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It's Time to Get Serious People
Posted : 13 Dec, 2010 05:27 PM

I love you, so I'm going to tell you some hard truth, as it is written "Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him. (Leviticus 19:17, KJV)"



My profile was getting crowded with much of this, so I'm putting it here instead for those who are truly seeking, who are really searching for G-d's Will. I don't know everything. Far from it. But this I do know: Most professing Christians are not going to make it. Sadly.



As I'm entering this, one of the random women suggestions above, which CDfF.com has delivered, is a picture not of a woman, but of a black square instead, which contains the words "ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE ME". How appropriate. Indeed, this is the prevailing attitude of this wicked generation, who thinks they can live however they like without incurring His Judgment. Most of us will not hear the Truth. The sad fact is that GOD WILL JUDGE YOU if you refuse to repent of your sin. You are supposed to work out your salvation with FEAR and TREMBLING (Philippians 2:12).



Personally, I'm not looking for a Christian woman, at least not what is common among 'Christianity'. I'm looking for a follower of G-d's Messiah, whose priority is truly following Him rather than men; following Christ Jesus by the Spirit of Christ and in accordance with what is written... not a denomination, not a pastor, not the latest teaching, nor your feelings, nor your friends, and certainly not the majority of professing Christians. Christianity is plagued with traditions of men that nullify the commandment of G-d, which Christ Jesus HATES (See Mark 7:7-9). "But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up. (Matthew 15:13, KJV)" To have a hope, we must give Him our lives, and if you've given Him your life, it's no longer yours to do with as you please. It's His.



Most people I come across who profess to be Christians are not really following Christ Jesus. To someone who is really in Messiah, it is very obvious. When you truly step out of the world, it is shocking to see how a part of the world the overwhelming majority of professing Christians are in the world; integral. Unfortunately, though not surprisingly, most professing Christians don't even realize they are not actually following Christ, but the sad truth of the matter is that most professing Christians follow man, and, sadly, are headed straight for destruction as a result. It very well could be that you are just such a person, even likely, so let this be a warning to you if you hear His voice as you read this. The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom (Proverbs 9:10).



The Master says, "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity (ANOMIA; LAWLESSNESS!). (Matthew 7:21-23, KJV)" Not all believers are "saved," despite what man will tell you. As James says, "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? (James 2:19-20, KJV)"



"Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all [ye] workers of ANOMIA. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you [yourselves] thrust out. (Luke 13:23-28, KJV)"



The Master says, "If any will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow ME. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it. (Luke 9:23-24, KJV)" If you really follow him, frankly, you will hardly fit in anywhere. As He says, "Because ANOMIA will abound, the love of many will wax cold. (Matthew 24:12)" "My sheep respond to my voice, and I know who they are. (John 10:27, KJV)" If your goal is to fit in with most Christians and have a nice cozy life --- if your goal is to fit in at the average church --- sorry, you're not really following the Master. It's time to wake up people.



So what's the difference between the real believer and the imposter? We should be in the world, not of the world, set apart by His Spirit, WHOLLY OBEDIENT TO HIS COMMANDMENT. We do not pick and choose which commandments to obey. The soul that abides in sin shall die (Ezekiel 18:20). Unfortunately, most Christians fail to understand what, precisely, sin is. Sin is transgression of the Law (1 John 3:4), as given to Israel by G-d through His humble servant Moses. And it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before G-d, but the doers of the Law will be justified (Romans 2:13). Being Jewish doesn't matter, nor being Gentile; what matters is that you become a new creation in Messiah, who keeps the commandment of G-d (Galatians 6:15, 1 Corinthians 7:19)! The LORD changes not!



Fellowship and worship on the first day of the week if you like, but don't reject the G-d-given 7th day Sabbath, nor His feasts, and stop eating what is not food, stop celebrating pagan festivals. Wives, be reconciled to your husbands or remain alone. Stop believing the lie that G-d's grace means it's okay to sin, or that you cannot sin in Messiah even though you do! Don't be absurd. This passage in John's epistle means you are not in Messiah if you abide in sin! If you are truly in Messiah, you cannot abide sin just as HE CANNOT ABIDE SIN! He who says he abides in Messiah and lives in sin is a liar and the truth is not in him (1 John 2:4)! Don't be deceived. Unless you repent, you will perish (Luke 13:3,5).



