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Posted : 27 Mar, 2011 09:57 AM

Brothers, let me share with you my message addressed to my Muslim brothers.



Yesterday I had a conversation with Sheikh Imam Shamsuddin Waheed. He is a righteous Muslim and his life deserves to be complimented.



He said:

"God of Israel". This phrase, and similar expressions, appear throughout the Bible. Did you know that even within the Islamic statute text [the Qur'an] that there is no such expression as 'god of the Arabs'? On the contrary, the second verse of the first Soorah [Al-Faatihah] states that God is the "Nourisher of the Universe". The word rendered "Nourisher" is "Rabb", a word meaning the one who cares for, provided, evolves to perfection. God cares for the inhabitants of all nations, provides for the whole universe. The Qur'an sees itself as being a mercy for all nations, and is NOT ETHNOCENTRIC.

Let's be frank, my dear. Jesus may or may not return, but people are dying NOW!! They are suffering NOW! And it is ideologies such as that which supports the Zionist enterprise that are making these events happen. It's a system of hypocrisy. I only respond with such strong words because I hope to get the point across.

For now, I will avoid discussing the issue of the Palestinians [even though they are central to these issues, as they are the ones who are most affected, having been displaced en masse by the efforts of those who share the same thinking of the original post], but why does religion have to be taken as some psychic hotline? Predicting the future? A future of blood and guts in order to achieve spiritual salvation?

Brothers, look what sheikh asks:� "but why does religion have to be taken as some psychic hotline? Predicting the future? A future of blood and guts in order to achieve spiritual salvation?"

First of all, let�s thank sheikh that he reminded us that the statement �God of Israel� appears throughout the Bible. But not only in the Bible but in its part called Taurat/Torah. All Muslims consider Taurat as the HOLY SCRIPTURE. That�s why all Muslims KNOW that God of our father Ibrahim and God of the prophet Moses is GOD of ISRAEL. You can love Israel or you can hate it. But we will consider today why God of Israel is going to establish His Kingdom on earth in Israel. We will consider today the Bible prophecy about the establishment of the Kingdom of God in Israel.

But do not forget that suicide bombers from Hamas or Islamic Jihad or the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, the Palestine Liberation Organization or Black September are actively involved in the religious war against Israel. Now is the question for you to ponder: There are two forces in the world � to ESTABLISH God�s Kingdom and to DESTROY state Israel where this Kingdom should be established. There are two parties involved- God of Israel and Islamic god. Why? Because God of Israel said in hundreds of prophecies on the Coming of the Messiah during the war in Israel when Muslim states will attack Israel. Let�s try to understand today why Islamic god can NOT be God of Israel. And why God speaks about Israel throughout history captured on the pages of the Holy Bible as about very important group of people called the Jewish nation.

On May 25, 2001, the Mufti of Jerusalem and Palestine," Sheikh Ikrima Sabri, stated:

"We tell [our enemies]: As much as you love life�the Muslim loves death and martyrdom. There is a great difference between him who loves the hereafter and him who loves this world. The Muslim loves death and [strives for] martyrdom."

Our brother Hassan Nasrallah, secretary general of Hezbollah, has spoken in similar terms.

In 2004, he said:

"We have discovered how to hit the Jews where they are the most vulnerable. The Jews love life, so that is what we shall take away from them. We are going to win because they love life, and we love death."

What do we see here? It is unconventional form of fighting!

This form of fighting is called in 60% of Quran as Jihad.

During such Jihad the bomber no longer respects legal rulings or laws of states, constitution. He the mujahid kills not only enemy troops but makes death itself the arbiter of who should die or not. He is judge. He takes lives of people. God give us lives but the one, or hundreds like him, are TAKING and BREAKING to pieces God�s gifts. Who were granted by our lives? Our parents. We were born to bring Glory to God but why a group of people BREAK this Plan of God?

Why Jewish children has been exploded in buses?

Why innocent people die during your Islamic war?

The innocent are not innocent.

Muslim radicals are on record stating that non-Muslims are, by definition, not innocent.

The self-immolation of the martyr makes death universal.

Yes. God gives life but a group of people confessing religion takes this life.

Does it not prove you that here is something wrong?

If you ACT AGAINST God then your religion is acting AGAINST God!

If you are found among the mujahideen then you are found guilty against God!

Why?

Because the HOLY LAW of God of Israel was declared to the prophet Moses on the Mount Sinai and it reads,

"YOU SHALL NOT KILL".

That�s why you all Muslims are found GUILTY if you violate this HOLY LAW of God.

That�s why I told you sheiks that you Muslims FLOW DOWN like OIL to hell.

No one is able to stop your violent plans under Islamic banner.

And today we will see HOW God of Israel is going to stop you.



But lets read this quote of Ahadith:

Quote:

It is reported on the authority of Sa'b b. Jaththama that the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him), when asked about the women and children of the polytheists being killed during the night raid, said: They are from them.

(Sahih Muslim Book 019, Number 4321)

Some Muslim clerics justify shahyds on political, moral, and religious grounds. Even those attackers who bomb and kill women and children are hailed as martyrs for their heroism in confronting the enemy. But now let�s ask a question: if Islam is the religion of peace (as you Muslims believe), then what inspires the terrorists? What inspires religion leaders calling people to Jihad against Israel? What inspires political leaders? Peace?! No. Islamic revelations gathered in Quran and Ahadith. Jihad and PEACE are contrary actions! If you KILL you do not have anything to do with peace. If your religion calls you for killings then your religion could NOT be called religion of Peace! Note: homicide bombers do not commit their atrocities out of emotions, but out of the core doctrines of Islam: the Last Day and life after death. They all DREAM to be accepted by Allah during the Judgment Day! They all dream to be forgiven of all their sins! They all dream to enter the Paradise. But they do NOT know that Allah was NEVER in Islam! He is Allah of our father Ibrahim and Moses who said: YOU SHALL NOT KILL!!!!!

Every one, who violates God�s laws, is GUILY. How this man can enter the paradise? They even do not know that God desires to establish His Kingdom in Jerusalem! They even do not know that fight against Jerusalem and Israelites is a fight AGAINST God.

Brothers, let me remind you the holy words of God:

�Up, Zion! Escape, you who dwell with the daughter of Babylon.�

For thus says the LORD of hosts:

�He sent Me after glory, to the nations which plunder you;

for he who touches you touches the apple of His eye.�

Zechariah 2:7-8

What does it mean? It means that suicide attacks, military operations or "martyrdom operations" against Israel are considered by God as WAR AGAINST God.

Where is the truth between the two extremes?

LOVE or KILLINGS?

God of LOVE and god of death?

God of Israel or god of jihad?

We all KNOW the answer:

Everything what is against our conscience is against us and thus it is against God.

Jesus and His disciples through the first three centuries turned the world upside down by simple proclamation of their faith in God Jesus, not by butchering with swords (or by threatening to butcher with swords) people who opposed their ministry! On the other hand, Muhammad is foundational to Islam, and he says that a martyr�s death in the cause/war of Allah guarantees heaven. The contrast between the two religions is stark. The Way of Jesus Christ leads to LOVE, life and the light. Muhammad�s way leads to death and darkness as we know it according to history captured on the pages of Quran and Hadith!

Christians want Heaven, and they are assured of it by the atoning death of God Jesus Christ on the cross. He was killed on the cross and He took the sin of the world to make us FREE of our sins and to ensure our FREE entrance to the Kingdom of God. God Jesus gives us FREEDOM.

But death by martyrdom in a qital/war is the way of Islam.

Surrender to God Jesust is far better, for He produces divine love and true inner peace. But there is NO PEACE in Islam! Revelations of Muhammad conveniently support his wars and cover crimes of Muslims who are blinded by Islam!

What we see in Islam? Since the Qur'an commends violence and the Hadith is steeped in the blood of martyrs, killing and dying violently are not breaches of the moral code or infringements of divine law. They are, on the contrary, regarded as some of the highest achievements of Islamic spirituality. Now, sheikh Shamsuddin, looking into the eyes of Islamic allah in Islamic scriptures, we are able to see Islamic spirituality you all TRY to GAIN.

