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Is Jesus God?
Posted : 23 Mar, 2011 05:45 AM

Brothers,



Let�s try to answer to some questions today.

Niqabigirl said: � I DO NOT BELIEVE Jesus is God!!!!�

There is NO VERSES where JESUS said HE WAS GOD!

It is peoples understanding of scriptures and NOT the BOOK that is wrong! Jesus said He was the Messiah. God made Jesus both LORD and CHRIST."

Brothers, we ALL believe that Jesus is Messiah. But who is He? What was His Message? Was He God? How God could made Him a Lord? Can we meet God Jesus? Yes. We can see God in His words.

But the problem is that not all people can discern what God says. Many of us are able to read the Bible prophecies but NOT all of us want to believe in them.

Actually you do NOT want to believe in what God says!

We can spend a few years talking to you and SHOWING you the Bible prophecies about Jesus what He is God but you do NOT want to live as He says that�s why you reject His words we show you!

The problem is you do NOT want to conform your life to what you HEAR from God!

You prefer to adopt God to your life style which is sinful.

But God cannot be adopted.

He is the Supreme Being who CAME to us to TRANSFORM us by His power into the glorious image of His Son to PREPARE us and CHANGE us by His TRUTH to enable us to ENTER the Kingdom of Heaven.

God does not need in His Home- the Kingdom of Heaven- wicked people, liars, killers, suicide bombers, idol worshipers. Why? Because there is no idols to worship! God did not create a world for criminals! He needs HOLY, RIGHTEOUS people cleansed of our sins to PUT and PLANT us in His Kingdom to BRING Him FRUITS of Glory.

That�s why we SHOULD believe in what is written in the Bible.

Because there are WORDS of God aimed to change and transform us to be sons of God.

But what is the reason why we should trust biblical prophecies and words of God?

The main reason we can trust biblical prophecy is that it, like the rest of Scripture, was written by people and -literally �God-breathed��by the Creator of the universe.

How to understand the role of biblical prophecy? You need to read it, mediate on it and apply to your life. We can allow God�s prophecies to help shape our lives, giving us direction and guidance in serving our Lord. It should be a source of strength and instruction for us.

As we all know and believe we can boldly say that Jesus was a Messiah.

If you really BELIEVE that Jesus is our Messiah then you should know that God clearly gives the promise of a Messiah throughout the Hebrew Scriptures! That�s why ALL Jews believe in the coming of Messiah! They are waiting for Him and His faith Judaism is based on these messianic prophecies. The problem is they are UNABLE to discern where are these prophecies. They see how clearly God said about Jesus who is the Redeemer of the world and who accepts all our sins to make us forgiven of our sins (Isaiah 53) but Jews do not WANT to believe in them! Why? If God so clearly said that He should be killed and buried and He should bear our iniquities and sins on His holy Body?!

Because they have got used performing Jewish rituals and they do not want to change their lives. They have got used to wear the cover on their heads and they do not want to be FREE of this cover, separating them from the hostile world, which secures them a temporally isolation of what they are afraid. Brothers, God sent us Messiah to SET us FREE of our sins! God said it now me.

Look again at one of such messianic prophecy:



5 But He (Messiah) was wounded for our transgressions,

He was bruised for our iniquities;

The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,

And by His stripes we are healed.

6 All we like sheep have gone astray;

We have turned, every one, to his own way;

And the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.

7 He was oppressed and He was afflicted,

Yet He opened not His mouth;

He was led as a lamb to the slaughter,

And as a sheep before its shearers is silent,

So He opened not His mouth.

8 He was taken from prison and from judgment,

And who will declare His generation?

For He was cut off from the land of the living;

For the transgressions of My people He was stricken.

9 And they made His grave with the wicked�

But with the rich at His death,

Because He had done no violence,

Nor was any deceit in His mouth.

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When You make His soul an offering for sin,

He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days,

And the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His hand.

11 He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied.

By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many,

For He shall bear their iniquities.

12 Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great,

And He shall divide the spoil with the strong,

Because He poured out His soul unto death,

And He was numbered with the transgressors,

And He bore the sin of many,

And made intercession for the transgressors.



So, brothers, if God said that Messiah should be killed and should bear our iniquities to make us free of them then HOW God will divide Him a portion with the great,

And He shall divide the spoil with the strong?

God clearly said that the Messiah will be killed and will make us free of our sins and will have a WONDERFUL FUTURE.

Where will He live and divide the portion with the great?

In His Kingdom.

His Kingdom will be on earth during his Second Coming and in another world created for the believers in Him.

Bothers, there are many such messianic prophecies which were made hundreds, sometimes thousands of years before Jesus Christ was born.

But if these prophecies are written WHY you do not believe in them?

Because you do not want.

You do not want it because of your utmost ignorance and lack of education.

Even if you try to educate yourself you prefer to IGNORE the words of God!

You create your own god, your own rules and rituals and you put on your own cover to HIDE from the wrath of God and His Coming Judgment.

So, brothers, in the labyrinth of faiths and believes many people are travelling in so many different directions, including the many who are leaving Islam. Their endless wanderings reveal to us why: It is because they are a LOST people. They ALL are considered by God as unbelievers! They all are groping in the darkness, trying to find the Truth. But Messiah said that he is the TRUTH, the WAY and the LIFE. Why all people are unable to find this TRUTH?!

Why are you among them?!

So, we clearly see that ALL who do not believe in the Messiah and words of God about the Messiah and all who are NOT Redeemed by this Messiah are sinners, and they will die in their sins. Because only ONE Man TOOK the sin of the world as we have read it above in the prophecy of God.

So, you are one of them?!

In fact, from Genesis to the last book of the Old Testament there are over 300 specific prophecies detailing the coming of this Anointed One. In addition to prophecies detailing His virgin birth, His birth in Bethlehem, His birth from the tribe of Judah, His lineage from King David, His sinless life, His atoning work for the sins of His people, etc., the death and resurrection of the Jewish Messiah was, likewise, well documented in the Hebrew prophetic Scriptures long before the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ occurred in history.



Look what Jesus said:



�You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me� (John 5:39).



So, every aspect of the birth, life, death and resurrection of Jesus the Messiah had been prophesied in the Hebrew Scriptures long before the events ever unfolded in the timeline of human history. But the purpose of His Coming was SALVATION of His people from hell and death! WHY you are not saved by Him yet?

Why do you reject the holy words of God?

Why do you reject Jesus who is called the Word of God?

Why you are NOT a part of the SMALL REMNANT separated by God from the world to ENTER the Kingdom of God?

Why you are an unbeliever?



God Jesus said:

�I and the Father are one.�

John 10:30



Can I say that I and God is ONE?

Can I claim to be God?

Can I so boldly say such blasphemy against the nature of God?

No. I can say that God is in Me. But not that I am God!

But Jesus said it!

He claimed to be God!

He claimed to heal and resurrect people by HIS DIVINE Power which is the power of God!

That�s why He was killed. People could NOT accept and believe that He the Man was the Almighty God! Didn�t God the Father foretell us about this death in the prophecy we have studied with you now in Isaiah 53? YES!



Even people tried to stone Jesus for this very reason,

�� you, a mere man, claim to be God� (John 10:33).

When Jesus stated that �I and the Father are ONE�, He was saying that He and the Father are of one nature and essence.

How is it possible?

Jesus declared, �I tell you the truth, before Abraham was born, I am!�

Because He � Jesus- the Son of God created all stars, planets and people, all visible and invisible worlds. Jesus is the Word of God and �the Word was God� and �the Word became flesh�

(John 1:1, 14).

A created being, which Jesus would be if He were not God, could NOT pay the infinite penalty required for sin against an infinite God. But God the Father said that this MAN will save us of our sins! He should make an intercession to help us avoid the hell fire! Only God could pay such an infinite penalty. Only God could take on the sins of the world and die, and be resurrected, proving His victory over sin and death.



Now you have a short time before the Coming of this Messiah who is the Son of God to JUDGE you:

REPENT, CONFESS all your sins to God in a prayer. BELIEVE in God Jesus and YOU will be forgiven right now! There is no time left to live in your ignorance!

There is no time left to live in your own world created by you!

You should be ready for a GREAT ESCAPE from this planet to the Kingdom of God!

You should not perish but you need to INHERIT the Kingdom of your Father!

Do not cover your head anymore. But tear down your slavery and come out of it to the LIGHT of God. You are created to be a beautiful creature bringing the glory to your Father. You are not the one who was created to perish and disappear in your own world.

Make a step of FAITH and COME to Him who created this world for you and who suffers LONG waiting for your RETURN.

The purpose of LIFE is to FIND Him and COME to Him, bringing the GLORY of son to His loving Father.

