Sad that "many on this forum" were put down for not responding to a certain post. It isn't necessary to tell you how I would witness to a sinner. It's necessary that I do. __________ ____________________________ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live: yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh, I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. ______________Galatians 2:20
I was confused; the post said she was a sinner, witness to me. Well from all the new things I have learned, it didn't make sense : If she knew she was a sinner that means she must be elect and already born again, but just hasn't received Jesus yet, or was that received Calvinism yet? Well at any rate, there was no need to answer the post since God has willed her to be saved before the world was created, her or anybody else can resist the irresistible grace of God. She already felt bad enough realizing she is totally depraved, what if she got to thinking the limited atonement didn't apply to her and she wasn't elect, that would just be depressing and troublesome. To respond would be like trying to feed spiritual hunger with doubt.
Hmmm. To bad we couldn't tell her Jesus died for everyone. Now that would be Good News!
2sparrow and Chevy, what's SAD is that you both missed the whole spiritual point and focus of the topic.
And 2sparrow This has nothing to do with Calvin or anyone else. This has nothign to do with putting down anyone Chevy, sorry you are unable to even understand without taking everything somebody says personal which shows much about your own spritual steadfastness. I think taht's your problems you're so wrapped up if the foolishness of man's theology, you think eveything topic is about Calvin, and not Jesus.
Chevy, and 2sparrow Now if that is a put down to you then so be it! Check and balance yourselve and see why it is you must always take what I say or others says so personal, I wasn''t speaking directly to either one of you, but if what I said pricked your hearts, then I suppose it was meant for you!
My post was a answer to Chevy's post and James" recent posts, it really had nothing to do with your post. The reason I didn't respond to your post is you were asking for a formula to witness with and I don't use formulas, I let the Holy Spirit lead and try to stay out of the way. Formulas work for some, just not for me.
Jesus said HE was our example, and everything God wanted us to know is found in His manual, the bible. The apostles followed the things Jesus did and taught, and we have been instructed, exhorted, and commanded to follow the same.
Therefore, if you 2sparrow, and deborah are saying you don't follow any certain formular, or format and you are being led by the Holy Spirit when you witness to the lost. Then, this makes God into a lair as to how we are to properly witness to the lost, wouldn't it?. Because God has said in His word that the Holy Spirit will lead you into ALL truths according to what God has said, and not what you think or how you feel things should be done.
And we are taught to follow Jesus and the apostles as our examples. And God is a God of ORDER, and the Holy Spirit follows what God has said. So whose report is to be beleive?... your method of witnessing to the lost, or the proper way God says we are to witness to the lost?
So the problem as I see it, lies within disobedience as to how you both witness to others... or either God is a lair in how we are to witness to the lost, or you both are liars and don't really know how to witness to the lost about Jesus. Because YOUR ways of witnessing are not what God teaches, nor are they better than how God says we are to witness and how the apostles witnessed through the land to the lost.
Throughout the Gospels and the book of Acts, and even in Paul's writings, we see the GOSPEL about Jesus being taught and preached FIRST, then testimony, and on and on. Even the Great Commission commands believers to Go teach the gosple FIRST as a tesimony. Witnessing is a testimony abut Jesus Christ and what He has done in your personal life.
So maybe this is why there is no true witnessing to the lost, because you follow your own format and formular,and not the formular and format and proper way God has instructed and teaches us how to witness to the lost...
The Holy Spirit is not going to lead you in a lie contrary to what God teaches, so as it is written: let every man be a lair and God be true! So is it the Holy Spirit who leds you to witness God's way?... or is it your spirit that leads you the way you please.
And how many souls has the Holy Spirit led you to witness to effectively this week? And how many souls have you witnessed to using your method and format and or formular have you won this week?
The bible teaches that a person who wins souls is wise! And souls are won when there is obedience in following how God say we are to go about doing things, not leaning to our own ways and making up your own ways.
Oh, yeah... another thing I forgot. The Word is a seed. Therefore, the manual of instructions teaches us how to plant the seed in order to receive the harvest of good grops.
Planying a graden or even potting a plant has insurction of you expect a good havest from the garden, or a plant to live and grow beautifully.
Therefore, if you are witinessing according to YOUR own script and instuctions, and not following the instructions God has laid out in His manual for us to follow, maybe this is indictation that you have not planted the SEED OF THE WORD PROPERLY ACCORDING TO THE MANUAL.
Again, let every man be a lair, but God be true! Either you know the proper way to witness to the lost. OR you don't. I would think the latter to be true, since you depend on your own methods and formulars and format as to how you say you witiness to the lost. You're not following God's manual for planting the seed,which is the Word of God, in order to receive a great harvest of souls for the kingdom.That being said, have a great blessed day if the Lord on Sunday, the Lord's day in fellowship with other believers worshipping the Lord in spirit and in truth.
I have always shown you respect as a Christian woman. And you have disrespected and a attacked your fellow Christians. As I said "I don't use formulas, I let the Holy Spirit lead and try to stay out of the way. Formulas work for some, just not for me." So if formulas work for you, that is great, but don't attack those who are called by God to do things different than you. God witnesses to different people in different ways and uses different people to do it.
Yes God has used and uses me to win souls, however you ask for a specific number so that you can turn it into a competition and exalt one Christian over another? You accuse those who say they do their best to follow the Holy Spirit, you accuse them as liars, and making God a liar. ET, what planet are you from?..... your name must be wrong, cause you are from earth for sure, for this is typical worldly behavior and has no place in the Body of Christ.
I don't know if you don't understand or misunderstand and are just plain ignorant of what the Bible teaches. Perhaps you should take another look at the diverse ways the Gospel is presented by Jesus and later the apostles.
I you were just ignorant with a humble spirit, you would ask for further explanation of what others have written. However since you claim to already fully understand, I suspect you may be a combination of ignorance and arrogance.
I do not know for sure if you are ignorant or/and arrogant, but I do know for sure you are a quarrelsome women.
If by formula you mean a certain or set order or method in how one shares, I guess I can say I don't do formulas either. I don't think I've witnessed the same way with any two people. Each individual and circumstance is different, so you present the Gospel accordingly and as the Lord leads. As long as you are sharing the essentials of salvation, it doesn't matter which order you present them in.