Asked who was the best of people,

Muhammad replied,

the "believer who fights in the path of God with his self and his property."

Muhammad ibn Isma'il al-Bukhari, Sahih al-Bukhari (Lahore: Kazi, 1979), hadith 2578

Brothers, dear sheikh, you all should KNOW that HOLINESS could not be gained by killings!

Holiness is a present of Allah through FAITH in the TRUE ALLAH.

This TRUE Allah never was in Islam. He is Allah of Israel and

He said in this prophecy below that He- Allah- will be DEFENCE and WALL of fire around Jerusalem.

For I,� says the LORD, �will be a wall of fire all around her,

and I will be the glory in her midst.��

Zechariah 2:5



That�s why brothers the way of shuhada is NOT the way of God for you! Because God said that He will send His Son to dwell in Jerusalem and rule over it. Our "God is a consuming fire." Hebrew 12:29 and this fire will devour every sinner and every fighter who starts war against Allah of Israel. Let�s read about it in the prophecy I mentioned above which was said by God about His Son Jesus. Jesus will shake His hand against His enemies. That�s why do not be among them and escape His Coming WRATH against idol worship and crimes of Islam. Commit your heart to God Jesus and be FREE of all your sins through FAITH in Him:



Zechariah 2 (New King James Version)

Zechariah 2

Vision of the Measuring Line

1 Then I raised my eyes and looked, and behold, a man with a measuring line in his hand. 2 So I said, �Where are you going?�

And he said to me, �To measure Jerusalem, to see what is its width and what is its length.�

3 And there was the angel who talked with me, going out; and another angel was coming out to meet him, 4 who said to him, �Run, speak to this young man, saying: �Jerusalem shall be inhabited as towns without walls, because of the multitude of men and livestock in it. 5 For I,� says the LORD, �will be a wall of fire all around her, and I will be the glory in her midst.��

Future Joy of Zion and Many Nations

6 �Up, up! Flee from the land of the north,� says the LORD; �for I have spread you abroad like the four winds of heaven,� says the LORD. 7 �Up, Zion! Escape, you who dwell with the daughter of Babylon.�

8 For thus says the LORD of hosts: �He sent Me after glory, to the nations which plunder you; for he who touches you touches the apple of His eye. 9 For surely I will shake My hand against them, and they shall become spoil for their servants. Then you will know that the LORD of hosts has sent Me.

10 �Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion! For behold, I am coming and I will dwell in your midst,� says the LORD. 11 �Many nations shall be joined to the LORD in that day, and they shall become My people. And I will dwell in your midst. Then you will know that the LORD of hosts has sent Me to you. 12 And the LORD will take possession of Judah as His inheritance in the Holy Land, and will again choose Jerusalem.

13 Be silent, all flesh, before the LORD, for He is aroused from His holy habitation!�

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Posted : 27 Mar, 2011 11:10 AM

I agree with your post 100%, however I feel you seek the wrong solution to the problem. Even though I respect your desire to call Muslims to faith in Jesus, you must realize in the bigger picture there are spiritual forces at work. Before we look at a possible solution, let's look at the probable cause.

One need go no further than the Bible to see why this very thing has happened in the past between these very people groups. Time and time again God used the neighbors of Israel to discipline her. God even foretold this method of discipline to Israel.

I need to pause here so as not to be misinterpreted. The Jews are not special because they are some how a special race among mankind. What makes them special is God chose the Jews to reveal Himself to the world. Therefore the Jews are characteristic of all mankind, however being choosen by God for a purpose carries within it blessings and discipline in accordance with behavior.

So why is this all happening again? You can blame Muslims or even Satan and you would be right, however you would not be at the root cause of this problem. The root cause is by Israel rejecting Jesus as their King, they rejected God. Since then Israel had been a example to the world as to what happens when you reject God : You are given over to your enemies.

So what is the solution? To convert Muslims? Bind Satan? The Bible holds the answer: It is when the Jews mourn over the One they have pierced. It is when the Jews come to faith in Jesus. It is Israel that needs conversion, when this happens the bloodshed will end and God will prevail over the enemies of Israel.

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Posted : 27 Mar, 2011 11:22 AM

thank you brother for comment

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