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Posted : 2 Feb, 2012 11:28 PM

Thanks to a question about divorce and remarriage posted on another thread, I felt the need to address those on this site who may be suffering from the weight of guilt and condemnation heaped on them because of their reasons for divorce.



I wrote the following article, "The Stone Thrower", based on actual instances that happened on this site. If you are one of those who have been ostracized by others for having an "Unbiblical Divorce," please take the time to read. May it minister to your heart.



The Stone Thrower



I want to touch on a subject today that has long been regarded in Christendom as taboo . . . and that is . . . DIVORCE. Mention that word around some Christians and their hackles suddenly go up on the back of their neck. They pull out their proverbial stones ready to put to death anyone who they think has been un-biblically divorced. And to my shame, I was one of them�a stone thrower.



We all know the story of the woman caught in adultery in John 8:3-11. The scribes and Pharisees (the religious self-righteous) had arrested this woman and dragged her before Jesus. One has to wonder how these Pharisees caught such a woman "in the very act" of adultery. How convenient for them. It's amazing the depths of depravity the self-righteous will sink to in order to defend their religious arguments. Did they have the paparazzi spy on her to get some juicy pictures for the whole world to see?



At any rate, they dragged this poor woman in front of Jesus and proudly proclaimed, "Now Moses, in the law, commanded us that such should be stoned. But what do You say?" (John 8:5)



Zowie!! These men can quote the Word of God . . . at least the parts that suit their fancy.



I like our Lord's reaction. "But Jesus stooped down and wrote on the ground with His finger, as though He did not hear" (John 8:6b).



Don't you just love it when someone ignores you . . . especially when you're trying to win an argument? But the self-righteous rarely lie down without a fight, and those religious Pharisees were determined to prove that they had the "truth." So they continued pestering Jesus, knowing that the Law of Moses was on their side. It's not a good idea to pester Jesus, especially when it comes to "pointing a finger" at someone.



"So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself up and said to them, 'He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.' And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. Then those who heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning from the oldest even to the last. And Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst" (John 8:7-9).



This introductory story of the woman caught in adultery has a purpose: I wanted you to have a glimpse of the mentality of a "stone thrower." They are usually self-righteous, ready to condemn, and can quote the Word of God. Ouch . . . I just described me.



I had a clear cut answer for the reasons one might give to justify divorce which I thought was quite Biblical. And in my mind, there was only one reason . . . "But I say to you, that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except for sexual immorality, causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery" (Matthew 5:32). There you have it�plain and simple. Who could argue with such a statement? It is the Word of God! I thought I had the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth . . . yet the truth is . . . I was ignorant of the ways of God. "For judgment is without mercy to the one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment" (James 2:13).



And it was in my ignorance to God's ways that I threw stones at the divorced ladies on a Christian dating site some time ago. As a widower, I was on this site looking for a prospective wife. I was so appalled at the amount of women who were divorced on this site whose reasons for separating from their husbands did not match my view of scripture. In order to protect myself from these "contaminated souls," I purposely wrote something in my profile for those that I would consider as wife material: "You may be single, widowed, or divorced (must be for Biblical reasons only)."



When I would communicate with these divorced ladies, I would immediately ask them to provide details on the reason for their divorce. If they could not give me an answer of infidelity as the reason for their divorce, then I considered them unmarriageable. Yet God has a way of grabbing His child's attention when that child is in error.



One of the ladies on this dating site told me her story of divorce after I demanded it. Her husband was deep in bondage to pornography and had no interest whatsoever in repentance. The man had not physically hopped into bed with another woman, and so in my self-righteousness, I condemned the poor wife for wanting to opt out on the marriage. And the "stones" that I threw created fresh wounds in her heart while she recounted those painful memories of her husband's infidelity as he lusted after porn. According to Jesus' own words, her husband WAS GUILTY of adultery: "But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart" (Matthew 5:28). I ignored that scripture and concentrated only on Matthew 5:32. She lashed out at me, saying that she was glad Jesus did not condemn her even if I did. I have to admit, I was shaken by her story which moved me to tears.



