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Posted : 30 Apr, 2011 07:30 PM

Don't want anybody to be in the dark! The last discussion Twosparrows TRIED to have is on page 3 entitled Strange Stuff. He respectlfully asked in his very last thread for people to leave a topic on page one long enough to be able to "discuss". Because a couple women didn't like the topic, they posted back to back just to get him off the page. Check out Strange Stuff, do your own reseach on it in the Bible, and when Two gets back, maybe he can post it in the science section and be able to stay on page one long enough for people to get involved( (other than the ones who don't like the thread). LOL

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Posted : 1 May, 2011 04:55 AM

Hi! I haven't been posting here lately. I read your post and then went and read the thread that had moved to page 3 as you suggested. Very fascinating.



He asked:



The Bible says Eve was beguiled (deceived or seduced) by the Serpent.



The Bible says Satan has "seed"



The Bible says the "Sons of God" (angels) took human wives



The Bible says the offspring of the Sons of God and the daughters of men were Giants.







� So can Satan procreate? Can fallen Angels? Has mankind�s DNA been corrupted? Are the spirits of these hybrids eternal or mortal?

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Posted : 1 May, 2011 07:18 AM

Thanks Grace! ~~~~~~ The following scriptures were also posted.~~~~~ _____________________________ Genesis 6- 1&2 ---- And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, .......... That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. ~~~ (In the Old Testament , "sons of God always refers to angels)

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Posted : 1 May, 2011 07:35 AM

The Bible says the offspring of the sons of God were giants. _____________________________ Genesis 6:4 ~~ The Nephilim were on the earth in those days-- and also afterward-- when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were heroes of old, men of renown. ~~~~~ ~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~ Nephilim= Giants/ Fallen Ones/ Those Who Came Down

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Posted : 1 May, 2011 08:45 AM

Could Jude 6 be talking about the'sons of God' who went in unto the daughters of men? ____________________________ ' And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day'.

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Posted : 1 May, 2011 11:17 AM

I think what you are asking about is verses that are hard to translate.



First off, we have to remember a rule of translation called the rule of faith. Meaning that the Word of God does NOT contradict itself.



If you have a verse that is unclear, and that IS what we are dealing with here....then your UNclear verse should NOT contradict the clear verses.





For instance you were saying the "Sons of God" married women, and had children, etc.



Well, Jesus SAID that Angels "Do not marry". So, therefore, "Sons of God" CANNOT mean "angels".



There are three theories that have been proposed over the centuries, and I think the best one is that "Sons of God" just meant prince's or rulers. These men were powerful men on Earth, and they had harems, and their sons, grew up to be powerful, ruling men also.



I realize that is not exciting like interpreting it to mean their were 8ft tall people, because of some inter breeding with Angels, but the angels view contradicts a plain statement of Jesus.





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Posted : 1 May, 2011 03:52 PM

Heavenly angels serving God were not allowed to marry or intermingle with mankind. However, fallen angels -demons are a different story. What are they allowed to do?The word does not address all issues here. It does not go into detain about Satan's rebellion and it does not discuss all the false powers of demons. It leaves one to ponder.

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Posted : 1 May, 2011 05:52 PM

That's true, Dennis. Like Two pointed out in his thread~~~ " There's a verse about angels not marrying, but those are good angels in heaven, not fallen angels and it says they "don't", not "can't". The Sons of God in the Old Testament are angels . Nothing un- clear about that to me.

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Posted : 1 May, 2011 06:34 PM

I'm still not sure who the "sons of God" are, but it's true that when that phrase is mentioned in the OT it always refers to angels or one that can present themselves before the Lord along with satan. I'm convinced they're not "godly" men. Right after they are mentioned in Genesis 6:4, God says He saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth and that He would destroy them. And after that we read that only Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

I also believe that the "giants" are literal giants. Look how tall Goliath was...And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height [was] six cubits and a span [1Samuel 17:4]. Six cubits is about 108 inches and a span is about 9 inches. That's 9.75 feet.

So many questions....

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Posted : 1 May, 2011 06:40 PM

Dennis is right, James. Scripture says that it's the angels which are in heaven that are not given in marriage. Nothing is said about the fallen ones.

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Posted : 1 May, 2011 07:47 PM

I found an article online that is very fascinating. I am not saying it is all true, but it does seem to be an option for what might have happened.

I had heard another teaching recently that suggested that Cain may have been the offspring of Eve and the serpent. I just found this article on it. It is very long so I'll just post the link to it.

Bottom-line he says, No, Cain is not the offspring of the serpent, but there could have been a plot in place to corrupt the seed of the woman to prevent the birth of Christ.

Was Cain Satan's Literal Seed?

http://www.ichthys.com/mail-Cain.htm

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