried out they will get a firey judgement.......It's also merciful in the here and now since they choose to rebel anyway they will live in sin for a season but the end will be eternal death.
Have you been CONDEMMNED by others as having an "UNBIBLICAL DIVORCE" ?
Posted : 27 Nov, 2013 08:43 PM
HJMP,
Death ends the covenant. However if someone willfully rebelled against their mate and then the innocent one passed away and both were believers, I don't believe it ends for the guilty party BECAUSE Yahweh all ready freed the innocent one only and the guilty was are ready counted as an adulterer. If the adulterer is still with someone they did adultery with before the others death it's still adultery. However, if the innocent died and the guilty may be able to marry (another believer only) who is also scripturally free to do so..............
As far as if one party between unbelievers remarries someone it gets tricky.................. WHoever committed sexual sin the whole time 1st while separated or divorced would be the adulterer. If the other did they would be a fornicator at that point.
I personally believe only two believer's marriages are binding since Yahweh owns both people by Messiah's blood purchase. Unbelievers are not under his ownership they are the devil's unless they get born again and repent. That being said I believe unbelievers can remarry when they get born again and become a new creature in Messiah because their old life is dead along with it's sins and covenants. Even an unbelieveing adulterer could remarry once born again as far as this goes. I say this in light of all scripture. This is my opinion.
Yet this is not true when two believers and these marriages are the ones that Yahweh is concerned about directly and that he owns therefore. I still believe He mercifully intervenes in unbelievers lives too because of children paying for their unbelieving parent's sins. Yahweh is that cool!!!
Have you been CONDEMMNED by others as having an "UNBIBLICAL DIVORCE" ?
Posted : 28 Nov, 2013 06:35 AM
Thank you Singer4u.....I had always believed that divorced unbelievers, after becoming saved, could remarry of course to another believer! There are many who gruel over this issue, and for not getting understanding, have fallen to harsh stigma and criticism surrounding it.
This thread has been, to say the least, thought provoking, soul searching, yet spiritually enlightening! I want to thank every sister and brother, including of course it's OP, for dealing with this topic that's so controversial! Yes it may have gotten "heated" at varies points, but The Lord did make it clear that His Word of truth must be rightfully divided and that it is a two edged sword. The question is which side of His sword do we as believers want to find ourselves on?
I'll take the side of righteous correction and reproof in Jesus's Name any day(smile)! Stay blessed......Shalom.
"Scripture is Truth...human interpretation of Scripture is not equivalent to the Truth.
If someone posts a verse from the Bible, they have cited the Truth. How one interprets it can make it into something other than the truth.
How we respond to others that we agree or disagree with shows the Autry of the spirit in us. As Christians we should strive to display the fruits of the Holy Spirit even to those who are not in alignment with your interpretation.
Yelling, screaming, ranting, raving, never achieves the goal of persuading someone that you are right. Christians should try to live as Romans 12 describes...and strive to love peaceably with all."
"The argument now is over the speck instead of the overarching issue of the OP...we do not have to completely dissect every word of every verse to understand the truth.
Is divorce allowed? yes.
Is remarriage allowed? Yes, if the divorce is Biblical.
We shouldn't automatically dismiss pr treat someone badly because they were divorced, which is often the case in many churches and by many individuals...no matter the cause of the divorce.
We should be slow to judge and careful with our words and action towards others. When we condemn others we are really condemning ourselves...we are all guilty of some sin, big or small...so we are in reality guilty of them all.
Thankfully God is a forgiving and merciful God, standing ready to forgive us.
"So BobBobbins/IWA or whoever you are, you have ZERO credibility as you have been caught in lies in your identity which makes one question most everything you write other than pure Scripture....and I would look every verse up that you cite for accuracy.
The discussion is over the treatment of people who have been married and their marriage ended in divorce.
Even in your responses Bob/IWA you contradict yourself stating divorce is forbidden based on God hating divorce and then state that Jesus said one could divorce for Biblical reasons. Yes, God hates divorce because divorce is caused by sin. There are Biblical grounds for divorce. No, divorce is not commanded any more than marriage is commanded.
Since we are all guilty of sin, big or small...and lying is a sin, too...we are considered guilty of them all.
We should be careful in how we judge others or condemn for any sin, that is the point of this thread. By jumping to conclusions about people, we often make judgments about them before we have all the facts. One of the points of the stone throwing example Christ gave has to do as much with those who were so quick to judge someone caught in obvious sin that they ignored their own sins."
"I have not lied nor misrepresented myself on this thread or any other thread. If you disagree with the explanations I clearly state are mine and not Scripture that is your choice. How you disagree and present your disagreement is inappropriate for a person who claims he is a Christian.
The Bible is clear on how we are to interact with others, be they brother, sister, or enemy.