Then there was another lady whom I demanded to give an account for her divorce. I threw "stones" at her as well when she could not give me a reason of infidelity for her separation. In bitter anger, she struck back at me, stating how her husband had broken her nose and physically abused her. I ignored the scripture which reads, "But God has called us to peace" (1 Corinthians 7:15b) and concentrated again on Matthew 5:32. However, her story bothered me very much just like the other woman's.



I began to seek God earnestly. These were only two of the many ladies who shared with me their heartbreaking stories of divorce. There were so many reasons given for divorce and none of them fell under sexual immorality (fornication) as I saw it. I sincerely asked the Lord to open my eyes. Was there any scriptural evidence to support these women's choices to opt out of a marriage other than infidelity? Yes, there was.



God led me to Matthew 19:3-12. The Pharisees were looking for a reason to trap Jesus in His words. Their previous scheme had not worked with the woman caught in adultery. However, if they could just get Jesus to say something contradictory to the Law of Moses, then they could brand Him as a heretic. So they asked Jesus this question, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for just any reason?" (Matthew 19:3b)



Jesus' answer was, and still is, God's original intention for marriage: "Have you not read . . . the two shall become one flesh? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate" (Matthew 19:5b-6).



The Pharisees did not like His answer. For Jesus had taken them right back to Genesis before there ever was a Moses or a Law of Moses so that they could hear what GOD SAYS about marriage. Yet the stiff-necked Pharisees persisted with another question: "Why then did Moses command to give a certificate of divorce, and to put her away?" (Matthew 19:7)



Jesus responds, "Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so" (Matthew 19:8).



The self-righteous Pharisees were using the Law of Moses as an excuse to bail out on marriages for any flippant reason. And because of this, the Lord had some very strong words for them. "And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery" (Matthew 19:9).



I can just hear the stone throwers shouting, "See, I told you . . . it's right there in the word . . . 'sexual immorality!'"



Wait a minute. Like Paul Harvey, let's hear "the rest of the story" before jumping to any conclusions. After verse 9 comes verse 10. Even Jesus' disciples, which would include us, were amazed at the words of Jesus. "His disciples said to Him, 'If such is the case of the man with his wife, it is better not to marry'" (Matthew 19:10). Yeah, I can see their point. If sexual immorality (fornication) is the only reason for divorce, then perhaps we are better off not getting married.



But look at Jesus' response to his own disciples in verse 11. It stands to reason that if the disciples' statement was true, then Jesus would have said something to affirm it as such. He does not!



"But He said to them, 'All cannot accept this saying, but only those to whom it has been given'" (Matthew 19:11).



What saying? The saying in verse 9 of course. NOT ALL can accept the saying that fornication is the ONLY reason for divorce.



Now notice that Jesus goes on to explain what He meant with the following verse:



"For there are eunuchs who were born thus from their mother's womb, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He who is able to accept it, let him accept it" (Matthew 19:12).



What did Jesus mean by this? He tells us that three different men all became eunuchs for different reasons. One was born a eunuch, another was made a eunuch by men, and still another made himself that way for the kingdom of heaven. They all became eunuchs for different reasons, but who is to say which eunuch is "God approved"? God accepted them all. That's the point!



Likewise, there are many reasons someone might seek a divorce: physical and verbal abuse from a spouse . . . being married to an unbeliever who makes life a literal hell . . . marital unfaithfulness . . . the stress of being married to an alcoholic for 23 years . . . or living with a pornographer who refuses to repent. Which one of these reasons for divorce is "God approved"? That's the point Jesus was making. Just as the eunuchs were acceptable to God regardless of how they became a eunuch, so also is a woman acceptable to God who seeks to be free from an abusive husband, even if infidelity is not involved. You and I cannot see in the heart of that abused person . . . but God can. For God has called them to peace.



And the church has done more harm counselling emotionally and physically battered women to stay in a relationship citing Matthew 5:32 "except for sexual immorality" as the only just cause for divorce. Women have actually committed suicide and murder under the stress of remaining in an abusive situation because their legalistic church counseled them to do so.