1 John 2 (New King James Version)

1 John 2

1 My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. 2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.

The Test of Knowing Him



3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. 4 He who says, �I know Him,� and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. 6 He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.

7 Brethren, I write no new commandment to you, but an old commandment which you have had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which you heard from the beginning. 8 Again, a new commandment I write to you, which thing is true in Him and in you, because the darkness is passing away, and the true light is already shining.

9 He who says he is in the light, and hates his brother, is in darkness until now. 10 He who loves his brother abides in the light, and there is no cause for stumbling in him. 11 But he who hates his brother is in darkness and walks in darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes.

Their Spiritual State

12 I write to you, little children,

Because your sins are forgiven you for His name�s sake.

13 I write to you, fathers,

Because you have known Him who is from the beginning.

I write to you, young men,

Because you have overcome the wicked one.

I write to you, little children,

Because you have known the Father.

14 I have written to you, fathers,

Because you have known Him who is from the beginning.

I have written to you, young men,

Because you are strong, and the word of God abides in you,

And you have overcome the wicked one.

Do Not Love the World



15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world�the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life�is not of the Father but is of the world. 17 And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever.

Deceptions of the Last Hour



18 Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.

20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things. 21 I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. 23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

Let Truth Abide in You



24 Therefore let that abide in you which you heard from the beginning. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, you also will abide in the Son and in the Father. 25 And this is the promise that He has promised us�eternal life.

26 These things I have written to you concerning those who try to deceive you. 27 But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.

The Children of God



28 And now, little children, abide in Him, that when He appears, we may have confidence and not be ashamed before Him at His coming. 29 If you know that He is righteous, you know that everyone who practices righteousness is born of Him.

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Posted : 23 Mar, 2011 08:04 AM

Jesus is God, God is Jesus incarnated. Before God decided to come to earth to saveH is people, He declared to Joseph a name that would let us all know who He was in the flesh, and that name is Immanuel, which means "God with us." God Himself in the flesh. The gospel of John also lets us know that Jesus is God, and God is Jesus, and the both are the spoken Word. John chapter One (1)

good post!

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Posted : 23 Mar, 2011 10:15 AM

You are a interesting person. you stay right to the word and not some persons view point. Good job.

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Posted : 23 Mar, 2011 12:30 PM

Is Jesus God?

*** Yes !!! Just a few Scriptures....

Mat 22:32 [ I am ] the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

Mark 14:62 And Jesus said, [ I am: ] and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

John 13:13 Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for [so]" I am."

Rev 22:13 " I am" Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

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Posted : 24 Mar, 2011 05:57 AM

Thomas said my Lord and my God.

Titus 2 vs 13 : Looking for the blessed hope and appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.



Isa 9 vs 6 : Onto us a Child is born a Son is given, he shall be called Mighty God, Everlasting Father



Isa chpt 44 and 48- I am the First and the Last, besides Me there is no God.

Rev 1 vs 17 and 18 : I am the First and the Last.I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold ,I am alive forevermore.



Approximately 16 times in the New Testament people bow down and WORSHIP Jesus.

Matt 4 vs 10 : Then Jesus said to him, " Away with you, Satan! For it is written, You shalll worsip thte Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.

Rev 22 vs 8 and 9 : John bows to an angel and the angel says, " see that you do not do that", WORSHIP God.

Jesus never rebuked anyone for worshipping Him.

There is lots more scripture to back up Jesus being God.

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Posted : 24 Mar, 2011 11:17 AM

I think there are many verses in the bible that prove Jesus is God. Here are 2 verses out of the 1st chapter of the gospel of John. However there are many. You can cross reference these to find more.





The Gospel of John verses 1 & 14



1.) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.





14.) And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.



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Posted : 24 Mar, 2011 11:28 AM

Jesus did say He was God but not in the words, I am God. He said He was God�s Son, making Himself equal with God. God, can only equal God.





John - 5:18



Philippians - 2:6

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Posted : 24 Mar, 2011 11:39 AM

If you want to get into the old testament and dig. I mean study. Study the prophecies about the Christ using the Greek & Hebrew languages. You will find That all of the prophecies were fulfilled in Jesus. He is the Christ, also some talk about Him as God and as man, He was both. God the father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit are one. This will never be fully understood in our present state as human beings - perhaps when will are with Him ( Jesus ) in glory we will.

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Posted : 25 Mar, 2011 11:20 AM

Thank you brother.Great posts!

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