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Posted : 15 Aug, 2020 09:10 AM
Regarding the KKK being started by the Democratic Party I have a little historical context that may help prove your point that I'd like to share if I may...
So far as I know, this is correct. Their first "Grand Wizard" was a man named Nathan Bedford Forrest. He fought on the side of the Confederacy during the Civil War and was a pledge delegate to the Democrat National Committee. In the latter half of the 19th century, the KKK has been referred to as the "domestic terrorist arm of the Democratic Party." I used to think the mainstream media was their modern day equivalent, but with the violence from BLM and Antifa, the mainstream media might have some competition for that title!
The DNC was at one time referred to as the Klan Bake because so many of the people in attendance were associated with them. Their ranks surged when the Dem. party refused to condemn the Klan in their platform under the leadership of Woodrow Wilson, who was quoted directly in the film "The Birth of a Nation" which was the first film screened in the White House by Pres. Wilson and was used as a Klan recruitment video.
Robert Bird was known as the "Conscience of the Senate" but he was also a known KKK recruiter and helped with the 75 hour filibuster against the Civil Rights Act of 1964. At his funeral in 2010, Bill Clinton said in his eulogy that you "couldn't blame" him for being in the KKK in those days because back then you HAD TO be in the Klan to advance in the Democratic Party. (******What????******) How many political parties do we know of that required you be part of a HATE GROUP to advance in their ranks????
Do the Republicans have anything that matches? No. They were founded in 1854 as an anti slavery party and their 9 point platform (you can see it at Wallbuilders) is all about emancipation and equal rights for blacks and all people regardless of race.
Recently, I saw a representative named Louie Gohmert (R) propose a resolution to ban any group from the House of Representatives under the same law Nancy Pelosi pushed to get passed that allowed for busts, paintings, and statues of those tied to racism to be removed and donated to the Library of Congress. For the history I just described, this would mean the Democratic Party would be banned from the House of Representatives until they disbanded or changed their name!
portland oregon is still in head need this morning 82 days if looting and burning property.
Posted : 15 Aug, 2020 10:35 PM
A very good point. My response would be the same as it is any time someone might suggest that I'm part of a group that has or is committing atrocities. I say: "Prove it." It's not my job to prove the Republican Party's innocence of those accusations. As the accusers, it's their job to prove Republicans' guilt. However, I did make a case for the Democrat Party's guilt. It would probably still be wise to take a look at the historical records of where this argument of a "big switch," comes from and why it's a complete farce.
First of all, talking about the roles of racism and oppression switching sides between the Democrats and the Republicans is kind of like saying that you're going to tell me about the day that all the cops became robbers and all the robbers became cops. An absurd notion to begin with.
The Big Switch argument is fueled from three major things that have happened in history: 1: Black voters who once voted almost unanimously for Republicans today vote mostly for Democrats. 2: Some members of the racist Dixiecrat wing of the Democrat Party became Republicans. 3: They cite that Richard Nixon had a "southern strategy" that appealed to the racists in the south. However, these things did not happen in ways that indicate that there was any such polarity switch in American politics.
First, #1: When did the black vote convert to the Democrat party? If it really was that they saw their new friends among the Democratic Party, it should have happened somewhere around the 1960s when the Civil Rights act, Voting Rights Act, and Free Housing Bill were passed, around the time that the "racist south" started converting to the Republican Party. It's worth noting that those pieces of legislation were supported by Republicans in greater percentages than Democrats and the 1964 act was filibustered for 75 hours by Democrats.
Nevertheless, the 1960s is not when the Black vote changed to the Democrats in such large numbers. So when did the Black vote switch? It switched during the years of the Great Depression because of the New Deal. Republicans believed then as they do now in not interfering with the market. They believed that it would recover on its own after the stock market crash that led to the Great Depression.