You may have heard of the case in the U.S. where a lady killed her husband (a pastor) who had been abusing her for years. God had called her to peace . . . but she never knew it, and one day she snapped. The evidence of abuse was so overwhelming that the courts found this woman not guilty of murder by reason of insanity.



I certainly do not want to imply that people should take their marriage so lightly as to divorce for every whim and fancy. I would not condone that, and neither does the Word of God. Every marriage will have its share of problems which can be worked out with God's help by two committed individuals. Yet there are some women, especially those suffering physical and mental abuse, who have reached the tipping point of no return; and the only thing they can do to preserve their sanity is to get out of that marriage. And ultimately, it is to the Lord they answer to, not you or me. He has called them to peace.



After God opened my eyes to the truth of scripture, I contacted those ladies on the dating site who I had thrown "stones" at and apologized profusely. I was truly grieved that I had been so self-righteous and blind, wounding those precious sisters for whom Christ died.



Now back to the story that I began with. The "stone throwers" had already dropped their rocks and left the scene with a guilty conscience, leaving Jesus alone with the adulterous woman.



"He said to her, 'Woman, where are those accusers of yours? Has no one condemned you?'"



"She said, 'No one, Lord.'"



"And Jesus said to her, 'Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more'" (John 8:10b-11).



HALLELUJAH�MERCY TRIUMPHS OVER JUDGMENT!!!



Blessings in Christ Jesus,

Paul Janz



(All Scripture quotations are taken from the Holy Bible, New King James Version.)



"The Stone Thrower" Copyright � 2010 by Paul Janz.

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Posted : 30 May, 2012 03:24 PM

please forgive any typos in my posts. I noticed a few but none that should cause sufficient confusion.

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Posted : 30 May, 2012 04:43 PM

Part 4



Problem 4: A misunderstanding of the "call to peace".



Logically, your argument looks like this.



A. We are called to peace

B. A bad marriage is not peaceful

C. Therefore, nobody is required to stay in a bad marriage.



I will grant that your conclusion (C) is logical given your premises. (A&B). However, your entire supposition is unbiblical due to your misunderstanding of premise A.



John 16: 33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.



Peace comes from Jesus Christ. It is an internal peace despite the worldly trials and tribulations. It is peace with God - being reconciled to Him through the death of Jesus Christ and peace in God's sovereignty over all earthly affairs.



Consider Paul, who talks of contentment in all things (Phil 4). This equates to peace.



This was Paul's experience for the Gospel of Jesus Christ:



Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I am more; in labours more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft. Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one. Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep; In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness. 2 Cor. 11:23-27



Does that comport with your concept of a "call to peace"? Perhaps, Paul should have quit preaching the Gospel and claimed his "call to peace". I am glad that you were not there to counsel him in the matter.



The lives and testimonies of many believers do not support your misunderstanding of what it means to be a Christian - to pick up our crosses daily and follow Christ.

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Posted : 30 May, 2012 10:33 PM

Thank you BobBobbins for giving us your garrulous opinions. Your accusations are unfounded and your interpretations of my article incorrect. Like the person before you, you are creating arguments and rabbit trails that have nothing to do with the article. Stone throwers all have something in common: They are usually self-righteous, ready to condemn, and can quote the Word of God. They boast in the keeping of the letter of the law while ignoring the weightier matters of justice, mercy and faith. And besides all this, they have one other notable characteristic . . . they are hypocrites. Matthew 23:23-28.



