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Posted : 12 Mar, 2015 11:38 AM

Can True Christians Be Liberals?



Posted on 27/10/2014 by Geri Ungurean



My husband and I attended a church back in 2008 which was predominately black.The senior pastor was black as well. We loved that church. The worship experience was wonderful, and the preaching that we heard seemed solidly-based in Scripture.



There was a prayer service on Wednesday nights that was always packed out. We had never been in a church that seemed to love the Lord like this one.



The presidential election campaign was well underway. We were alarmed at what we were finding out about Obama. He had close ties with Planned Parenthood. His voting record in the Senate was deemed even to the left of Ted Kennedy. He had ties with the unrepentant home grown terrorist, Bill Ayers. He attended a church which proclaimed Black Liberation, a theology that serves not to reconcile and unite blacks with the larger cultural, but to keep them separate. [1]



In my mind I thought, "Surely, these people will not vote for Obama." Well, I was dead wrong.



One night I went online and searched out my pastor's name. He was well-known for writing many books, so I thought I would find something about his life.



I came upon a website which was all about politics from a "black"perspective. Our pastor, Pastor David, had been interviewed along with a black woman who was the head of Black Conservatives of America. I listened in horror, as my pastor spoke about Obama as if he was a god. The conservative woman was talking all about his lack of character and ties to Planned Parenthood. She said that although the black community would love to see their first black president, it was the heart and character of the person that was of more importance than the color of his or her skin.



The next morning I called my church to speak with Pastor David. He and I spoke for well over an hour about Obama. He had the nerve to ask me, "Are you one of the white people who think that Obama is the Antichrist?" I could not even dignify that with a response. I realized that he was skirting the important issues of which I spoke, and he wanted to discredit me.



I asked him if he was aware of Obama's stand on abortion. He said that he was, but that the idea of America voting in their first black president was the most exciting thing he had ever encountered. I was horrified. Needless to say, we stopped attending that church.



After the election, that pastor wrote a letter to his church on their website. He spoke about a "White woman who just couldn't be happy with them that America had their first black president."



Can a true Christian vote for the party that supports abortion up to the time of birth? Can a true Christian vote for a party who booed God at their Convention? Can a true Christian vote for a party which believes in and promotes same sex marriage?



I say NO. You cannot be a Christian liberal. That is like saying, "A Jewish Nazi." It does not work.



Exodus 20:13 says: "You shall not murder."



What is abortion if not murder?



It is taking the life of an innocent baby. The liberal Democrats scream about a woman's right to "choose"� abortion. They say that she has control over her own body. Well I have news for them: When she conceived, there are now two bodies - not just her own.



The Word of God says:



Psalm 139:14: "I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made;



Wonderful are Your works, and my soul knows it very well"



Jeremiah 1:5: "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations."



We were made and fashioned by His hand. From the time we were conceived, we have a soul. Abortion IS murder.



Let's look at what the Word says about homosexuality:



Genesis 19:4-9: "Before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter; 5 and they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them." But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, and said, "Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly."



Now behold, I have two daughters who have not had relations with man; please let me bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing to these men, inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof." But they said, "Stand aside." Furthermore, they said, "This one came in as an alien, and already he is acting like a judge; now we will treat you worse than them." So they pressed hard against Lot and came near to break the door."



Leviticus 18:22: "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."



Leviticus 20:13: "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them."



Romans 1:24-27: "Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error."



1 Corinthians 6:9-11: "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God."



Paul said, "Such were some of you, but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God" (1 Corinthians 6:11).



1 Timothy 1:9-10: "Realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching."



Brethren, these Scriptures are clear. There is no room for various interpretations! Our God detests the act of homosexuality. He LOVES the person, but the act is detestable to Him. His will is that the person repent of this behavior, and come to Him for salvation!



If we are truly born-again from above, and love the Lord with all of our hearts, then we cannot justify voting for a liberal party. They ridicule and laugh at Christians. How can anyone say he or she is a Christian and yet vote for liberals? And so blatantly go against the Word of God!



Last week, the mayor of Houston demanded that pastors hand over their sermons about homosexuality. She said that they needed to be sure they were correct (I say politically correct) and if not, they would be corrected. What? THIS is what happens when liberals get into power.



Being raised in a Jewish home, we were expected to be liberal and vote Democratic always. When I was born-again in 1983, almost immediately I realized that the platform of the Democratic Party was in direct conflict with the Word of God in almost every area.



My mother was distraught over my becoming a conservative. She even told me that she could accept me believing in Jesus more than knowing that she gave birth to a conservative!



Brothers and sisters in Christ, if you have made the error of voting for liberals in the past, PLEASE repent of this and go before the Lord. If you know of other Christians who have made the mistake of voting for liberals - show them this article. Direct them to the Scriptures referenced here.