I will continue to post Scripture and allow those who read to discern the truth. It is not my words, your words, or any other mere human's words that really make a difference. Feel free to badger me to apologize but I have not lied about or to you.
If you are offended by the Scriptures I post, then your issue is with God, not me. This is not the only thread you have presented a critical attitude towards posting of Scripture.
This is still a Christian website, so Christians should be glad to see Scripture whether they like what it says or not. I much prefer reading Scripture than any man's or woman's interpretation."
Have you been CONDEMMNED by others as having an "UNBIBLICAL DIVORCE" ?
Posted : 29 Nov, 2013 01:59 AM
Thanks HJMP, You stay blessed and have Shalom! Wisdom is the right voice to obey in order to stay on the correct side of Yahweh's 2 edge sword. Well said.............
Have you been CONDEMMNED by others as having an "UNBIBLICAL DIVORCE" ?
Posted : 29 Nov, 2013 05:46 PM
Singer4u says: "I also request that you show myself and every other viewer on this forum where IWA lied about his identity"
IWalkAlone says: "Proven to be a fraud? Really? When was this proven? Lied about my true identity? Really? when did I do this? caught in lies about my identity? Really?
The EVIDENCE:
Posted : 16 Nov, 2013 01:52 PM by GodsJude:
"See what I mean Paul...IWA is actually the Bob Bobbins that posted earlier in your Thread...He got banned a ways back...and true to his nature...he returns under another screen "name" to continue his Hypocritical behavior...its just what he does here"
Posted : 16 Nov, 2013 02:50 PM by IWalk Alone accusing Gods Jude of falsely accusing him of being BobBobbins:
"Jude --You are disruptive and contentious. Please let the men hash out the Scripture.
The Ninth Commandment is found in Exodus 20:16: �You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor"
Posted : 16 Nov, 2013 09:36 PM by Gods Jude:
"IWA...I bear NO False witness about who you were nor who you are...you may deny it all you like...it doesn't make the Truth of my statement any less TRUTHFUL."
Posted : 16 Nov, 2013 09:47 PM by IWalkAlone again denying the accusation that he really is BobBobbins:
"Jude --As far as I am concerned, there is NO truth in you."
Posted : 18 Nov, 2013 10:19 PM by IWalkAlone making an unintended blooper:
"Teach --On Jun 5, 2012, you introduced yourself to me (a complete stranger to you) by calling me a "legalist"
Posted : 19 Nov, 2013 01:53 PM by teach_ib revealing the truth about the man who calls himself IWalkAlone:
"First of all I introduced myself to the thread on that date...you have now confirmed you are the previously banned BobBobbins as IWA was not on the thread at that time"
Posted : 19 Nov, 2013 02:18 PM by IWalkAlone:
"Teach--I have no reservations in saying that I find you to be one of the most openly dishonest people that I have ever dealt with. Anywhere."
Posted: 23 Nov, 2013 10:30 PM by IWalkAlone admitting for the very first time on this site that he is in fact BobBobbins:
"Paul and Teach --Notice that Paul's "evidence" shows me admitting who I am -- not denying it. This was my own public admission. Far from denying it or hiding it, I admit to it myself."
On 19 Nov, 2013 02:18 PM, the man who calls himself IWalkAlone says:
"Teach--I have no reservations in saying that I find you to be one of the most openly dishonest people that I have ever dealt with. Anywhere."
Paul writes: Folks can you believe it? This man who calls himself, IWalkAlone, who has been portraying himself as a man of truth is now proven to be a fraud and a hypocrite. On Nov.16, IWalkAlone accuses Gods Jude of falsely accusing him of being BobBobbins, quoting Exodus 20:16 in his defence. It was not until Nov. 23 when IWalkAlone actually admits that he is in fact BobBobbins. For a full 7 days, he has lived the lie of deception and on Nov.19, while still living this lie, IWalkAlone accused teach_ib of being "dishonest". Well did Jesus call you Pharisees�HYPOCRITES!!
IWalkAlone/BobBobbins, YOU HAVE LOST ALL CREDIBILITY ON THIS FORUM. What are you doing here?
IWalkAlone/BobBobbins says, "Jesus never broke the sabbath. If he had done so, he would not have been able to fulfill the law. Your salvation could not have occurred. I am not sure where you get such ridiculous ideas. That is completely absurd and totally false."
My response: Absurd and totally false? . . .Really? "Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said God was His Father" (John 5:18). According to the apostle John, who wrote that scripture under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit . . .Jesus broke the Sabbath.
Singer4u says, "Paul and Goldenfaith both said in their writings on this forum that Yahushua broke Sabbath. That is impossible! You two should know better than that and to say it is total heresy!!! YOU ARE SAYING HE SINNED!"
My response: heresy? . . .really? "Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said God was His Father" (John 5:18). According to the apostle John, who wrote that scripture under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit . . .Jesus broke the Sabbath.
