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Moonlight7
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Political ForumPosted : 29 May, 2020 04:03 PMSome Christians feel they don't need to vote in general elections. |
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Political ForumPosted : 15 Jun, 2020 11:04 AMOk, I'm really confused. The only person that I can see talking about not voting is Moonlight, and she's seems to be generally against that. How did not voting get dragged into this conversation? Why are we talking about not voting? |
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RetroMillennial^
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Political ForumPosted : 15 Jun, 2020 05:14 PMHey Barnowl, it's been a couple days since you posted, but I hope you get to see this. It's got to be hard being in a place that has your beliefs so badly outnumbered. However, there have been some things I've heard that give me some hope that California might surprise a lot of people this year at the polls, so don't give up. Even when you're outnumbered, you remain the reminder that other ideals need to be considered, other points of view need to be heard. Unlike Hollywood that would like to believe they are the conscience of the nation, it's the followers of Christ that are the real conscience of the country. The Founders of this nation considered voting to not just be a right, but a responsibility, that through the prayerful decisions of all involved, the proper leaders would be selected. CA may stay blue in November, but there have been times when it has gone red. I think there is room for you and other Californians that feel they live in a state that never represents their values to have hope that their voices will be heard this year loud and clear! |
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Alligator
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Political ForumPosted : 15 Jun, 2020 06:43 PMIvy, this entire thread is about VOTING or Not Voting... "Some Christians feel they don't need to vote in general elections. |
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Political ForumPosted : 15 Jun, 2020 06:55 PMAh, I see, now. Thanks for pointing that out, Al. I don't know how I missed that. If it was a snake, it would have bit me. |
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Quiznos
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Political ForumPosted : 16 Jun, 2020 12:41 AMHi gator, |
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RetroMillennial^
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Political ForumPosted : 16 Jun, 2020 03:51 AMNo worries CountryIvy. This thread has about 3 discussions overlapping and is starting to get confusing. Besides, Quiznos seems to be missing this too. |
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RetroMillennial^
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Political ForumPosted : 16 Jun, 2020 04:06 AMAll of that having been said, if pastors and leaders continue to refrain from becoming political in the pulpit, it is by their own choice to keep the tension down in a mixed congregation. Sometimes when a church goes in a direction politically that someone (especially someone in the leadership) doesn't like, that person will leave in a huff. They will do it loudly, sometimes publicly, try to take others with them, and essentially do as much damage to the church on the way out as they can. Many pastors fear this, especially when their evaluations in the church hierarchy depends on whether the church is growing or not. We can discuss (in a different thread) whether pastors are right or wrong to hold their tongues on these issues, but at least the pressure is not necessarily coming from the government anymore. |
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Moonlight7
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Political ForumPosted : 16 Jun, 2020 04:54 AMQuiznos move on this thread is on Voting! |
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Political ForumPosted : 16 Jun, 2020 08:35 AMWhy are you guys trying to separate the Bible and Christianity into its own sphere? That's not right. The Bible and the Christian worldview should inform every part of your life. Being a Christian isn't something that you just do at church. |
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Alligator
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Political ForumPosted : 16 Jun, 2020 11:12 AMIvy, I agree its part of everything we do. But subjects can be separated out. for example, parents might disagree with schools and want to homeschool. nothing in the Bible answers that, so they have to search their hearts, and decide how to school their children. Pray about it discuss it...but it can be separated out from Bible talk. There is no guidance in the Bible about voting, that is why this subject is not under Biblical. and Quiznos acts like he knows everything. Take a couple minutes and read his entire profile. Ivy, you will discover that he really is a troublemaker. |
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