Author	Thread: Speaking on some of Mr. Obamas policies and whether or not he is the anti christ
JehovaJirah View Profile History	Speaking on some of Mr. Obamas policies and whether or not he is the anti christ Posted : 23 Oct, 2009 01:10 PM Im so tired of being told that Im racist for criticizing or suspecting Mr. Obama. To me, the ones who accuse everybody of being racist for criticizing him are the racist ones! Why cant I just disagree with the president because what he is doing I feel is wrong? Why does it have to be about the color of his skin? If Mr. Obama were white or Arab or Jewish or Hispanic I would feel the same way as I do about his agendas and policies as I do now. It has NOTHING to do with his skin color! I'm so TIRED of people using the race card to scare and intimidate others out of speaking out for what they believe in. To me that is racist. Its just as racist to give someone special privileges, protection, and reservations based solely on there skin color as it is to deny someones rights based solely on their skin color! I know that there are people who probably hate him because he is black and those people are WRONG. There are good and bad people of every race and to hate an entire people group is bigotry and is rightfully disputed as racism. But it is stupid and unfair to accuse and label ANYONE who disagrees with Mr. Obama as being a racist and I find it really insulting. As Americans we should be past all the stupid race issues. So when I say that racism is stupid I am not only speaking about the people who hate solely because of race, I am also speaking to the people who try and label anyone who disagrees with our president as racist. For they are just as guilty of being racist for loving someone for the reason of race alone as the people who hate for the reason of race alone! Lets grow up America and leave the idiotic and unproductive race card at home. Both sides need to do this. I feel the people who voted for Mr. Obama just because he was black are just as racist and foolish as those who refused to vote for him just because he was black. On a totally different note i feel it is wise to watch our world leaders and pay attention to what they are doing because the bible does promise that an anti-christ will appear. Mr. Obama has done and said some things that could warrant suspicion, and arouse attention. I will be watching him closely. On the same note though I feel it is unfair to Mr. Obama to label him the anti-christ. That is an attack on his character that no one deserves unless they truly ARE the ant-christ. If he truly is the evil one, then the Lord will make it known to us as is promised by the Apostle Paul in the book of Thessalonians. But until I can say without a doubt that Barak Obama truly is the anti-christ I REFUSE to label him so. There is nothing wrong with paying attention, studying the facts, and watching our leaders closely. We know that there WILL be an anti-christ and any world leader could possibly be him, but lets not jump the gun here. His Policies seem dangerous to me and I will watch them closely. But I'm not going to make that accusation unfairly, it isn't right. Now let me state a few reasons for my concerns with Mr. Barak Obama now that I have made it clear that I'm not accusing him of being the anti-christ and I'm not speaking out of racism. Mr. Obama's health care plan is liable to tax the American tax payers into poverty and put the government in a position to decide on who is "worthy" enough for quality medical treatment. This could lead to the elderly, the mentally ill, people with infirmities of all kinds and the obese to be denied medical treatment. That scares me and Im just being honest. It scares me because that is EXACTLY what Hitler did. He weeded out the weak and passed judgement on people deciding whether or not they were worthy of life saving treatment. Placing government bureaucrats over the health system is a huge mistake in my opinion. His hate crimes bill also scares me. I don't feel like sexual orientation should be elevated to the level of race. Violent crimes are ALL motivated by hate and should be prosecuted. Gay, straight, transexual, it doesnt matter if someone is assaulted they should be protected under the law and thier assailants punished, there doesnt need to be a provision written in the law elevating a certain people group over others. This bill will lead to infringement on American's religious freedoms. Personally I believe homosexuality, in all of its forms is morally wrong. The bible teaches that view clearly. But with this new hate crimes law what I just wrote is considered hate speech. And before you agree with them on calling this hate speech let me explain myself and how I feel about homosexuality. I feel homosexuality is wrong. I will never change my opinion on that. I would even willingly face imprisonment or even death before I would change my opinion on the issue. The bible clearly teaches that it is sin, and there are multiple occasions in the bible that God enters into judgment on societies that have embraced homosexuality. Don't believe me? read the story of Sodom and Gomorrah or the story of the levite and his concubine in the book of judges. That being said, while I do feel that life style is wrong, I don't hate homosexuals. God created every one of them just as he has done with me, and Jesus died for every one of them just as he has done for me. God does not "hate fags" as so many "christian" protesters have claimed. Those people make me sick and they will receive there just reward for passing there judgment on others in such a way. No on the contrary God LOVES homosexuals. He doesn't love there sin but he loves them. God sees all sin as the same. It is all considered rebellion in His book. God hates all sin. He hates idol worship (people worshiping false Gods, themselves, money, drugs) He hates lying and adultery and