Thread: Why real men and women of God are historicized as being good lovers!
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Why real men and women of God are historicized as being good lovers!
Posted : 24 Oct, 2011 09:28 AM
Let's face it, the men of God in the Bible had to have been good lovers or else they would not have had so many children.
Some on here think, erroneously, that "chemistry" is what it takes to cement a relationship together. But is this true?
I know that it is not.. and I will endeavor to share with you what I know that it is.
It is not chemistry, but the knowledge of God, and why a man and woman are uniquely suited for each other.
Men and woman of God, simply put, make the best lovers..
Why was Solomon, David, and even Jacob, who had 12 sons, such good lovers. Remember, for the most part the scripture does not mention the daughters that were born to these men.
David had numerous wives. In fact, the scripture records that it was the Lord Who gave David his wives. The Lord gave him Saul's wives, and then added Abigail and Bathsheba; so we know that David had at least five wives.
Solomon had 1,000 concubines and wives combined. The scripture does not record how man children Solomon had, but it must have been in the dozens.
What was the key to these men's lives, regarding sensual relations with their wives (and concubines)?
It was the knowledge that the Lord gives to each of His sons regarding the anatomical features of our bodies, and how the female's body is designed by God to be weak, and thus needs the man's strength to compliment her. Without a man, a woman's body cannot work, and her womb is useless.
A man and a woman were designed to be very sensual; and while it is a HUGE part of their reliationship, they know that it is not everything. What truly makes a relationship of God, such a wonder, is the knowledge that "I gave you this relationship, now submit to the sensuality between you, and unleash it, so that you {the woman} may know the relationship of the man to Me, and the man may know the relationship of the creature to Me..
The Lord gave the sensual relationship and intended for it to be marvellous..
The problem with most men today, is the way they use the woman's body, as though she were there just for their pleasure. This is selfishness, and ungodliness.
A man is to be a man to the woman first, and then she is to be woman to him. The beauty of sensuality is discovered in the word "relate"; it means "mutual dealings between parties". That means that a man is not to be selfish, nor the woman, but together they are to relate, and reciprocate. As one give, the other gives in return, and visa versa.
Men of the world as selfish, as are woman of the world. Selfishness does not serve a man or woman of God. The act of relating cannot be said to be one of selfishness, but of unrestrained unlimited affection.
In the story of Isaac and Rebekah, Rebekah travels all the way from her homeland to Isaac, and when she meets him, he takes her into his mother's tent, and knows her. Now, you've got to get this one. He took her to the closest tent available and they consumated their union before God.
In closing, I would like to share a pet-peeve of mine. I detest it when someone will say to someone else, "I want to get to KNOW you!" I always smile at myself, because they do not know the true meaning of, "to know", for it involves the deepest knowledge. The scripture records that "Adam knew his wife and she conceived", and "Cain knew his wife and she conceived".
Chemistry is obviously not the answer to a relationships lasting, but the learning of the depths of someone else's psyche and soul..
Why real men and women of God are historicized as being good lovers!
Posted : 25 Oct, 2011 10:32 AM
You have the number of children that you have because it is designed of God..
"Who has done such mighty deeds, summoning each new generation from the beginning of time? It is I, the LORD, the First and the Last. I alone am he." [Isaiah 41:4]
Your comparing yourself to others, and stating that your analysis proves this or that, only serves to prove that you lean heavily upon your philosophical perspective in life, and little on the scripture..
The sum of time is involved, it always has been and it always shall be..
The number of your seed in the earth is not determined by the number of spermatozoa, but by the decree of the Living God.
Why real men and women of God are historicized as being good lovers!
Posted : 26 Oct, 2011 03:33 PM
Your thinking is flawed. Nowhere in scripture does it say that someone had nnn children because they were good lovers, but that they were blessed by God and had many children*. In the OT, you were considered blessed if you had many children, and cursed if you were barren. This doesn't mean the people involved were better lovers.
*This was effectively (but indirectly) true, however, some of the most blessed parents in the Bible had relatively few children.
Why real men and women of God are historicized as being good lovers!
Posted : 28 Oct, 2011 03:47 AM
Well that is not entirely true.
It only takes one sperm to make a baby, but numerous sensual encounters to produce 12 sons, besides daughters..
You are intentionally trying to downplay and diminish the womans need to submit to the man, by saying "it is not about men being loving to the woman, but just the two of them can produce a child".
If a man is not interested in a woman, it is not just a matter of the twain becoming one flesh.. as though children are the result of a man just sleeping with a woman..
If you are not desirable to a man sensually, there will be no consensual relations. So don't try and make it appear as if it is just a matter of you entering into the same room as he is in.
You are not genuine in your response; your position, that arousal and interest were not involved, but that it is a simple act, and not action, which is what produces a child, is designed to impugn the fact that if a man is not interested in a woman sensually, that reaction which results often in a child, will not take place.
Men and women are both equally necessary for the consensual union to taek place. However, the fact remains that a woman's womb is flaccid and weak, in need of a man's strength, proves the very role that she is to assume, which is a submitted one.
Why real men and women of God are historicized as being good lovers!
Posted : 5 Nov, 2011 08:45 AM
sensuality is but one of the many attributes God has give to each human beings God has created,yes i would agree that this very generation trust mainly on the instinct of chemisty--- sexual chemistry to be more specific...our generation has become too polluted to see the essence of being men and women of God.
you did mention about david and the rest of the gang pertaining to them having more than one lover and having so many children, that then being used as a basis on them being good lovers....i think it was in there norm to take more than one wife and to have so many children. i believe as our culture is evolving so as the choice of individuals. i am working in an arab country and i have seen how they too evolved, most of those educated arabs would choose to have one wife and 2-5 children only,and i ask them once why not talk more than one wife when in fact they have the option to add their wife. and they respond by stating that their culture also evolve,meaning they opted to have one wife to have one focus.
i believe if one would desire to be a good lover,he or she must love with all his/her heart the ultimate source of love,Jesus Christ. being a lover doesnt always pertain to how good you are on bed or how many wives or husbands you have, but how you are as individual in the eyes of God..
i believe i am a good lover because of Jesus who love me first...
