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Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 05:21 AM

It is impossible for man to become a christian by believing reformation theology.



There can be no faith by believing:



Total inability



Unconditional election



Limited atonement



Irresistible grace



The Perseverance of the Saints



No one can come into the family of God by a lie, no one can claim legally to be a christian by saying they where regenerated by the holy ghost and then they believed



How many laughs Do you think Satan has Got from this.



Now for those that would tell me this statement is not kind, try leaving this earth and going to be with the lord based on theology of lies.



Eternity is a long time one only need to repent and confess Jesus as lord and then continue to walk in truth until they go to be with him.

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Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 07:27 AM

It doesn't matter what your theology is, it won't save you. What you believe is not what makes you saved any more than believing Mc Donalds has the best fast food makes you a hamburger.



True, theology can make you a Christian but being a Christian doesn't make you saved it just makes you religious.



On the other hand, being saved doesn't make you a Christian either unless you prefer living by religion over living by faith.

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Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 09:54 AM

As usual PhillipJohn, you are wrong.



Thunder made some good points.





NO ONE is ever saved by having the right theology.



Intellectual assent is PART of saving faith, but only PART.



We have to believe that The Bible is true, and that Jesus DID die on the cross to pay for our sins.



But, we MUST TRUST IN WHAT HE DID, to be saved.



we must COUNT ON JESUS, and not ourselves, to be right with God.



So, yes, PhillipJohn, one CAN be saved and have a Reformed theology. I should not have to even say that, but that is HOW FAR off base you are.



The Reformed not only trust in Christ alone for salvation, but they take so much care to word it precisely, that there is no doubt that they teach salvation by faith alone, through grace alone.



YOUR messed up theology is muddy, and who knows if you have faith IN Jesus or just faith in faith, like Charles Finney taught.





YOU are the one who is out of touch with the Christian faith for the last two thousand years, and instead latched on to Finney, while ignoring Christian beliefs throughout the last two thousand years.





In Christ,



James

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Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 03:13 PM

James it is not a matter of me being wrong it is what the word of God teaches relative to the topic matter.



So is anything I posted not in agreement with the word of God, absolutely not.



It is in total disagreement with reformed theology, another Gospel than what Jesus taught.

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Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 06:54 PM

James posted:

"The Reformed not only trust in Christ alone for salvation, but they take so much care to word it precisely, that there is no doubt that they teach salvation by faith alone, through grace alone."

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You are correct, however you fail to reveal that salvation by faith alone, through grace alone is only made available to those who are predestined.

Opps, Epic Fail!

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Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 07:08 PM

That is not the biggest downfall Two, faith is after regeneration, so they can never come to faith, because it will not happen as they proclaim it to be.



You will never get the holy spirit involved in a lie, he would have to act indifferent to who he is.

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Posted : 21 Apr, 2011 02:16 PM

PJ What????



Two, I don't understand your version, or whosever it is, of predestination. I believe predestination is about those who come to God in faith and they are predestined to be made into the likeness of Jesus because that is their destiny once they are saved. I doubt that God has gone to the trouble of picking out who will and who won't be saved. If He did then we would have to believe Jesus died for the sins of some but not all and that would have been a waist of his time and blood since sin entered the world and not just a few. What's more I have never read any scripture that says some of us are predestined to be saved and some are not.



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