Blessings,

Paul

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Posted : 30 May, 2012 10:37 PM

Something to consider about the unpardonable sin. It was speaking against the holy ghost. However don't actions speak louder than words? hebrews 10 vs 26 says if we go on willfully sinning after coming to a knowledge of the truth that there will be no more sacrafice for sin. Also it seems this sin can take different forms. Example: If a believer takes the mark of the beast they are damned. If someone commits suicide as a believer the scripture says whoever detroys the temple he will destroy. He says whoever takes his name in vain he will not acquit= that sin is not saying god d--mn, god isn't his name its Yahweh and theres many ways to do this. Also there is a warning to the believers by the apostle Paul to the corrinthian believers in 1 Corrinthians 6 vs 7-11 that gives a list of those practicing the sins of the flesh and he warns them they won't be in the kingdom. Its also in Ephesians 5 vs 4-7, Revelation 21 vs 8. rev 22 and its warnings, and many more. Adultery is different than other sins because a covenant is attached to it. All other sins do not! It's dangerous to divorce unscripturally because covenants are unbreakable unless death of one of the spouses. This is because Yahweh joins believers together and separates them in death. Men and women separate what he joined together by rebellion. Yahushuah the messiah said in Matthew 19 that he would only honor divorce for the innocent party only! The one guilty of adultery he said it would be adultery and they are not free to marry. This because if they repent they return where they left his will. They have to stay single and chaste to prove repentance. I am not a pharisee to say this because I believe every word he says in his word and want to live by it. The pharisees that were there with the woman caught in adultery only brought the woman before messiah. Leviticus 22 vs 22 requires both the man and the woman caught to be brought forward and the first 2 witnesses against them had to throw the first stones and this was Yahweh's instructions. They didn't keep his word to begin with so messiah couldnt rule according to leviticus 22 vs 22. So he wrote a new commandment = he that is without sin throw the first stone. No one could because the man wasn't there to be stoned either= It sounds as if the pharisees tried to set messiah up! He confounded them in their own craftiness! He didnt tell the woman to go confess her sin and marry another ! He said go and sin no more. This means return to your husband or live holy no more sexual sins! What is a punishment worse than stoning? Firey judgement =hell warned of in Hebrews 10 vs 26. We don't stone today we shun till there is conviction and then the fruit (proof) of repentance = a return to holiness! As for king David he was king and there was a law that anyone who put their hand on the king was given a death sentence! Also David had Uriah the hitie killed and Bathsheba was free then. She was free to marry then. David was told he would not die and yes he repented with all of his heart. He was supposed to be stoned but he was king and that was impossible for that reason alone. Uriah wasn't a believer he was a foreigner living amongs the Hebrew people and he was keeping the law and their customs. Romans 7 vs 2 and 3 and I corrinthians 7 vs 38 and 39 says a woman is bound to him as her husband lives but if he dies she can marry anyone she wishes who is also a believer. This is how Bathsheba got free =by her husband's death. Davis suffered greatly for this sin= the baby conceived died, the sword never left his house, a daughter was raped by her brother, one of his sons murdered another one, one son tried to kill David. Adultery was a very rare sin back in those days because it was a capital crime and for this reason people didnt do it! I study the scriptures always and for over 26 years and it is clear once saved always saved is a lie! We are to work out our salvation with fear and trembling because the lukewarm he will spit out and the lawless he will say depart from me you worker of iniquity. Lawless means those who break his commandments. All believing marriages are bound til death and only honored by Yahweh by death or for the innocent party by the adultery of the offending party. Divorce isnt a sin but adultery is and its damnable. Only the innocent party can remmarry . Messiah said as you did it to the lest of these that believe in me you did it to me. Vengeance is his and he will repay! He will repay the willful adulterers and if they are rebelling believers getting rid of their mate and remarrying another because that would be chronis ongoing adultery. Someone is going to qualify for Rev 21 vs 8. No adulterer will enter the kingdom! We must live by every word that proceeds out of his mouth! Shalom

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Posted : 30 May, 2012 11:08 PM

Dear Singer4u,

I commend your sincerity and your zealousness by which you endeavor to keep the Word of God. But I must bring back to your remembrance something I said to you earlier. You said, according to the law, adulterers are to be stoned. You also said, "show me where that has been taken away in the scripture?" If, according to you, adulterers are to be stoned, and Jesus said, Whoever looks on a woman to lust after her has committed adultery, then are you also guilty of adultery, and should you be stoned as well? And what pray tell is the basis by which you will enter heaven . . . is it by perfectly keeping the letter of the law, or is it by the mercy of God being poured out on you through the blood of Jesus? Romans 3:20



Blessings,

Paul

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Posted : 31 May, 2012 12:56 AM

Paul,



It's doubtful based on your response that you have taken the time to read and understand my posts. My point by point refutation of your article really wasn't for your benefit. Nor did I feel the least bit convinced that you would be persuaded by what the Bible has to say on the matter. Clearly, you reject the law of God in favor of your own law.