I pray that Christians in America would fall to their knees and ask God to bless this country again. We are in trouble.



2 Chronicles 7:14: "And My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land."



Our Founding Fathers would weep if they saw what is taking place in America today.

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NRSV1953

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Posted : 22 Mar, 2015 12:40 PM

Methinks you may have missed the point of the article.

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Posted : 23 Mar, 2015 07:32 AM

No liberals can not be Christians.

Let your no be no and your yes be yes.

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Posted : 25 Mar, 2015 08:01 PM

Proverbs 4:27

Turn not to the right hand nor to the left: remove thy foot from evil.



As Christians, most of all we need to remember that wisdom. I've heard conservatives spout some utterly hateful nonsense, and strip mercy from their viewpoints. I've heard liberals spout some utterly hateful nonsense, and strip reason from their viewpoints. The point is, we're not called to a political party. If we wanted to vote for purely Christian values, we would not be able to vote at all. We only get two choices after all, and to presume that one only votes for christian things and one does not is not realistic. On top of that, we have to remember that our government is not "christian", it was most definitely founded on christian principles, but those christian principles include letting people be free to make their choices, we don't get to impose specific religious beliefs on them.



Now, it's a complicated thing....living in the world, but not being of the world. If you live in a country, and you take the high road and say you won't vote at all, in my opinion, that's taking the pacifist route, abandoning the defense, and letting the ones you consider to be in the wrong to take control, therefore becoming partially responsible for letting them take control. So we must participate, or we're enabling wrong-doing by our inaction.



There are three basic principles to being a christian, humility, mercy, and justice. Those are all applicable to a secular lifestyle, they are not inherently religious. I wish we had a political party that stood for those principles, but I'm afraid that party died out a long time ago.



So I can see how a "christian" could be on the left, if they're thinking that we need to let people make their own choices, but personally, I can only vote conservative. I try to approach our government with wisdom, logic, and informed science, NOT abandoning religious principles, but having other additional good reasons for the things I support or oppose.



For instance, if someone tells me that a baby who feels pain that the mother doesn't feel is NOT a separate human life that deserves basic human rights, even when it can survive without the mother, I consider them terribly scientifically and philosophically ignorant, bordering on inhumane. I don't care what side of the aisle you're on, any "convenience" abortions after 4-5 months should be premeditated murder, I honestly don't even understand why it's an issue. I hope that most normal people would at least take the view that a baby who can survive outside the mother is a real human, and that all the noise in Washington is simply crazy special interest groups. That's my naive hope anyway. So for the sake of our secular government, free from religious oppression(that goes both ways btw), I would vote for a measure that allowed abortions up to 2, maybe 3 months max. My point is, it's possible to take a middle ground approach without becoming religious dictators, God doesn't want religious dictators. Our founding fathers didn't want religious dictators. If God was a religious dictator, we would all be dead. God wants ambassadors to live in a foreign world, our job has never been to demand that people follow our beliefs under threat of punishment.



Jesus took the middle ground. He opposed the religious wing of the government in his day, he showed mercy to people who were under the law, but encouraged them to stop breaking the law and showed them a better life.



"And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him."



:peace::peace:

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Posted : 25 Mar, 2015 09:06 PM

"Freedom of choice"...thank you DHTM for reminding us that God still sanctions that whether we believe in Him or not!



Now the consequences of our choices...is another story, for another time!

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Posted : 25 Mar, 2015 10:41 PM

Algomaboy> I agree with you!!!! :applause:

I think "liberal christian" is a contradiction of terms. Let our nay be nay ...

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Posted : 20 Apr, 2015 10:13 PM

There is a lot of distance between both parties and God in my view. One is pro choice and the other is pro war, seems like a lot of killing going on. Givin those choices i wouldn't vote

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Posted : 7 May, 2015 05:07 PM

I do not understand how a Christian can be a liberal when liberals oppose school prayer, remove the 10 commandments have the school wall, support abortion, make friends with Islam stand against Israel and so forth.

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Posted : 6 Jul, 2015 10:55 AM

Algomaboy: You are correct! A true follower of Christ would NOT be a liberal because of what liberals stand for! We are to walk the NARROW road and not the wide.



God did say that FEW find it didnt he?





The LORD bless you!

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Posted : 14 May, 2016 09:36 PM

Both are wrong. They are Pharisees and Sadducees. Libertarian is the best bet it's basically the belief of leaving everyone alone. Cutting planned parenthood since it shouldn't get government money and so forth. I have started to despise both sides. It's all corrupt. Ask this question. Why are we only allowed two options? What's the point of a primary since the nominees are chosen for us?

In regards to social issue I can't fathom how a Christian be for abortion, or even believe living a homosexual life or sex outside of marriage is OK. In fact I've been convicted to not only be against abortion but even the death penalty(except extreme cases).

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