My husband and I attended a church back in 2008 which was predominately black.The senior pastor was black as well. We loved that church. The worship experience was wonderful, and the preaching that we heard seemed solidly-based in Scripture.
There was a prayer service on Wednesday nights that was always packed out. We had never been in a church that seemed to love the Lord like this one.
The presidential election campaign was well underway. We were alarmed at what we were finding out about Obama. He had close ties with Planned Parenthood. His voting record in the Senate was deemed even to the left of Ted Kennedy. He had ties with the unrepentant home grown terrorist, Bill Ayers. He attended a church which proclaimed Black Liberation, a theology that serves not to reconcile and unite blacks with the larger cultural, but to keep them separate. [1]
In my mind I thought, "Surely, these people will not vote for Obama." Well, I was dead wrong.
One night I went online and searched out my pastor's name. He was well-known for writing many books, so I thought I would find something about his life.
I came upon a website which was all about politics from a "black"perspective. Our pastor, Pastor David, had been interviewed along with a black woman who was the head of Black Conservatives of America. I listened in horror, as my pastor spoke about Obama as if he was a god. The conservative woman was talking all about his lack of character and ties to Planned Parenthood. She said that although the black community would love to see their first black president, it was the heart and character of the person that was of more importance than the color of his or her skin.
The next morning I called my church to speak with Pastor David. He and I spoke for well over an hour about Obama. He had the nerve to ask me, "Are you one of the white people who think that Obama is the Antichrist?" I could not even dignify that with a response. I realized that he was skirting the important issues of which I spoke, and he wanted to discredit me.
I asked him if he was aware of Obama's stand on abortion. He said that he was, but that the idea of America voting in their first black president was the most exciting thing he had ever encountered. I was horrified. Needless to say, we stopped attending that church.
After the election, that pastor wrote a letter to his church on their website. He spoke about a "White woman who just couldn't be happy with them that America had their first black president."
Can a true Christian vote for the party that supports abortion up to the time of birth? Can a true Christian vote for a party who booed God at their Convention? Can a true Christian vote for a party which believes in and promotes same sex marriage?
I say NO. You cannot be a Christian liberal. That is like saying, "A Jewish Nazi." It does not work.
Exodus 20:13 says: "You shall not murder."
What is abortion if not murder?
It is taking the life of an innocent baby. The liberal Democrats scream about a woman's right to "choose"� abortion. They say that she has control over her own body. Well I have news for them: When she conceived, there are now two bodies - not just her own.
The Word of God says:
Psalm 139:14: "I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
Wonderful are Your works, and my soul knows it very well"
Jeremiah 1:5: "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations."
We were made and fashioned by His hand. From the time we were conceived, we have a soul. Abortion IS murder.
Let's look at what the Word says about homosexuality:
Genesis 19:4-9: "Before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter; 5 and they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them." But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, and said, "Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly."
Now behold, I have two daughters who have not had relations with man; please let me bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing to these men, inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof." But they said, "Stand aside." Furthermore, they said, "This one came in as an alien, and already he is acting like a judge; now we will treat you worse than them." So they pressed hard against Lot and came near to break the door."
Leviticus 18:22: "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."
Leviticus 20:13: "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them."
Romans 1:24-27: "Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error."
1 Corinthians 6:9-11: "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God."
Paul said, "Such were some of you, but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God" (1 Corinthians 6:11).
1 Timothy 1:9-10: "Realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching."
Brethren, these Scriptures are clear. There is no room for various interpretations! Our God detests the act of homosexuality. He LOVES the person, but the act is detestable to Him. His will is that the person repent of this behavior, and come to Him for salvation!
If we are truly born-again from above, and love the Lord with all of our hearts, then we cannot justify voting for a liberal party. They ridicule and laugh at Christians. How can anyone say he or she is a Christian and yet vote for liberals? And so blatantly go against the Word of God!
Last week, the mayor of Houston demanded that pastors hand over their sermons about homosexuality. She said that they needed to be sure they were correct (I say politically correct) and if not, they would be corrected. What? THIS is what happens when liberals get into power.
Being raised in a Jewish home, we were expected to be liberal and vote Democratic always. When I was born-again in 1983, almost immediately I realized that the platform of the Democratic Party was in direct conflict with the Word of God in almost every area.
My mother was distraught over my becoming a conservative. She even told me that she could accept me believing in Jesus more than knowing that she gave birth to a conservative!
Brothers and sisters in Christ, if you have made the error of voting for liberals in the past, PLEASE repent of this and go before the Lord. If you know of other Christians who have made the mistake of voting for liberals - show them this article. Direct them to the Scriptures referenced here.
I pray that Christians in America would fall to their knees and ask God to bless this country again. We are in trouble.
2 Chronicles 7:14: "And My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land."
Our Founding Fathers would weep if they saw what is taking place in America today.
I'm going to be very careful about de-Christianizing on any basis other than what the Bible clearly does.
Those who are cheating people, lying, committing sexual sins, drunkards, murderers -- they are not Christians. I have that on the authority of God's word.
I have a couple friends who make strong professions of Christian faith but are liberal. Not liberal on every issue, but liberal on some and vote according to those issues.
One is anti-capitalist, very environmentalist, and generally thinks that government is pretty good at solving problems. He opposes abortion and probably is conservative on some other points, but he prioritizes the issues on which he's liberal and votes that way.
My friendship with those people is limited. I could NEVER marry someone like that! But I hope to fellowship well with some of them when we meet at Jesus' feet.
It must be remembered that the actual meanings of liberal and conservative are different to what it is currently thought to be in America. For South Africans for example American conservatives are liberal and American liberals are socialist.
Such thinking as described reminds me of the "Cherry-picked Bible" anyone that specifically describers him/her-self as being liberal seems to read. While the others seem to read the Bible one chapter at a time while forgetting others exist and that God is capable of nuance.
Also from what I have read and heard American blacks are generally foolishly bonded to anything remotely pro-black. This is kind of understandable but can only lead to glorious wreckage... especially since Obama is really more white and arab in ancestry than black anyway :laugh:
"It must be remembered that the actual meanings of liberal and conservative are different to what it is currently thought to be in America. For South Africans for example American conservatives are liberal and American liberals are socialist."
Liberal as it today is used mostly means change, conservative usually means little of no change. Thus it is possible for today's liberals and conservatives to have the exact opposite views say 50 years in the future.
"Also from what I have read and heard American blacks are generally foolishly bonded to anything remotely pro-black..."
Rambo, Rambo, Rambo...shame on you! First I recommend that you don't believe all that you read or hear!!! I personally won't go as far as to say the usual..."Oh, I'm just so offended by your unfounded statements...yadda, yadda, yadda"!! I will say however that bias statements like that probably helps the already heightened racial tensions we are experiencing today in cities around the U.S., which if you wanted something to "read or hear", has been very well documented and widely confirmed...just go on the internet!!
And as for President Obama being of different ancestry than he claims...aren't we ALL, when investigated to it's full extent, from ancestry that more than likely is removed 5 to 10 times from who we believe are parents started from? Ummmm...something to think about would you say? And no I don't agree with many of his beliefs and policies, but I haven't also with just about every other president in office in my short time as an American! What can I say(smile)!!
But what I am commissioned to do is pray...and pray some more that The Lord's will be done in the lives and decisions of our leaders!! That's really ALL that we, as true believers in God, should be doing no matter who we voted for or what nation we call ourselves citizens of! May we continue to find oneness in His promises...
NSRV it may indeed be a great article but its a good idea to do an OP of your own when introducing a completely different subject altogether. ty:dancingp:
