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God is ONE? Answer to Muslims
Posted : 17 Mar, 2011 10:05 AM

Brothers,



look what one of our Muslim brothers said:

�Yes, anyone who claim he is god irrespective of who he is, was, are,

must be put in a mental asylum.�

Why do we claim that the Son of God is God?

God is WAHID. Hua Baba Allah, Ruh Al Quds wa Ibn Allah.

But HOW can He be ONE?

Here is an answer to this question given by my brother Sazie Johnson:

One Muslim living in New York struggles with understanding the Holy Trinity.

He asked: �Is there a tree in one?�



My respond: Thank you for the question. First let me say there are many things that are a �Three in one�. Time is a �three in one�. It expresses itself in (1) past, (2) presence, and (3) future. Matter is a �three in one.� Matter embodies (1) solid, (2) liquid, and (3) gas. Atom is a �three in one�. It consists of (1) protons, (2) electrons, and (3) neutrons. In fact he United States Government is an example of a �three in one�. In a remote sense, the United States Government is a perfect example of the Holy Trinity. It is a one government that has within itself three separate and distinct branches of government: (1) Executive Branch of Government, (2) Legislature Branch of Government, and (3) Judicial Branch of Government.

These three separate and distinct branches of government have one source of influence: the United States Constitution which gives each branch the right to exist and to be active within the United States Government as an equal but separate influence (power) from the other two branches of government.

In other words, President Obama who is head of the Executive Branch of the United States Government has absolutely no power within both the Legislature Branch of the United States Government and the Judicial Branch of the United States Government. Outside of the United States President Obama has a large influence simply because he is the head of the United States� Branch of Government that deals with the relationship between the United States and other countries of the world. But within the United States boarders President Obama has little power � so little is his power that you almost feel sorry for him. His power is only over the people who serve within the Executive Branch of United States Government � the people who enforce the Laws of the United States.

Two months ago I was driving my car on a United States highway. I was speeding. It is against the Laws to drive over the speed limit in certain areas of the United States highways and streets. There are many signs posted on the highway and streets that warn people not to drive over the speed limit in these areas. I saw the signs and I ignored them, because I was in a hurry to get somewhere. A police car drove up behind me and stopped me. The police officer told me that I was breaking the law by speeding on the highway. I apologized and told him that I was in a hurry to get somewhere. He told me to wait in my car. He went back to his police car and brought me a ticket (paper) that cost me $175.00. He told me to take the paper to the courthouse, and to see a judge.

At that point the trinity of the United States Government was at work in my life. The warning signs posted on the highways not to speed came from a separate government within the United States called the �Legislature Branch of Government�. The police who stopped me work for a separate government within the United States Government called the �Executive Branch of Government�. The judge, who I was to go and stand before, works within a separate government within the United States Government called the �Judicial Branch of Government�. While these three separate and distinct branches of government affect my daily life in the United States, no one branch has more power than the other. Every day in the United States it is a political battle as each of these three separate governments continuously checks on the other so that one cannot assume more power than the other.

God and the United States Government have one thing in common � each is a spirit and each exists only in the spirit world. You cannot see God, and you cannot see the United States Government. You cannot touch them either. But you know they do exist because they affect your daily life if you do not obey them within their spheres of influence.

Note: The United States Government is a spirit because it only exists on paper and in the minds of men and women. Similarly God is a Spirit and lives in the minds and hearts of men and women. Demons are also spirits who lives in the spirit world. Jesus encountered a demon who could have spoken as trinity. Jesus asked the demon, �What is your name?� The demon answered, �My name is Legion, because we are many.� (Matthew 5:9) The demon spoke as one who has plurality within himself. Only in the spirit world can a �three or more become a one�.

Question: �In terms of the trinity how are God and the United States Government similar in the lives of men and women?�

Answer: First we must understand that both God and the United States Government are a �one spirit entity� with plurality within themselves. It is God the father who said, �Thou shall not steal� just as it is the Legislature Branch of the United States Government that said, �Do not speed on the highways.� It is God the Holy Spirit who reminds us of our wrongs against God just as it is the Executive Branch of the United States Government (police, law enforcer) who stopped me and told me that I was breaking the law by speeding. It is God the Word/Son who cleans us of my wrongs against God just as it is the Judicial Branch of the Unites States Government that sets me free from speeding on the highways.

Not many American citizens know that their government is a trinity, but each American citizen knows exactly where to go to clear up his crimes against the United States Government. He does not go the Executive Branch of the United States Government; and he does not go to the Legislature Branch of the United States Government. He goes straight to the Judicial Branch of the Unites States Government and stand before a judge in order to clear up his crimes against the United States Government. And when a judge within the Judicial Branch of the Unites States Government sets him free, he is free indeed. In the same way not too many Christians understand the Holy Trinity. But each Christian knows exactly where to go when he has sinned against God. He does not go to the God the Father, and he does not go to God the Holy Spirit. He goes straight to the Cross (God the Word/Son) who cleans him of his wrongs against God. And when God the Word/Son sets him free, he is free indeed.

Today in the United States we go to court, and we stand silently and humbly before a judge in order to hear the outcome of our crime against the Unites States Government. The day will come when we will go to court, and we will stand silently and humbly before a Judge in order to hear the outcome of our sins. At that time the Son of God will be the Judicial Wing of the Holy Trinity. He will be your Judge. Right now He is your Savior.





�If you confess with your mouth, �Jesus is Lord,� and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.�



(Romans 10:9)

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God is ONE? Answer to Muslims
Posted : 17 Mar, 2011 10:08 AM

Allah in Christianity









by Sazie Johnson







Space is big � very, very big.



It is a vast, ever-expending cosmos that stretches beyond the point of human conceivability. Space is mindboggling; it overwhelms the human thought as one considers earth is but a tiny dot in the enormous cosmic unknown.



One Muslim sent me a video which attempts to show the insignificance of our tiny earth in comparison to the thousands, and perhaps millions, of other worlds out there in space.



He asked,



�Do you really think the Creator of all these worlds, and many, many more unknown, will come to this earth � this tiny dot to die?�







That is a very good question. After watching the video and considering his question, I must admit for a moment I was about to re-think my position on the �Death of Christ�. But then there is a thing called �Love,� which is a divine characteristic of God. We must understand that God is �Love�. We read this in 1st John 4:8 where it states: �He that loves not, know not God; for God is love.�



We must also understand that God is subjected to �His Own Word�. In other words, God must obey and submit to whatever the �Word of God� says. In Proverbs 11:1 we reads, �A false balance (scale) is a disgrace to the LORD: but a just weight (scale) is his delight.�



What is a false balance? It is a scale or a measurement that tilts or leans toward one side. It is also a scale that measures inaccurately, and says to you: �This inaccurate measurement is for you � not for me.� Such a false scale is a disgrace to the LORD. Therefore; God must not subject Himself to a false scale, but rather to a just weight or a just balance that measures accurately. A just balance says, �This accurate measurement is for you as equally as it is for me.� And thus, God is subjected to �His Own Word,� which is an accurate measurement for Him and for us. To say a �Word� and not be accountable to those words is to stain (tarnish, soil) the holy reputation of God. Therefore; God must subject Himself to �His Own Word.�



What is the �Word of God� to which God must be subjected? John 15:13 is the �Word of God�. It says, �Greater love has no man than this � that a man lays down his life for his friends.� In other words, �No man has a greater love than the one who dies for his friends.� All through life we have seen or read about people who demonstrate this �Greater Love� by putting their lives in danger for the sake of others. We have heard of mothers who endured sufferings and hardships, even unto death, in order to save their daughters from harm. According to the Word of God, these mothers have demonstrated the �Greater Love�. A father may risk death and be killed for running into a burning building to save his family. He, too, demonstrates the �Greater Love�. Brothers and sisters are dying in hospital beds for donating their bloods and/or their body parts for family members. We have heard of soldiers on battlefields who knowingly ran into the lines of fire and took the bullets in order to save the lives their comrades. All of these brave and honorable people have demonstrated the �Greater Love� � they laid down their lives for their friends.



We are also told in Holy Scripture: �If a person knows how to do a good thing, and he does not do it, then it is accountable to him as a sin.� That puts God in a tight spot (jam), because He, Himself, knows how to do a good thing. If He knowingly is aware of how to do a good thing, and He does not do it, then it is accountable to Him as a sin. As you can see, it seems more difficult to be God, who knows how to do all good things, than to be man, who does not know how to do all good things. God must subject Himself to His Own Word. To do otherwise is to have abomination (a false scale) before God.



What do we know so far about God? We know three things: (1) God is �Love�; (2) we know God is subjected to His Own Word; and (3) we know God is compared by His Very Own Nature do good things since He, Himself, knows very much how to do good things. We must also add this: God cannot and must not be beaten or overtaken in a character that defines Him. What is the character that defines God? Love � �God is Love.� Therefore; no soldier, or mother, or father must defeat God at demonstrating love.



Let me also add that love cannot accept defeat. The day love accepts defeat is the day it is no longer called �love�, but justice. Love has two purposes: (1) to extend itself, and (2) to be received. Love, in its truest cause, cannot accept defeat. Thus God, who Himself is �Love� and who, Himself, is also subjected to His Own Word, cannot and must not allow another to overtake Him or to defeat Him in love. Since the greater demonstration of love is to lay down a life for another, the challenge is placed at the feet of God to demonstrate the greatest love; because in front of God is a just scale that says, �This measurement is for you as equally as it is for me.�



It is true that space is huge � very huge. The universe is vast and ever expending beyond the point of human conceivability. It is God who created space and all that is beyond; and yet it is demons (the enemies of God) who contest (challenge) space and all that is beyond. Now every squad foot of God�s huge space is a contested battlefield where the enemies of God are determined to beat or to overtake God at every turn. Even our tiny earth is a contested ground where God must defend His Characters and His Attributes. God cannot and must not a take second place in the very things that make Him to be God. God�s love for mankind cannot and must not accept defeat. God, contested by demons in every squad foot of space in the vast universe and beyond, and as men and women demonstrate the �Greater Love� by laying down their live for others, God, who knows how to do good things, must not only subject Himself to His Own Word, but He must also uphold His Very Own Character even as to die for the sins of only one man.



There is no other god known to man who subjects himself to his own words in order to uphold his own character like the Biblical God. We can therefore say, �There is no other god, but God.�



Earlier you noticed the Muslim, in his question, said, ��The Creator of all these worlds�died (on a tiny dot called earth).�



Let me explain the Holy Trinity in relationship to what he said. Christianity is monotheism � the study of one God. When we say God (singular), we mean the indivisible (un-divided) union of Father, Word of God, and Spirit of God. It is not the �God the Father� who died for the sins of men and women, nor is it �God the Spirit� who died for the sins of men and women. It was the �Word of God� /Kalimat-Ullah who clothed Himself in human flesh. It is He who dwelled among men, and it is he who died for the sins of men and women.



It is an accurate statement to say, �God died for the sins of men and women.�But it is accurate only in the Christian assertion (declaration) that �He who is of God died for the sins of men and women.� In other words, the Spirit called �God the Word� clothed Himself in a human flesh and died for the sins of men and women.



Question: Can a spirit cloth himself in a human flesh? The Quran has no problem with a spirit who cloths himself in human flesh and dwelling among men. We see a similar incident in the Quran where a spirit called Gabriel clothed himself in human flesh and visited the Virgin Mary. Quran 19:17 reads �So she (Mary) took a veil (to screen herself) from them; then We sent to her Our spirit, and there appeared to her a well-made man.�



According to that verse, this Gabriel existed in the very presence of Allah before assuming a human body; and he could have said the very words which Jesus said: �Verily, verily, I say unto you, before Abraham was, I am.� (John 8:58) In other words, �I existed before Abraham was born.� And so did Jesus. He existed with God before He was born.



Jesus speaks in John 8:24:



�I said unto you that you will die in your sin,



if you do not believe I am who I claim to be;



you will die in your sin.�



Summary: I want to tell you one important thing. It does not matter who you were BEFORE Jew or Pakistani lady, if you TURN to God then YOU BELIEVE in this God! So, our CHRISTIAN God is Jesus! That�s why we believe in this ONE Creator of the universe! If your past beliefs did not teach you about Him, then TURN your heart to Him and START complying your life with HIS statements! You should NOT change God to be �your own god� created by you! But you yourself SHOULD be TRANSFORMED and CHANGED by His Truth. That�s why if you do not agree with His statements that He is God, then you SHOULD agree with them, if you do NOT want to perish! So, we should not create our own God, but COMPLY with His TRUTH revealed to us about Him in His Holy Scripture! We should SUBMIT and COMMIT our hearts to Him because He �Jesus �Kalimat-Ullah-is the TRUTH, the LIFE and the ONLY Way to God the Father!



We even could not use this word Trinity! But we SHOULD accept and believe to the words of God said about Him. In many Scriptures we clearly see that Jesus/�Isa is God! If you do NOT accept that He is God, you do not accept God! It is so easy.



He called us to proclaim the TRUTH. During the Judgment Day it will be too late to start believing in Him! The Day of Salvation is today, no matter if you like it or not! Again, the Scripture said you are CONDEMNED by God already now if you do NOT believe that Isa is God! (John 3:16-21). I do not condemn you but God did it! Read about it in the verse mentioned by me above. Now you know the Truth and you have a chance to be born by God or not (it is YOUR choice). Why should you be born by God? Because God said that only BORN AGAIN or BORN by God people will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven! Be reconciled with God before His Judgment.



We all �Christians- believe that Jesus is God, the Creator of the universe, the Messiah, The Son of God and the King of Jews, Arabs and all nations. Who do not believe that He is God will be judged by God during the Judgment Day.

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