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Conversation with a Jew about the Second Coming of God Jesus
Posted : 21 Apr, 2011 11:19 AM
Conversation with a Jew about the Second Coming of God Jesus/ 'Isa Allah:
A Jew History said:
I respect there will be a difference of opinion.
I find all such conjecture (for it is only conjecture) interesting but they should never be an obsession.
Time spent on such conjectures are missed opportunities to fulfill our purpose under G-d.
This is: to help perfect/repair the world under Him through acts of justice and lovingkindness.
This is what Jews call tikkun olam.
Earth is not something one should wish to escape. This would be shirking our responsibilities as shepherds of G-d's Creation.
Life is not something one should wish to escape. Life and Creation (and G-d's Scripture) are the His greatest Gifts.
We need appreciate and care for both fully.
Chag sameach!
Respectfully,
History
I respect there will be a difference of opinion.- I love talking to you brother. Because you are a very intelligent man. But sometimes you do not allow to talk to you�However I would like to use any chance to be engaged in a dialogue with you. As I promised you I am praying every day about you to my God and ask His blessings and salvation for you.
I find all such conjecture (for it is only conjecture) interesting but they should never be an obsession.- Yes, we should analyze anything and meditate on the words of God. Because when we seek God, He will be found by us. He could be known by us and should be known.
Time spent on such conjectures are missed opportunities to fulfill our purpose under G-d.
This is: to help perfect/repair the world under Him through acts of justice and lovingkindness.
This is what Jews call tikkun olam.- Brother, Jews are right and those who live as God says are the restraining power in the world. The Bible says that a restraining power will be removed soon. What is this restraining power? Let's read about it:
2 Thessalonians 2
The Great Apostasy
1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
What does it mean? This chapter explain what should happen before the Second Coming of Jesus. Who now hinders, or restrains - ὁ κατέχων ho katechōn. This is the same word which is used in 2 Thessalonians 2:7, and rendered "withholdeth," except that it is there in the neuter gender. There can be no doubt that there is reference to the same restraining power, or the same power under the control of an individual. But what that was, let's consider it. It was some power which operated as a check on the growing corruptions then existing, and which prevented their full development, but which was to be removed at no distant period, and whose removal would give an opportunity for these corruptions to develop themselves, and for the full revelation of the man of sin/ the anti-christ. Christians believe that this restraining power is the Church of God/Organization/ Ummah or the Fellowship of believers in God Jesus. The Church of God should be taken from this world that's why there will be no restraining power in the world to support Israel. Christians will escape this earth, according to the words of Jesus. So, there will be only 2 forces in the world Muslim states and Israel/Jews. We all know that Jews do not belong to the Church of God founded by Him according to the Scripture. That's why Jews you will witness how Islam will become the world religion and Muslims will prepare to attack you and Israel under the banner of Islam and the anti-christ. But during their attack against Israel and raping of Jewish women, God Jesus will descend with the mighty angels of God and saints. Who are these saints? The rapruted Church- i.e. in other words ALL CHRISTIANS. Do you remember the prophecy said in the Tanakh how enemies of Israel and God will be destroyed during this war? Then ALL Jews will witness that Jesus was really their Messiah rejected by them and they will become a part of His Church. What is also interesting to point out is that before the Second Coming of the Messiah/Isa Al Maasih will be a group of witnesses, the 144,000 Jews, will be sealed for the work of God. They will be set aside to preach the message of salvation THROUGH the FAITH in God Jesus and they will be Christians. Many will be saved during their ministry as stated in Revelation 7:9-17. So, according to the Scripture these Jews will be christains and missionaries.
Earth is not something one should wish to escape. This would be shirking our responsibilities as shepherds of G-d's Creation.- Yes, you are right. There are many things to do on earth and the Church of God will return. We will be transformed. Our bodies will be changes and we will look like angels and Jesus. By the way His hands are pierced until today the light is coming from them as witness for you Jews and Muslims. You all will see His light coming from His hands soon. This Church will govern cities all over the world in the established Kingdom of the Messiah. According to the Scripture, He will reign here on earth for 1,000 years and we will reign with Him. We will not die because our bodies will be changed upon rapture. But we will escape this earth during the final war against Jesus when nations again will gather together to attack the second time Jerusalem..then the end will come�.but not for us. We are going to move to another world � the New Jerusalem constructed by God on a new earth where there is no sea any more�.
Life is not something one should wish to escape. Life and Creation (and G-d's Scripture) are the His greatest Gifts. We need appreciate and care for both fully.- Right. We believe that we will escape during the rapture of the Church from the terrible wrath of God against this earth�many calamities�wars and disasters..aimed to TURN HEARTS of people to God of Israel Jesus! This coming suffering is aimed to make people to RECONSIDER their godless lives and turn to the Creator Jesus.
Chag sameach!- Chag sameach, achi! Sheh-Hashem Yivarech Otcha!
Respectfully,History- Bahira Omar
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