hatred JUST as much as he hates homosexuality. We are ALL guilty of sin and no one will find themselves in better standing with God concerning their sin whatever it may be than those who choose a homosexual lifestyle. Only Jesus can reconcile us with God and he is just as willing to reconcile the homosexual as he is any other sinner. I would never harm or assault a person for being gay just as I would never harm someone for drinking and getting drunk or doing drugs or lying. It is not my place to pass that sort of judgment. But the hate crimes law classifies what I just said as hate speech, although I am not even speaking out of hate but out of my own personal convictions and religious beliefs. You will not find me at some one's funeral insulting there family and disgracing there memory just because the deceased was homosexual. You will not find me "gay bashing" or harming others because they are homosexual. You will not find me holding a sign that says "God hates all fags". Never. I feel the people who do those things are out of line, are not following what the bible teaches, and are hurting the mission and message of the Lord Jesus Christ who died on the cross for ALL of our sins not just a select few. It is not my job to be judge, or jury, or executioner, and I firmly stand on that statement. But I do HAVE a right to believe in the bible. And now Mr. Obamas hate crimes bill threatens my right to BELIEVE homosexuality is wrong because the bible says so and I believe the bible came from God. The bill threatens pastors and churches and bible teachers. It is literally forcing someone elses view that homosexuality is ok down our throats, and that my friends, is unconstitutional. It is a dangerous road to go down and i cant help but feel that this will end up being an attack on the church and our right to believe in what the bible says. So yes Mr. Obama you are scaring me, i dont hate Mr. Obama and like I said I am not accusing him of being the anti-christ, but he sure is making me uneasy with all these laws he is pushing that seem to go against the US constitution. Sorry for such a long rant but I felt it all needed to be said. Post Reply
View Profile History	Speaking on some of Mr. Obamas policies and whether or not he is the anti christ Posted : 2 Nov, 2009 12:15 AM Our ancesters learned how to domesticate Wild Boars, which are extremely vicious and dangerous. They first placed food in a clearing in the forest. After doing this for several weeks the boars became accustomed to feeding there. So a long fence was erected at one end of the clearing. Food was continued to be left for the Boars and after a few more weeks another long fence was set up and connected to the existing one. This was comtinued until eventually all that was left was a gate that was closed after the Boars and the Boars really never noticed that their freedom had been taken away. If the Liberals continue to have their way, government will keep growing and our liberties will keep diminishing until we have no control over our lives and are totally dependent on the government. Sound familiar? It is call Communisim! Won't happen here you say? Post Reply
View Profile History	Speaking on some of Mr. Obamas policies and whether or not he is the anti christ Posted : 11 Nov, 2009 03:30 PM The honest truth is people said John F.Kennedy was the anti-christ because he was catholic.Back then the pope was said to be a form of the anti-christ.many of your outside friends will tell you Obama is very conservative.We have not yet had a real liberal president.Obama will ride the fence.Any bill he makes has to get approval.Their are many prolife democartes that are in disagreement on the abortion issue with the party.The health plan is being changed to include no funding for women who want abortions.The prolife democrates are forcing the party to take a stand.Pray about this friends.Something is happening in that party. A show down on several issues are acurring. Post Reply
View Profile History	Speaking on some of Mr. Obamas policies and whether or not he is the anti christ Posted : 13 Nov, 2009 09:21 PM Revelation Chapter 13....I ....a Servant of Jesus Christ.....say There are Tree Beasts Not Two....the false prophe....the one world government......satan the anti christ....The Scriptures State Clearly The AntiChrist comes first....before Jesus returns...read 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2.....I Do Not believe tis pretribulation rapture that most do...obama wasn't obama till 1993 ....he was and is bary soento and is in my belief a muslim....I know where he went to school...I know two of his teachers...and I know of his writings at Occidental....he is not the antichrist but he is in fact the false prophet....and is of the beast from where his power comes from....I believe the deadly wound described in Revelation ch 13 is not a wound to a person or a supernatural impostor ....it is THE DEADLY WOUND TO A POLITICAL SYSTEM BARY IS FORMING NOW...THE WORLD GOERNMENT...THE WORLD JUDGES....THIS POLITICAL SYSTEM WOULD DIE A DEATH WHEN BARY IS EXPOSED AS A DUAL CITIZEN OF KENYA AND GREAT BRITTAIN....THIS INFORMATION IS ALREADY EXPOSED...THE ANTICHRIST IS THE ONE THAT STATES "I AM GOD FROM THE TEMPLE IN JERUSALEM"....IT IS WRITTEN.....READ DANIEL..... Post Reply
View Profile History	Speaking on some of Mr. Obamas policies and whether or not he is the anti christ Posted : 17 Nov, 2009 03:01 PM WHY DON'T PEOPLE READ THEIR BIBLE.ANTI-CHRIST COMES UP OUT OF THE CHURCH,OR A CHURCH.THERE IS GOD'S TRUE CHURCH AND THEN THERE'S A FAULSE CHURCH.READ DANIEL AND ASK GOD TO SHOW YOU WHAT IT SAY'S.ANTI-CHRIST WILL COME UP OUT OF THE CHURCH OF ROME. READ YOUR BIBLE AND LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD AND HISTORY OF THE CHURCH OF ROME. Post Reply
ggwearsjeans View Profile History	Speaking on some of Mr. Obamas policies and whether or not he is the anti christ Posted : 18 Nov, 2009 09:16 PM The voice of reason... Post Reply