I took the time to detail out the errors in your article for the benefit of those who might be seeking understanding in the matter and would be falsely persuaded to accept Paul's word over God's word.



I would also like to commend Singer4U who has spent considerable time and energy factually laying out the truth of scripture against the deception in your article.

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Posted : 31 May, 2012 01:39 AM

I am going to address your questions.



You asked:

" If, according to you, adulterers are to be stoned, and Jesus said, Whoever looks on a woman to lust after her has committed adultery, then are you also guilty of adultery, and should you be stoned as well?"



Answer:

In Israel, Biblical law was also civil law (common law). We do not have civil law in the U.S. that requires that adulterers be stoned. Furthermore, unless you believe that the "thought police" should be invoked for use in civil matters, how would you justify trying and convicting anyone for a law violation that never leaves their mind?



Your confusion appears to lie in not understanding the difference between the eternal universal law of God and the civil law in any society. While "lusting after a woman" may violate the former, it does not violate the latter. The punishment of stoning was linked to violation of the civil law in Israel.



You asked:

"what pray tell is the basis by which you will enter heaven . . . is it by perfectly keeping the letter of the law, or is it by the mercy of God being poured out on you through the blood of Jesus"



Answer:

Here again, your question illustrates your lack of understanding of scriptural distinctions. A person is not justified by the keeping of the law. However, a person is sanctified by keeping the law. Jesus said, if you love me, keep my commandments. I am sure that there have been volumes written already that will help you understand the difference between justification and sanctification.

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Posted : 31 May, 2012 08:44 PM

BobBobbins you are so correct and very well spoken and put together brother!





Paul, as a matter of fact you did say that! You said that because of mercy truimping over judgement that it doesn't matter the rewason for divorce. You said that you use to ask women their reason for divorce and then you don't no longer because your eyes were opened and your heart changed on the matter. However, by your view change you are disobeying scripture clearly laid out on this matter by the messiah himself in Matthew 19. You went from obeying to not obeying scripture! If you believe that the author of the stone thrower is correct and Yahushua the messiah who is the creator in the flesh is wrong? You need to test yourself and see if you are in the faith sir? You wander what spirit I am of??? The holy spirit! I quote scripture and don't add nor take away from it! Mercy is only given when someone repents according to Yahweh's laws! A willful adulterer can be forgiven but can't remarry and thats mercy from Yahweh! He will not and cannot lie he said he will count their remarriages as adultery in Matthew 19! You need to break this down and study it from the orignal hebrew and greek as I and many others to understand it! Yes you are saying because of mercy anyone can remarry even if their fault adultery on this site or in christiandom! THAT IS A TOTAL LIE! Paul I mean this in love, but you need to be rebuked! You need to post scripture and what Messiah himself quoted verbatum and not some man's presupposed ideas on what the master meant because he didn't tell the whole story in his stone thrower story. The righteous know scipture and live by it and the rest according to the delusions of their own mind! If you are wrong you are going to be in trouble with messiah on your endorsing half truths and misinformation on what he said! Messiah warned the seven assemblies that believe in the book of Revelation in Chapter 22 that whoever adds to his words of his book(Revelation or whole bible? Or both?) that he would add the plagues written in Revelation and whoever took away from his words that he would take their name out of the book of life! He also warns that for anyone laying a stumbling block that it would be better that a great millstone be tied to their neck and them cast into the deepest sea than to face him for it!