It is very clear in the Word of God that Jesus BROKE the Sabbath. It also says in the Word of God that Jesus NEVER sinned. I have no problem with both scriptures. It is you, Singer4u and BobBobbins, who have exalted yourselves above the Word of God to add your own interpretation to John 5:18. You both claim that Jesus could not have broken the Sabbath. Since when does your word override God's Word? You claim to be defenders of the Word, yet you are woefully ignorant of it.
"And when the Pharisees saw it, they said to Him, 'Look, your disciples are doing what is not lawful to do on the Sabbath!'"
But He said to them, "Have you not read what David did when he was hungry, he and those who were with him:
"how he entered the house of God and ate the showbread which was not lawful for him to eat, nor for those who were with him, but only for the priests?
"Or have you not read in the law that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath, and are blameless?
"Yet I say to you that in this place there is One greater than the temple.
"But if you had known what this means, 'I desire mercy and not sacrifice,' you would have not condemned the guiltless.
"For the Son of Man is LORD even of the Sabbath." (Matthew 12:2-8)
Oh yes, Jesus broke the Sabbath, but He never sinned. He was WORKING on the Sabbath healing people, but He never sinned, for He was doing exactly what the Father told Him to do. JESUS IS LORD even of the Sabbath.
And now in regards to Singer4u and IWalkAlone/BobBobbins adamant stand on the reasons for divorce. Both of you have ignored Jesus' Word spoken in Matthew 19:11:
"But He said to them, 'All cannot accept this saying, but only those to whom it has been given'"
You both ignore Jesus' Word spoken in Matthew 19:11 and quote only Matthew 19:9. Hypocrites! Is Jesus' Word spoken in verse 11 any less anointed than verse 9? You blind guides, you strain out a gnat and swallow a camel. Jesus said, ALL CANNOT ACCEPT the saying that fornication is the only reason for divorce, 'but only those to whom it has been given.'"
So Singer4u and IWalkAlone/BobBobbins accept that fornication is the only reason for divorce. Good for you. That's between you and God. Jesus said "ALL CANNOT ACCEPT THIS SAYING." And whether you like it or not, Singer4u and BobBobbins, the LORD JESUS makes it clear that He accepts other believers who have views on divorce contrary to yours.
BobBobbins, who now calls himself IWalkAlone, accuses Paul with this statement: "Here, he is promoting another devilish idea that a woman should instruct a man."
Paul's response: devilish idea? Really? Have you not read� "Now Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, was judging Israel at that time. And she would sit under the palm tree of Deborah between Ramah and Bethel in the mountains of Ephraim. And the children of Israel came up to her for judgement" (Judges 4::4-5). Here is a woman, chosen by God, instructing men, and you, IWalkAlone/BobBobbins, say it's a "devilish idea".
Well did Jesus call you Pharisees for who you really are�hypocrites. For you feign to be a God-fearing man to the reader while at the same time mocking God's idea of choosing a woman (Deborah) to instruct men, calling it a "devilish idea". You ignore the Word of God in Acts 21:9, Joel 2:28-29, and Acts 2:17-18 where God says "Your daughters will prophesy�. and on My maidservants I will pour out my Spirit in those days and they shall prophesy", and instead you concentrate on one single verse, "And I do not suffer a woman to teach" (1Timothy 2:12). Hypocrite!!! You blind guide. You ignore the weightier evidence in scripture that God uses women to instruct men today while you make up your own doctrine.
Singer4u says, "Marriage is a covenant made with yahushua and with another." Indeed it is.
Singer4u, did you make a vow before God on your wedding day that you would love your wife "for better or for worse, in sickness and in health, forsaking all others, until death do you part"? Did you at any time while you were married to your wife look on another woman to lust after her? Then you also have committed adultery according to Jesus' Word. "But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart" (Matthew 5:28). You vowed before God that you would be faithful to her. You have broken that vow. So, if you really want to live by the letter, you are as guilty as your wife.
Have you been CONDEMMNED by others as having an "UNBIBLICAL DIVORCE" ?
Posted : 30 Nov, 2013 04:27 AM
Paul, where you there? Do you know my heart? Are you the Holy Spirit. I kept my vows and no as I told you on previous posts never lusted in my heart after another I was totally satisfied with her. Just cause you may have lust problems and do such a thing just don't try to throw it on me oh sower of discord and false accuser.
You are just mad because many are agreeing with me on this posts. You said this before and I answered it. Let the viewers of this post review my posts and see he tried this before and I answered it then the same. Then you will see he is a sower of discord on the same matter even again.................
You are bitter and in error doctrinally and people are seeing it unless they want to agree with you cause they like their sin. False accusing is the fruit of the devil and I know by your doctrine you have problems.
Hasatan I cast you away from false accusing me in Yahushua's name. You have nothing in me...... Paul grow up in the faith.
