Thread: Is shacking up/living togehter okay for Christians??
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Is shacking up/living togehter okay for Christians??
Posted : 18 Apr, 2009 11:59 AM
Someone said it was a generational thing that older Christians said living together was wrong. This is what I said to that and I want to hear what other Christians think.
If that was the case then EVERY WORD out of GOD'S MOUTH would be old, dusty and a generational thing!! Chile please!!
I Thessalonians 5:22 Abstain from ALL appearance of Evil!!
Websters definition of abstain: refrain (usually from pleasurable action)
Websters definition of appearance: act of appearing, outward look
Websters definition of evil: immoral, wicked, harmful, bad, ill-reputed.
II Timothy 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will NOT endure sound doctrine but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears.
And they shall turn AWAY their ears from the truth and be turned into fables.
II Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.
The Last Days Foretold:
II Timothy 3:1-7
This know also that in the last days perilous times shall come.
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud,
blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without
natural affection, truce breakers, false acccusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded,
lovers of pleasures MORE than lovers of God;
Having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof, from such TURN AWAY. For of this sort are they which CREEP INTO HOUSES and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts.
***Its in black and white! Its in the Word! No possibility of anybody not understanding this. The choice is left to us on how we behave...to obey or not to obey!
I got plans in Heaven, questions to ask God, Jesus and Moses. Sooo....I shall be obeying to the best of my ability!
Is shacking up/living togehter okay for Christians??
Posted : 19 Apr, 2009 01:20 PM
In my opinion, this really doesn't belong in this forum, nor do I understand why you made it. It's not inviting discussion, it's more just flat-out preaching--on stuff all the real Christians here already know.
Don't get me wrong, I completely agree with you that shacking up and living together is not appropriate for Christians, but I think every ACTUAL Christian on here who takes their faith with any kind of modicum of seriousness (church-goers, bible readers, God followers) already knows this.
If other "Christians" are choosing to live that sinful lifestyle, that's their choice--but those people certainly are not going to take into account the aggressive perspective of an online dating site forum user.
In other words, I don't think you're going to win over any converts here on this issue.
Finally, my biggest gripe is that this really has nothing to do with dating stories or experiences so I don't see how it belongs here.
Is shacking up/living togehter okay for Christians??
Posted : 1 May, 2009 05:30 AM
Yes it is wrong, and why not talk about it here? But if Chrisitian are having sex and living apart, same sin, just maybe might make some people think you are doing as the Word says, but HE knows all. Same sin as people who are in same sex relationships. But most don't see it that way. Yes we all make slip ups at times, but if we don't call it sin in our lives, go back to the cross and start over, work on changing ourselves, we are just a waiting time bomb that will sin again.
Is shacking up/living togehter okay for Christians??
Posted : 2 May, 2009 06:40 AM
You are absolutely, 100% on target and this is the right place to have that discussion: Those interested will respond and ponder your points, others get to "move on".
You have very soundly covered the bases Biblically and so I would only offer this: That we ought to redeem the times for the days are evil . There is nothing new under the sun. Yet and still women and young girls are "de-valuing" themselves at epidemic proportions. I only wish that all of male or female but particularly young girls would recognize the truth in the scripture that says, "We are not our own for we have been bought with a price..." That price? The precious blood of God's only begotten son that flows through the veins of every blood bought christian. If we could only recognize how much God thought of us we would not so readily bring shame and reproach upon ourselves or HIM!
I travel, teach and preach all over the country about the fact that once we as believers come into the family of God - we ARE THEN the righteousness of God in Christ ...the only God some will ever see. We have an obligation and a responsibility to "represent" Christ as He walks the earth through our lives.
Amen and God bless you Ms Seleeta for the timely post and scriptural review.
Is shacking up/living togehter okay for Christians??
Posted : 5 May, 2009 03:42 PM
Well,the fellow sure did preach a sermon but all was ask was can they live together ,answer, no, if you sleep with someone that's not marred the word of god calls that fornication 1 Corinthians 7:2 (KJV)
2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
on the other hand if one of you is marred to someone else then it's adultery . Mark 10:19 (NKJV)
19 You know the commandments: 'Do not commit adultery,' 'Do not murder,' 'Do not steal,' 'Do not bear false witness,' 'Do not defraud,' 'Honor your father and your mother.' " Matthew 5:28 (KJV)
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Is shacking up/living togehter okay for Christians??
Posted : 6 Jun, 2009 12:40 PM
I agree. I don't think that every christian that lives with someone is having sex with them. I have a boyfriend who does not believe in sex outside of marriage. I am the same way. I think that one too many christians are way too busy judging others. If that person is doing nothing wrong, doesn't want to be alone, that should be their choice. I am not some liberal, but I am not so legalistic like I used to be.
Is shacking up/living togehter okay for Christians??
Posted : 6 Jun, 2009 01:17 PM
Hi Seuss,
Welcome to the forums!
However I could not disagree with you more. Why would two Christians who are dating and attracted to one another put themselves in the path of temptation in this way and also diminish their Christian witness? It is not about being judgmental or legalistic. It is not about other Christians judging you, but about what the unbelievers see.
We are not of this world, why do we want to behave as if we are. We should hold ourselves to a higher standard. We can not compromise!
Is shacking up/living togehter okay for Christians??
Posted : 6 Sep, 2009 09:07 PM
Perhaps we should define the terms better, ie, shacking up and marriage. Dr. William Willamon from Duke University once preached a sermon he titled, Public Sex. Needless to say, he had a full chapel of students and parents that day! His point was different than expected, of course. He stated that marriage is a public declaration about who we are sharing property with and who we are sleeping with.
In different cultures, it takes different forms. On one end of the spectrum, if a woman cooks a meal for a man, they are considered married. In other cultures a marriage is much more elaoborate and governed by civil laws as well as religious authority.
In Canada, if you live together for 6 months, for the purposes of law (taxes) you are married. You can live in denial of that all you want, but it won't hold up in court.
An elderly woman of God told me one time about her son that was living with woman. The situation upset her and she prayed about iy often. Finally she felt peace when God told her, "It's not a sin for him to live with her, it's a sin if he leaves her." That was over 20 years ago when she told me and, although she has long since passed away, her son is still living with this same woman.
I have more than one Christian friend who refused to get a marriage license before getting married as they considered it unnecessary as modern systems automatically track taxation concerns anyway. One couple had a ceremony (not in a church because the church wouldn't allow it) and then lived together. Another couple just told their families and friends then lived together for a year, then had a big "celebration of the marriage" a year later. Are either of these two couples not married because they didn't follow protocol of the past?
Is Dr. Willamon right in that, whatever the form, marriage is a public proclamation of who you are sharing your property and your bed with? I s the real issue not the form of the ceremony, but the public commitment of two people? Who decides what is appropriate for stating that commitment?
