I would like to say not all Christian men treat women bad...I have experience a number of proclaimed christian men that are very worldly when it comes to several things respect, honor, mostly in the area concerning sex I won't go into everything but have been treated by lost guys with more respect( not that I date them now) I want a real christian man and that my friends is the real key... men and women that are living for the Lord and not playing church ...I have met more on the dating site than in personthat are not who they say they are christian but the total picture really does not say that or maybe they are not being taught in the church they attend...anyway just want to say I am sorry NOT ALL CHRISTIAN MEN ARE LIKE THIS SO please forgive me for including all it was not my intent just the ones I have dated...so yes really thinking about going off here...I have given this to the LORD and He will lead me to my husband in His time...God bless you all
Thanks Samson; good to see one that doesn't use God's grace and mercy as an excuse to live in sin. God Bless You!
Interesting point....This is a subject that I go over and over. "Christian" a widely MISUSED word, especially in America, where we grow up hearing it. If you don't see fruit...ya gotta wonder. If you are truly born again, you don't "return to your vomit" as the word says. You may sin, but you don't live in habitual sin, i.e. adultry, porn, drugs, homosexuality.
"For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come. If they shall fall away, to renew them agtain unto repentance, seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put Him to an open shame.
Here it is:
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin: for his seed remaineth in him and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. I John 3:10-10
That's a sermon on continual sin heard recently; there is a difference. Hope this helps.
I think this topic has been covered well and also has been backed up with the Word of God.
I just want to add a little from life's experiences. Just my opinion. You can agree or not, I don't take your opinions personal!!!
" Two people can both be Christians and not be equally yoked". What I mean is that two Christians that truly Love God to the best of their ability may not be compatible. They may have different Cultures, lifestyles, desires, goals, beliefs, habits, hobbies, preferences, sexual drives, family ties, etc. etc. that seem to be "non-issues" when you are dating.
The problem comes later when the "Honeymoon Season" is over and you wake up and realize that you don't really know the person you are living with and you have nothing in common with them and instead of being your best friend and soulmate, your differences have made you separate yourselves into two different camps, with the same banner flying saying "WHAT ABOUT ME!" One may give and give and not recieve, but after time they cannot take the unfairness or the unequal status they have in the relationship.
"Unless the two agree, they cannot stand"
To all of the other Hurting people who read these words may I say, Please take your time when seeking your soulmate.
Pray, look for little signs, listen with your Spirit and not your human nature, really get to know the other person, watch how they treat others (even behind their back), look at their circle of friends(birds of a feather flock together) Examine their Church attendance/involvement/prayer life/etc.
Once you become a christian you are no longer a sinner but we all do make mistakes and fall sometimes but we pick ourselves up trust God and go forward...Noone should treat a brother or sister in Christ in a bad way or harbour bad feelings towards them...The scripture say if we want to place our offerings and have something in our hearts against anyone we must go to them and ask their forgiveness than take our offerings to the altar...That is the only way God will recognize our offerings, obedience is better then sacrifice. To please God is to obey Him!
All men are capable of All sin,weather saved or not! I would be carefull about pointing out the sins of others,you might just find you are guilty the same.Just as guilty is a woman who puts up with allowing that abuse against her.She should not put up with it for any reason.Happens once,leave,file charges,and don't put yourself in that danger again.Doesn't meen you don't forgive.But you are to love yourself also,you are commanded to.In loving yourself you don't allow anyone to abuse you,not for the sake of kids,not for the sake of perceived love.Doesn't meen you divorce,just meens you leave.It may just be the wake up call he needs.If you are in an abusive relationship,you really need to see what it is in you that draws that type of person.I'm not blaming a woman for a man's abuse.Yet there is more likelly than not a history of abuse to the woman that draws her to that type of person.It brings on a sort of normalcy that she is used to.It is a subconcious effect of comfort,as in a child abused by the very ones they love.But in all,seak peace,seak love!Be love my brothers and sisters!