Some follow Rome, some follow Luther, some John Calvin... some THINK they follow Paul, but 'Is Christ divided?' as Paul so aptly said (1 Corinthians 1:10-15). Blessed are they, rather, who hear the Word of God and obey (Luke 11:28). Traditions are unacceptable if they nullify the Law of God in any way. THAT is the test. As He said: I have not come to destroy the Law. Whoever breaks one of the least of these instructions will be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven, and unless your righteousness in these matters exceeds that of the scribes and the Pharisees, you certainly will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven (Matthew 5:17-20)! But hey, believe what you will. As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD (Joshua 24:15).



So let's love Him every day with all our hearts, souls, minds, resources, and love our neighbours as ourselves. Interestingly, those two instructions are not found in the Ten Commandments, but elsewhere in the Law; in Deuteronomy and in Leviticus respectively! That fact should speak volumes to you about the accuracy of the common understanding of the words of Jesus ('We must keep the Ten Commandments...'). It's true, but not the way most people mean to say. As it is written, 'The commandment is a lamp and the law is light, and reproofs of instruction are the way of life. (Prov. 6:23)' Do you have one without the other? Or have you not then turned the lamp off??!



So what did Jesus mean when he said the most important commandment of all is 'HEAR O Israel' (Mk. 12). Most professing Christians prefer to quote this occurrence as it appears in Matthew, which leaves this critical demand out. Most, I find, tend to say '...as long as I love God and love my neighbour, it's all good, even if I choose not to live entirely by the Word,' but WHAT IS LOVE? How do we know whether or not we love? The word translated in Mark 12 as HEAR (SHEMA, see Deut. 6, which means HEAR/LISTEN/OBEY) is the key to love. As John says, 'the love of God is that we keep His commandment, and his commandment are not grievous. (1 John 5:3)' And likewise, 'By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and obey his commandment. (1 John 5:2)'



How do we know, then, that a husband loves his wife, and a wife her husband? What about their children? A son his parents? Parents their children? Hopefully you guessed it hopefully... So don't forget SHEMA! When we SHEMA to the best of our ability, we THEREFORE love God and love our neighbour; and you can then know, therefore, that you will love your husband or wife as yourself. If this sounds insane to you, then you haven't yet really met Jesus. Search for him. Search for him with all your heart and you will find him.



And stop following men! Follow Jesus! Meditate on the Scriptures, seeking the illumination that only the Word of G-d can provide by His Spirit, and act on it! Stop paying heed to your frivolous feelings, attributed to the Holy Spirit, that are not consistent with Scripture ('I feel like the Spirit is telling me it is okay to not obey this time...'). The heart is deceitful above all and desparately wicked (Jeremiah 17:9). Test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world (1 John 4:1).



Feel free to message me if you have any questions. G-d willing, He will give me the wisdom to respond appropriately. But please, the above is Scripture. If you don't agree, take it up with Jesus.





P.S. To the divorced on here, I'm curious what you think:



How do you interpret the words of Jesus? ...maybe no one has brought your attention to these words before:



In Luke 16:18 and Matthew 5:32 (see also Mark 10:10), Jesus is recorded as saying he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery. (ESV)



Likewise, in 1 Corinthians 7:11, Jesus says through the Apostle Paul "To the married I give this charge (not I, but the Lord): the wife should not separate from her husband (but if she does, she should remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband), and the husband should not divorce his wife."



Just prior to that, Paul writes the following:



"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral....will inherit the kingdom of God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-10)



I'm just doing the math here. It seems pretty logical to me, but maybe I'm missing something... The LORD says marrying a divorced woman is committing adultery, which is sexual immorality, and Paul warns us that the sexually immoral will not inherit the kingdom of God.



Are you quite sure you want to remarry?



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Posted : 21 Dec, 2010 07:27 PM

Lawabider,

You accusations and judgements are based on your own misinterpretations, of others posts and even the Scripture itself, you refuse to see the side of Grace. You do not handle Scripture correctly, it is a double edged sword not a hatchet to hack brothers and sisters in Christ. Why is it Jesus said he did not come to judge but to save and you feel as though you sit in the judgement seat with the Scripture as your sword?

hmmmm...

Answer a question if you can... I will ask it a number of ways to help you get what I am asking;

Are you preaching a person must turn from their sin before they come to Jesus?

Are you saying Jesus will not accept the one who comes to him until they have turned from their sin?

Are you saying a person must be sinless before Jesus will them accept them?

Are you saying a person must be without sin to be a real Christian?

Are you saying it is more important to focus your effort on turning from sin that it is to focus on Jesus?



I know what Scripture says, What do you say Lawabider?



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Posted : 21 Dec, 2010 07:50 PM

@twosparrows:



Evidently your presumption is faulty.