Hebrews 10 vs 26, Hebrews 13 vs 4, Revelation 21 vs 8 and the end of chapter 22 of revelation of the scariest verses in the bible warning believers of continuing to willfully sin! Its says they will not be in the kingdom!!!



Only repentant adulterers will be in the kingdom! Not those that did it their way and were faithful in a new marriage that Yahweh never counted to begin with! If you want to marry a woman who did adultery go for it! Yet according to messiah he will count you both adulterers for she is bound to her innocent mate and only he can remmarry! Study and prove what I'm saying to be true or not and LET YAHWEH'S WORD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN A LIAR!!!!!!!

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Posted : 31 May, 2012 09:28 PM

PAul in answer to your question about law and grace on being saved? Also adultery in the heart oppose to physical adultery?



Adultery in the heart is damnable if not repented of according to messiah he said cut off your arm or pluck out your eye because its better to go into the kingdom with one than hell with both! However, there can't be two witnesses on whats in the heart can there Paul? No way to obey messiah on that one! Only he knows the heart! BobBobbins answered this one thoroughly for your benefit!

Adultery that is physical breaks the oneness of two fleshes becoming one. This gets you stoned if there are two witnesses. USA civil law doesnt allow it but it is still in force by other religions in other countries! In Israel adultery hardly ever happened because it is a capital crime. Remmeber 2 believers have a vow and covenant together and it can't be broken! Only Yahweh lets the innocent out of its terms not the guilty! I have studied every verse in the Torah on divorce and remarriage in Old Testament and New and studied under impeccable messianic rabbis who know the word better than any preacher( cause they speak fluent hebrew and greek too) on this matter.



You say will I get mercy? Yes cause we get mercy by repenting and returning to walking in the instructions of the word. Yahweh says return to me and I will turn to you! The prodigal son came to himself and returned to his Father's house. The Father didnt go to him in the pid sty! Yet he met him halfway when he seen the lost son returning. The prodigal returned obeying his Father and returning to his terms and ways!



Every married person vows for better or worse here in USA and they are accountable for it! There are many reasons people can separate and its not sin!!!!!! Adultery is! The word commands the separated to live sexually chaste or reconcile! No excuses! Adultery has a covenant and Yahweh will hold people accountable for it! Otherwise he would be lying to let them out of it! That is impossible he can't lie! To agree with others in their sin is to share in it! If you tell someone that they can marry when Yahweh says they can't then its your sin too you agreed with it and its bound on earth and in heaven! I only say what messiah says and so should you Paul.



We get grace when we return to obey! The prodigal son did. We have to turn from sin not just confess it! 1 John vs 7 is a pre requirement to 1 John 1 vs 9. We have to walk in the word9light) as messiah himself is in the light(word) then we have fellowship with one another and the blood of messiah cleanses us from all sin! We don't just confess sin. We turn from it! If you say that you have repented than you mean you have returned to obeying! We dont get just fire insurance! We have to endure til the end to be saved and work our salvation out with fear and trmbling of Yahweh! He is able to destroy the soul in hell not men or women and we don't agree with them to keep them from being sad or if we offended them. The word is offensive o those in sin! All adulterers who remarry without making sure they can will pay dearly! Those who forget the Torah9word) their prayers are an abomination to Yahweh! His eyes are on the righteous those who fear him and who prove they love him by keeping his commandments as BobBobbins so wonderfully said!



Paul re study the word on divorce and remarriage and look on Eliyah.com for the teaching on divorce and remmarriage that covers all verses pertaining to it in the bible only answering scripture with scripture. Also the pharisees were his enemies they did things their way! They quoted scripture out of context on purpose. Real believers quote their king only!!!!!! Pharisees didnt know scripture they twisted it and loved the praise of men. I am no hypocrite nor pharisee! I am saved by grace purchased by the blood of Yahushuah and destined to be who he says I am= more than a conqueror through him because he loves me! Apart from him I am nothing!

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Posted : 31 May, 2012 09:36 PM

I also apoligize to all for my typo's! I have big hands and find it hard to type fast. Sorry all

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