When we look at the apostles doctrine that specifically addresses how to be saved we see this central truth:
Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
10:19 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
10:12 � For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
Note five times the term he that believes or believeth and again in one of the greatest context of the bible
Jn 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Mr 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Joh 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Joh 6:35 And Je
sus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
Joh 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
Joh 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
Joh 12:44 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me.
Joh 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Jo 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
The simplicity of The gospel is in he that believeth on him.
Jesus Said
He that believeth on me shall have eternal life.
Some men say man can not believe.
So when Jesus said he was the truth, and all men where liars,
Oh I remember man said that is your interpretation
Jesus again said you (man) where to have no interpretation, but then again Jesus said walk in the light, as he is in the light.
Man said walk in my light, we have reformed it to be our light.
Jesus said he is not a respecter of persons.
Man said that only applys to the elect.
You know this Jesus and man deal are like day and night, oh I forgot he created all evil for his own good.
What in the world is this post doing on a bible forum???????
Good news you all Jesus is the son of God and he died for you, and we are here to tell you come on in for you are reconciled to God the father and you will receive the remission of sins, he that believeth Jesus is lord and sayeth it is saved!!
That is the good news you all
Mans word it is not good you all, when you listen to man,listen only to the word of God thru man.
That man you all is not telling the truth. the one that says man can not believe!!
You know, PhillipJohn I expected at LEAST one Scripture of Jesus saying WHO he died for.
Let me help you out.
Here is Jesus SAYING who he died for:
Just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for MANY (Matthew 20:28).
Notice, PhillipJohn, Jesus did not say He came to give his life for everyone who ever lived.
I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep....just as the Father knows me and I know the Father---and I lay down my life for THE SHEEP (John 10:11, 15).
Notice again PhillipJohn, Jesus is saying that he will die for THE SHEEP, and NOT everyone who ever lived.
Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for HIS FRIENDS (John 15:13).
Notice again PhillipJohn, Jesus is saying He is going to lay down His life for HIS FRIENDS.
Was Hitler a friend of Jesus, PhillipJohn?
Was Mao, or Stalin a friend of Jesus?
Okay PhillipJohn,
That is THREE verses where Jesus is speaking WHOM He died for.
"Many" "The Sheep" and "His friends".
Jesus NEVER said He came to die for everyone who ever lived.
James what you would like all to do is believe what you say is true in lieu of what Jesus said to do, that would be a good definition of insanity. If what Jesus said is not true, what you say can not be true either. one would have to be an idiot to believe that.
James it is obvious to me that when Jesus said he that believeth on me shall receive eternal life, that he Jesus knew who he had redeemed.
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He that believeth
Posted : 11 Mar, 2011 08:49 AM
When we look at the apostles doctrine that specifically addresses how to be saved we see this central truth:
Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
10:19 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
10:12 � For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
Note five times the term he that believes or believeth and again in one of the greatest context of the bible
Jn 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Mr 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Joh 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Joh 6:35 And Je
sus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
Joh 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
Joh 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
Joh 12:44 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me.
Joh 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Jo 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
The simplicity of The gospel is in he that believeth on him.
The TITLE of your post is "Jesus' version of who He died for."
You gave NO statements of Jesus talking about WHO He was going to lay down His life for, and I did.
Then you give a bunch of verses saying that who ever will believe in Jesus will be saved.
We both agree on that. You have this habit of refusing to discuss whatever issue is being discussed, and instead talking about something completely different.
James it is obvious to the believer, the answer is in the invitation Do you want me to believe Jesus was confused, he invited all that believe upon him into the family, he knows whose he redeemed and he said, well you know what he said.
One thing is for sure James faith does not make or agree with the senses.
James replies:
I have no idea what you mean by that.
I do wonder if Christians who believe Jesus died for everyone who ever lived, ask themselves about the people who are in Hell.
If Jesus died for everyone, then everyone's sins have been paid for, and there should be NO ONE in Hell.
As a matter of fact, if you believe that Jesus died for everyone, then I would expect you would end up being a universalist, and saying that God will save everyone who ever lived!
I mean if you demand that the "all" and "world" verses mean everyone who ever lived, then..........