The answer to your question is the same thing I have been saying from the beginning. "Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from INIQUITY. (2 Timothy 2:19, KJV)"



INIQUITY, from the Greek word ADIKIA, which means, "a deed violating law and justice, act of unrighteousness".



I am not witnessing here to people who do not already name the name of Christ. It should be obvious to you that I am addressing those who name Jesus as the Messiah, on "ChristianDatingForFree.com".



It is this that you have been opposing all along.



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Posted : 21 Dec, 2010 08:00 PM

@dgrimater:



Report me if you must. I have done nothing wrong. If you don't want to drink, don't drink. It is not a sin to not drink, nor is it a sin to drink in moderation if it does not lead to sin.



As for your point about Mary and Joseph, I've already addressed this is some detail. If we disagree, we disagree. I'm not going to argue with you about the same two things over and over again.

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Posted : 21 Dec, 2010 08:12 PM

Citizen...I think you take the award for "Most Prideful Person I have Witnessed on the Forums"...you haven't even been on here that long...



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Posted : 21 Dec, 2010 08:27 PM

@DontHitThatMark:



From what you have personally written here, you are still in your sin, because you don't think that G-d's Eternal Instruction -- which even HE HIMSELF submits to in Christ Jesus -- you don't think it applies to YOU. I have rebuked you frankly in love, as the Word of G-d instructs, and I have demonstrated why and how you are in error. That's not pride my confused neighbor, that's humility before G-d. Pride is rejecting G-d's instruction for your own way. THAT'S PRIDE. Now, you want to call me names, that's your prerogative. It's not surprising.



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Posted : 21 Dec, 2010 08:46 PM

@dgrimater:



Wait, correction, it is not necessarily either-or... though it may not lead to sin necessarily, if the Spirit tells you not to drink, then you certainly should not drink, as doing so would then be sin. You have to figure out if this is the case for you -- which it sounds like it could be -- but universally applying your conviction about drinking in condemnation of ANY who drink in moderation, when Scripture says otherwise, is error. G-d gave us wine to gladden our hearts, enjoyed responsibly. Nevertheless, he does call people to live without alcohol.



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Posted : 21 Dec, 2010 09:05 PM

Lawabider,

You wrote:

"@twosparrows: Evidently your presumption is faulty."



What Presumption???, I asked a simple question that either you can't or wont answer.

Actually it doesn't suprise me, I didn't think you would answer it. I just hope you knowing you can't answer such a simple question would plant a seed that someday would bear the fruit of repentance.

Maybe I asked it to many different ways?

How is this:

Must a person repent of all their sin and be sinless obeying all the commands before Jesus will save them?



Hmmm... *thinking*..."I wonder what he will copy and paste this time that doesn't answer the question.



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Posted : 21 Dec, 2010 09:28 PM

@twosparrows:



Wow, I did answer your question, and clearly, you're just contentious and hard of hearing.



Your presumption in your last comment is that I am in any way speaking to ANYONE that does not already confess the name of Jesus. Your questions were all posed with that slant. This an absurd idea to begin with... this is a Christian website. I never said to anyone at any time that they have to repent and be sinless before turning to Jesus. Never. Rather, now that you are turning, don't learn the way of the majority, which tears pages out of G-d's Eternal Instruction as THEY see fit.



But this question you're asking now is different that the first question. Now you're asking the right question. Are you saved if you 'believe in Jesus' in your mind but you will not repent of your sin? NO! And sin is transgression of the Law. Jesus says your righteousness in your obedience to His Law must exceed the righteousness of the scribes and the Pharisees or you "CERTAINLY WILL NOT" not enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Really, neighbor, how many ways can I say this to you?



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Posted : 21 Dec, 2010 09:31 PM

@twosparrows:



I wrote, "or you "CERTAINLY WILL NOT" not enter the Kingdom of Heaven."



No double negative intended.



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Posted : 21 Dec, 2010 10:03 PM

Lawabider,

You are a webpage designer? Perhaps you would do better as a used car salesman:

* customer asks : "Does this car have the C-4 or the C-6 transmission?

* Lawabider replies : "Glad you asked; this car has a 5.0 liter V-8 engine."

*sigh*

Lawabider wrote:

" this question you're asking now is different that the first question. Now you're asking the right question. Are you saved if you 'believe in Jesus' in your mind but you will not repent of your sin? "



That's funny, I don't recall asking question. Oh, I see ....since you couldn't answer my question you had to make one up of your own and say it was mine so you could answer it.....ok, I get it....

*sigh*

Ok I have asked that question five different ways and still no answer. How about a new question? :

Does a person have the ability to turn from sin and be sinless?

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