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Discussing 1 Cor 15 vs 22-23 using 2Sparrows Methodology
Posted : 10 Apr, 2011 02:58 PM

2Sparrows posted:

' I wish people would stop trying to prove their point, instead search out the truth together.'

I would like to add that there be no name calling, keep it civil.



The scripture is I Cor 15 vs 22 & 23 :



vs 22 : For in Adam all die , even so in Christ all should be made alive

vs 23 But each one in his own order: Christ the first fruits, afterward those who are Christ's at His coming.



Is it fare to address any figurative language in the scripture?

In other words, is this a literal statement or is it figurative.

If it's figurative what type is it? Is it allegory,simile, hyperbole ect and what is the literal meaning of the figurative language?



What does die mean in vs 22?

What does made alive mean in vs 22?

What does it mean "Christ the first fruits in vs 23?"

What does "afterward those who are Christ's at His coming mean in vs 23?"

Every one is welcome to comment, please do!

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Discussing 1 Cor 15 vs 22-23 using 2Sparrows Methodology
Posted : 10 Apr, 2011 04:45 PM

Hilltop, I'm going to suggest we back it up and start at verse 20 and then continue on to verse 28.



20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ�s at His coming. 24 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27 For �He has put all things under His feet.�[a] But when He says �all things are put under Him,� it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.



You asked:

*What does die mean in vs 22?

--Because of sin, all man will die. That is not figurative but literal, the actual ending of life as we know it. Those who reject Christ as Savior will go to Hell. Those who accept Christ will go to Heaven



*What does made alive mean in vs 22?

--When we accept Jesus Christ we are reborn. Some people explain this as our soul being made alive. So this is, in a sense literal. If this is not referring to the soul being made alive, then I cannot answer your question.



*What does it mean "Christ the first fruits in vs 23?"

--Because of vs 20, I think the First fruits are the OT saints. Or it may be referring to Christ, Himself.



*What does "afterward those who are Christ's at His coming mean in vs 23?"

--I think this is referring to all of us during the age of the Church. Simply because if you read further down in verse 24 it talks about the end of the Earth, when He Delivers the Kingdom to God, meaning the Tribulation period. Not quite positive on this point either.

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Discussing 1 Cor 15 vs 22-23 using 2Sparrows Methodology
Posted : 10 Apr, 2011 05:22 PM

Thanx CW,





In verse 23 my bible,( NKJ), the margin directs me to I Thes 4 vs 15 - 17. The margin is good about connecting like scriptures.



Did you take these scriptures literally or do you think they are figurative? What is the metaphor if it's figurative?

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