I believe that if we do not seek the Lord with all our hearts and have our house built upon the rock it wont stand .I know in my own life I need the Lord to continue to make changes in me.I can do nothing apart from the Lord
Listen every person who confesses Jesus is not a Christian to God. Atleast that is what Jesus said. John said if you do not love men, how can a person say they love God because men are made in His image, we ought to love them...Further, If someone is not crusified in Christ how can they love their wives or spouses as He loves us the Church. IMPOSSIBLE you know.
So, consider who you are calling a Christian man. If that man is not crusified and living for the good and happiness of thier family, the bible calls them woarse than infadels.
Jesus said that when He comes that he will still not judge any man, but the words that he has spoken to us while here in the flesh... Those are the words that will judge them...Yikes you know. God is good all the time, but His words are the final words on many subjects. We will see and rejoice, all men live forever choose this day who you follow and obey.
It has been my contention that a man cannot out love a Godly woman who loves him. The Word of God tells husbands to love their wives three times but never mentions it to the ladies! So what I see is love comes naturally for a woman and men do not listen very well. Sadly some of my brothers only read what they want to in Gods Beautiful Word. Such as, the wife is subject to her husband and they leave it at that. These men a in my opinion do not understand Gods Law of what we sew is what we reap. They live of life of selfishness.
We are to give our sisters in the Lord Jesus the highest esteem, honor and respect and in return my brothers we will find a women who will stand by you, respect you, honor you, and love you beyond your wildest dreams. :yay::yay: cool huh
I want to pray for the person who started this Post. Lord Jesus, I stand before you sadden and hurt that somewhere a man of God hurt this person. Lord, bring a true man of God and demonstrate to this person that all of us are not hurtful, mean, or angry. Show this person many of us want to honor our sisters in every way we can. By praying for her and with her, covering her with the Word of God, washing her with the Word of God, daily. We want and desire her to feel happy and secure in our arms, not fearful. Lord help these men who hurt this person to see their actions so they too can change and ask you for forgiveness. Forgive them Lord. I do want to see them in Heaven praising you.
Samson, I agree with you. People get a little touchy when a Christian only Slightly Discerns and they will call it judging. It mentions this in the word, the 'Bible.' If I were you, I'd just bow out politely and pray for the ones who are blind to what God states He wants us to do in order to get to heaven.
I'm out of it because you cannot talk to people like this.
WOW. I've read almost all of the posts. This is a sad argument.
First: To make a blatant statemet of " Christian men treat women the worst" is inflamitory, incorrect, biased (it's fairly obvious) slanted, and on it's own, just a comment, but infers accuracy and some sort of poll taken of the entire Christian world.
Although I will agree I have seen men (and women alike) treating each other with distain. This is clearly not of God. period.
And to do so willfully, repeatedly and even AFTER being approached by others, shown their ways, counselled,repremanded, it is abominable.
Many of the speakers here seem to want to identify a problem and a solution to it by citing 1, 2, or 3 passages (sometimes as little as a phrase).
I caution you, taking Gods words out of context only shows others your "legality" and "religious" towards christianity and does not inform them of Gods Love.
Just stop and sit still and read John 3:16. Sit still and let it absorb. Please stop making GOD cry!
If you want to get to the bottom of your discussion. STICK to the subject and stop delineating, and side stepping like a schoolroom full of college stugents trying to get a good grade in class.
The Bible is simple. It is written in a manner for the simple to understand as well as the educated (so long as those educated do NOT put THEIR brains ABOVE Gods word.)
Hanging a sign that says Christian around ones neck does not make him a Christian and more that appearing in church every single sunday.
IF you walk like Him ...
If you turn your cheek so many times you feel you can not turn it any longer, what happens next is solely between you and GOD and no other person on this earth in cluding any "post" on an internet.
So IF you have a problem making a deceision as a Christian, seek good honest assistance from clergy face to face where you can tell ALL your secrets for a clear direction.
I will say this ... If one of you has an objection to my post, don't respond to me. Put you heart and face where it belongs. In your book. Between the pages of your Bible.
There is not one single question that is not answered there.
Clearly.
To the literal ones. throw away you concordances if you are useing them in a manner in which God would not approve.
Me?
I'm a carpenter.
Now, stop intrepreting GOD. HE did not ask you to.
His words are quite clear.
Remember ... "...anyone who adds to or takes away..."