However, Democrats believed that it required help to recover, and since the Black community was still suffering from Jim Crow laws that were all passed by Democratic governors and legislators, they got hit hardest by the Great Depression, and during the coarse of Franklin Roosevelt's terms as president, they reluctantly started voting for Democrats because they believed that they were in too precarious a position to wait for the market to recover on its own. By Roosevelt's last election, he basically had all of the Black Vote. Many of them were sad to switch their vote because they knew they were leaving the party of Lincoln and emancipation for the party of the KKK and Jim Crow.
Later, Linden Johnson, infamous for frequently using racial slurs and reported by an Air Force One flight attendant for saying "I'm going to have them [very nasty slur I refuse to post] voting Democrat for the next 200 years," ensured that the Black community, and the inner city community in general would be always beholden to the government, relying on it for all their needs in life.
Many Blacks today who learn of these things immediately change their voting patterns, and often receive a lot of racist trolling as a result, from the Democrats and many times from their own friends and families who still haven't learned this history. There are several people today who are more than happy to tell their stories publicly, like Carol Swain, Candace Owens, Larry Elder, and Brandon Tatum.
#2: There were some racist Democrats who switched to the Republican Party, but how many? Only a very scant handful. In the upper echelon of the legislative branch, there are only two who went from Democrat to Republican, the most famous of which is Strom Thurmond.
So why did he switch? Would it surprise you to learn that he switched because of a sincere change of heart? When he walked away from the Democrats, he had a recent conversion to Christianity and had actually left his racism behind! In fact, he hired several Blacks to work in his office, not as token Blacks, like the one Woodrow Wilson kept around in the White House to lick stamps or do some other meaningless job so that he could say he had Black employees.
Thurmond hired Blacks to key advisor and strategy positions in his team. When the "Big Switch" is composed of barely enough people to count on your fingers and toes, I wouldn't call that a "Big Switch." I call that a few changed minds, and I know of no Republicans who switched to Democrats during that time. And no, finding a couple wouldn't constitute a big switch either.
"But wait," I hear someone say. "What about David Duke?" What of him? He's persona-non-grata among conservatives and in an interview with Dinesh D'Sousa, he demonstrated that he holds views more in line with the Democratic Party than the Republican party.
Let's also not forget that Democrat KKK members is not ancient history. Robert Bird died in 2010. Hillary Clinton called him a mentor. President Obama said that "The arc of his life bent toward justice." Bird never switched to the Republican Party. He was a Democrat when he was in the Klan. He was a Democrat when he helped filibuster the Civil Rights Act, and he was a Democrat when he died after the "arc of his life" had bent toward justice.
#3: Nixon's Southern Strategy. First, the south was becoming more industrial and less agrarian when Nixon was running, which often leads to more modernization and a stronger sense of affluence. As this happened, many who found their values turning to being upwardly mobile were already starting to turn from their racist ways when Nixon was campaigning for president. It was a process that would continue beyond Nixon through the 70s and into the Reagan years.
Why did they switch to the Republican party, then? In large part, it was because their values included strong ties to Christianity, which is more in line with conservative values. I'm always puzzled why Christian belief was not enough to convince plantation owners to renounce slavery, but the mention of servants and slavery in the Bible without the outright declaration that it was evil apparently became a justification, and try as we might, we're still human and prone to justifying something we know is wrong any way we can.
Anyway, back to Nixon: Nixon's campaigns emphasized things like law and order, which may bring images of the inner city and minority races to mind today, but in the late 60s and early 70s, the hippie movement was in full swing. Law and order referred to the unrest stirred by protests against the Vietnam War, which was not a racial issue at all.
It is generally true that Nixon had his own little prejudices that affected his personal life, but these things did not appear to affect his policy decisions as president, regardless of his apparent lack of character and paranoia about getting reelected. His administration enacted one of the first affirmative action programs, so if he was a racist, he didn't exactly do a very good job at it.
Besides, the states that were still largely racist during that time were in the deep south, and Nixon didn't win those states in that election. So, if there was a racist appeal to the south on the part of Nixon's campaign, it didn't really work.
What do you think? Does that answer things pretty well?
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