ggwearsjeans View Profile History	Speaking on some of Mr. Obamas policies and whether or not he is the anti christ Posted : 18 Nov, 2009 09:18 PM The reply was in response to Mr. Christian's post Post Reply
View Profile History	Speaking on some of Mr. Obamas policies and whether or not he is the anti christ Posted : 14 Dec, 2009 10:51 AM mr christian amen to that! Post Reply
vickiecamp1 View Profile History	Speaking on some of Mr. Obamas policies and whether or not he is the anti christ Posted : 17 Dec, 2009 09:24 PM As far as the health care bill? I do believe it is nothing more than an attempt at socialism and his whole "health care campaign" is opening the door to secualism. Just what this country needs, gov't run everything and a denial of God! Oh boy are we headed for Christ's return at a fast pace or what? As far as him being the anti-christ? The bible tells us there will be many antichrists before the "big man" comes into the picture and frankly I don't have to worry about it because I won't be here! I do worry about my loved ones that do not have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ however, and I feel sad thinking about them having to go through what is creeping up on us. I praise God every day for people like Glenn Beck, Hal Lindsey, and Perry Stone as they are telling Americans the honest to God truth! No more lying Mr. President! I knew there were going to be problems when I heard him say that the Jews are "occupying" Jeruselam. It became apparent to me that someone does not read his bible, and that someone happens to be in charge of what was once our beautiful nation. Another thing that I discovered is he has a father and step-father that are Muslims. This does not mean he has the same religion (which is centered around hate for the Jews) but it certainly makes me think and is scares me:prayingm:. Post Reply
vickiecamp1 View Profile History	Speaking on some of Mr. Obamas policies and whether or not he is the anti christ Posted : 17 Dec, 2009 09:44 PM Hello friends in Christ! Why in the world would God who loves us want to have us go through the tribulation? That just does not make any sense to me. 1Thessalonians 1:10 tells us "Jesus, whom God has raised from the dead is the one who has rescued us from the COMING JUDGEMENT". I can only watch and look upward as I wait for his return. Also if interested, check out Romans 5:9 "And since we have been made right in God's sight by the blood of Christ, he will certainly save us from God's judgement", and Revelations 3:10 "Because you have obeyed my command to persevere, I will protect you from the great time of testing that will come upon the whole world to test those who belong to this world". So I feel very assured by GOD"S WORD WHICH IS TRUTH that we will not see the antichrist nor go through the horrors that are being laid out before us with the help of the Obama administration and the other nations. Post Reply
JehovaJirah View Profile History	Speaking on some of Mr. Obamas policies and whether or not he is the anti christ Posted : 20 Jan, 2010 03:21 PM I suppose it just depends how you would interpret the scripture. The rapture is never directly mentioned in the bible and the idea of the rapture comes from mainly two places. Jesus tells a parable where he mentions people disappearing in Matthew 24:40 and 1 Thessalonians when the apostle Paul says we will be "caught up" in the air at the Lords coming. Paul never specifies when this event will occur and neither does Jesus in fact Jesus describes many hardships and promises us persecution and danger for his name's sake before he even mentions people disappearing.. He never says it will occur before or after the tribulation period. The fact is, is that there is no real way to know when it will occur and I think God meant for it to be that way. Jesus said that no one would know the day or the hour of his coming, but at the same time Jesus implies that we can know the season of his coming or the general era or time period in Matthew 24 by telling us the signs to look for when the end comes. If you look in the book of revelation, during the opening of the seven seals, the fifth seal is the martyrdom of the saints. That means Christians will die. And since the scripture never says WHEN the event will occur, then we cant assume that we will not be the ones who have to die for the faith and meet the world system and the Antichrist in our own life times. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with hoping in a pretrib rapture but we must keep in mind that there is no real way of knowing for certain and that we may have to be prepared to face the hardship of the tribulation. At least some of it. We may still have to die for the faith and no where in scripture does Jesus promise us otherwise. It is impossible for one to say that they know for sure whether or not it is pre trib, post trib, or mid trib rapture, we simply do not know when it will happen and God meant for it to be that way, so that we would stay prepared, and stay faithful even through hardship or even the horror of death. But then again if one knows Christ what is death anyway? A release to paradise? To die is gain, as the apostle Paul would say. So just remember that we cant put our chips all in any of those theories. Because that's exactly what they are theories. Rapture theories is what I like to call them. We should be prepared to live through hardship and still keep the faith, even if that hardship is the tribulation time period, because there IS a possibility that we will have to face that and the signs of the times are becoming more and more evident, and if we get a pre trib rapture and we dont have to face the tribulation, then Ill be all for that, but I am going to be prepared for anything.... Post Reply

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